2016 Postmortem

Doctor_J

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121. You think it's smart to compare Mrs Clinton's decades of war mongering to a nomination fight?

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:29 PM

Jun 2016

Hundreds of thousands of people have actually died in the wars she's supported. You should be ashamed for comparing that to the primary campaign. But if you had any shame you wouldn't support her in the first place.

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All who have already called for Sanders to unite behind Clinton will have to regain my respect [View all] Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 OP

Got news for ya, when you make a wholesale indictment of HRC's supporters, we only want one thing tonyt53 Jun 2016 #1

Strongly worded ... and I totally agree with you. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #6

They're rapidly cycling from whining to attacking to demanding we cater to them. stevenleser Jun 2016 #41

Where is the demand, Steve? Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #49

Your words "will HAVE TO regain your respect". Yep, that is a demand. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #80

A demand insists that something be done Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #98

They have nothing but attack, derision, hypersensitiveness, libdem4life Jun 2016 #104

the singular view of the universe is staggering. 'WILL Have TO' is a challenge in the opening MariaThinks Jun 2016 #128

Calling it a challange is at least more accurate than calling it a demand Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #163

This message was self-deleted by its author 840high Jun 2016 #88

Look, Bernie is welcome to me to hang in as long as Hortensis Jun 2016 #148

You are a fine example of all that is wrong with the HRC team. I have never heard so much ciaobaby Jun 2016 #7

"Never Ever " "Pie in the Sky" thats their leader. bahrbearian Jun 2016 #24

it's a two way street. upaloopa Jun 2016 #106

Pretty sure I didn't "demand" anything - Peace, to you angry person. ciaobaby Jun 2016 #112

sure. whatever you say. unbelievable. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #129

Thanks - glad you agree. ciaobaby Jun 2016 #135

Yep. Another newbie DUer wanting longtermers to rateyes Jun 2016 #27

Oh for the day when 5 hides would get you tombstoned. rateyes Jun 2016 #29

and those tombstones were probably from bernie supporters trashing hillary and then MariaThinks Jun 2016 #131

You sound familiar. cui bono Jun 2016 #171

Seaman Obvious is obvious. n/t me b zola Jun 2016 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife Jun 2016 #125

This post is a perfect example of the point of the OP 2banon Jun 2016 #76

It sure is. Duval Jun 2016 #139

a recent poll says 57% of Sanders supporters will vote for Hillary. That leaves 43% that will not. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #127

I'll get right on that nt firebrand80 Jun 2016 #2

I will not be able to overcome my revulsion at Hillary's stances on the issues. djean111 Jun 2016 #3

+1! pinebox Jun 2016 #4

That you think ANY of us leftynyc Jun 2016 #5

I'm amazed that mature voters would decide to vote (or not-vote) on whether their "feelings" ... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #11

This? in response to the OP? Intelligent gif for a very serious subject libdem4life Jun 2016 #105

Not a very serious subject. I am not a gracious winner, I am an angry winner. upaloopa Jun 2016 #111

Trump is an angry winner too. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #157

No one is voting "their feelings". Duval Jun 2016 #140

Then welcome President Trump as your next president. glowing Jun 2016 #14

Yawn leftynyc Jun 2016 #18

Voting for Hillary is not voting in my interests. rateyes Jun 2016 #31

Then vote for donnie leftynyc Jun 2016 #37

I will vote in my interests. And I don't care that rateyes Jun 2016 #61

If you don't "care".. why are you even in this thread? 2banon Jun 2016 #81

LOL leftynyc Jun 2016 #87

Perhaps you should read the OP again. Duval Jun 2016 #143

Oh, I'm very much in agreement with the OP.. 2banon Jun 2016 #150

Careful about your assumptions Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #19

I'VE never said Bernie should drop out. leftynyc Jun 2016 #20

And I didn't say you did Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #26

That was nasty and uncalled for Madam Mossfern Jun 2016 #28

LOL leftynyc Jun 2016 #40

So you respond in kind Madam Mossfern Jun 2016 #46

No idea leftynyc Jun 2016 #47

Anyone who uses "fee fees" is likely to be congenitally incapable of knowing when they TheKentuckian Jun 2016 #70

That so many leftynyc Jun 2016 #71

I think it's great that you presume to know what's in my best interest. Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #30

^^This^^ rateyes Jun 2016 #33

Thank you for articulating this. nt LaydeeBug Jun 2016 #173

+1. VulgarPoet Jun 2016 #8

I think the divide is too big this time around & it's not her supporters pinebox Jun 2016 #9

Lets face it. Most of the hard core BSS were not redstateblues Jun 2016 #32

I don't know about that per say pinebox Jun 2016 #39

It will be a disaster for the Republicans redstateblues Jun 2016 #152

I voted for the Democrat in every election since 1980. rateyes Jun 2016 #43

We will win without you. What is keeping you from leaving now? redstateblues Jun 2016 #155

You may win the battle. We will win the war. rateyes Jun 2016 #159

Since Hillary agrees with the republicans on many key issues, while Sanders agrees with them Doctor_J Jun 2016 #132

Brady Bill? Your equivalence of Hillary and Trump is a big pant load redstateblues Jun 2016 #153

Bull puckies--and posting it a bazillion times does not make it any less bull puckies. merrily Jun 2016 #133

You know that is not true. Duval Jun 2016 #141

Because I'm tired of Bernie or Busters threatening to give the White House to the Republicans redstateblues Jun 2016 #154

I believe that any negotiations should probably take place between the candidates. Tal Vez Jun 2016 #10

Just because I trust my candidate doesn't mean I'm going to follow him if I think he's wrong pengu Jun 2016 #54

I will not make common cause with those who hate me. SwampG8r Jun 2016 #12

Losing is rough. Been there done that. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #13

Oh, the irony. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #15

Uh let's be honest here pinebox Jun 2016 #44

Hell, one of them linked to Stormfront a few months back QC Jun 2016 #89

Yeah I recall that pinebox Jun 2016 #93

And then she claimed that she had NO IDEA!!1!!! that it's a Nazi site. QC Jun 2016 #94

lol meanwhile their logos are all over the site pinebox Jun 2016 #96

plenty of bernie supporters won't vote for her Robbins Jun 2016 #72

Wow so much self-importance workinclasszero Jun 2016 #16

I'm sure you'll have no trouble with that Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #21

It's interesting that supporters of the anti-war candidate are not interested in peace and unity. LonePirate Jun 2016 #17

Are you suggesting I am not interested in peace and unity? Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #22

There's no contradiction pengu Jun 2016 #57

Dumbest post so far this month! Doctor_J Jun 2016 #119

You think it's dumb to shine a light on hatred and hypocrisy? LonePirate Jun 2016 #120

You think it's smart to compare Mrs Clinton's decades of war mongering to a nomination fight? Doctor_J Jun 2016 #121

Gotta love all the situational morality we're seeing nowadays! LonePirate Jun 2016 #122

What a load of shit. Phlem Jun 2016 #147

I guess leading by example on the issue of peace an unity is not in the cards. LonePirate Jun 2016 #149

+1 Spot on. Phlem Jun 2016 #146

That's some twisted peace of logic you've got there. Pun intended. :) Phlem Jun 2016 #145

The BoBs Tarc Jun 2016 #23

Great points and well said Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #25

I doubt that you were ever going to vote for the redstateblues Jun 2016 #38

I would've voted for Warren or O'Malley happily pengu Jun 2016 #58

that's the goal of machine politics: maximise voter investment, minimize voter involvement MisterP Jun 2016 #142

"We the people" is the same term the tea baggers, 3 percenters, and sovereign citizens use to make FSogol Jun 2016 #34

And they carry Ameican flags too Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #53

there is no changing the democratic party Robbins Jun 2016 #64

I heard some of them love puppies, too. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #66

I was probably addressing rhetoric more than puppies. FSogol Jun 2016 #86

It was a fairly absurd comment on rhetoric, a meaningless association. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #103

Have fun tomorrow, extremely pleasant and civil DUer. FSogol Jun 2016 #107

It's also the opening of the Preamble to the Constitution. QC Jun 2016 #91

Whoosh. FSogol Jun 2016 #97

So because of internet posters you might not vote MattP Jun 2016 #35

But I never said that , did I? Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #59

Just so you know...Bernie camp has not earned very much respect. Sheepshank Jun 2016 #36

Yep, and its getting worse. See my #41 above. nt stevenleser Jun 2016 #45

This. Bobbie Jo Jun 2016 #51

First off, I've never treated Hillary supporters that way Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #63

and as you may see all over DU, everything I have said is true and has come to pass. Sheepshank Jun 2016 #83

Have to leave the house now for awhile Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #99

I said nothig disrespectful about Hillary supporters Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #164

I'll work on it!!!! NCTraveler Jun 2016 #42

I'm really not a hard sell when folks are sincere Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #48

I love many Sanders supporter. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #50

I took both it and this as totally sincere Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #55

I've read your Journal. Keep your "respect," if that's what it looks like. nt BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #56

Fair enough. n/t Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #60

I've read your posts Trajan Jun 2016 #136

Enjoy your sad. I suspect it's going to last a while. nt BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #137

Another "you have to kiss my ass before I will help you" post. hack89 Jun 2016 #62

Not asking anyone to kiss my ass to get my support. rateyes Jun 2016 #65

But you are honest in your hate. I can respect that. hack89 Jun 2016 #68

You will be fighting me and the rest of us working rateyes Jun 2016 #74

That's fine - governments and parties need to be constantly pushed so they don't get complacent. hack89 Jun 2016 #78

I'm just 4 years behind you. And we are gonna do rateyes Jun 2016 #82

Another seeming case of either poor reading comprehension or attention deficit disorder Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #67

Hillary dropped out and conceded six weeks before the convention hack89 Jun 2016 #73

We can at least agree that she fought straight through California, right? Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #84

See my #41 above, it's worse than that. They are whining, attacking and demanding all at the stevenleser Jun 2016 #92

Excellent Post, Tom. Very Diplomatically put! :) 2banon Jun 2016 #69

You are so right felix_numinous Jun 2016 #75

Nice post but I have lost all respect for many of her supporters here and don't care what they do. Live and Learn Jun 2016 #77

.+1 840high Jun 2016 #90

So are you going to keep telling us that for another week. upaloopa Jun 2016 #113

I feel the same about your posts. Luckily, I won't have to see them soon. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #115

My energy will be focused on kicking Trumps orange ass. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #79

excellent OP, Tom shireen Jun 2016 #85

Will forward to Obama et al so they can calibrate their behavior this week accordingly BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #95

I'll put that on my 'to do list'.... comradebillyboy Jun 2016 #100

you lost mine bigtree Jun 2016 #101

He never said he refuses "to join with Democrats to defeat trump". Duval Jun 2016 #144

Sanders has already pledged himself to support the nominee. Orsino Jun 2016 #102

Me too. I'm not clear what point you are making Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #108

If Sanders endorses Clinton, would he lose your respect, too? n/t Orsino Jun 2016 #109

Of course not Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #110

It is not about us. But you. Are you wiiling to hand the WH to repugs. All yours to do. seabeyond Jun 2016 #114

There's something odd about the logic going on here frazzled Jun 2016 #116

She negotiated SOS... lmbradford Jun 2016 #161

No, I don't recall any terms frazzled Jun 2016 #170

this kind of nasty, insulting, nonsensical post is really beneath you geek tragedy Jun 2016 #117

Geek, if you actually care Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #168

That ship sailed months ago Doctor_J Jun 2016 #118

I'd allege the same as well were I irrational and could not support any statement I made... LanternWaste Jun 2016 #123

Speaking of irrationality, reply 17 in this thread compares people's views on the primary to Doctor_J Jun 2016 #130

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife Jun 2016 #124

Well, insofar as your respect matters to me, I'll do my best. MineralMan Jun 2016 #126

OP says "Not that my individual respect means a hill of beans to anyone" right there at the top. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #158

I take that as sincere Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #166

It's up to you MFM008 Jun 2016 #134

No thank you. Joe Nation Jun 2016 #138

I respect your right to do what you feel is best RandySF Jun 2016 #151

That's a bunch of self serving drama out of the campaign that revised the history of AIDS to serve Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #160

Well said. Enthusiast Jun 2016 #172

Well written.... WiffenPoof Jun 2016 #156

It's sure been interesting reading all of the replies Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #162

Your refusal to accept the truth of basic facts, and your poor choices are not my problem. baldguy Jun 2016 #165

Your refusal to actually read what I wrote is not my problem Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #167

They'll never achieve unity. HereSince1628 Jun 2016 #169

No one is begging or holding your hand. It's Hillary or Trump, not HRC or Tom Rinaldo LaydeeBug Jun 2016 #174

Another person who didn't actually read what I wrote n/t Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #175

I read it. It didn't *earn* my respect. nt LaydeeBug Jun 2016 #176

Nor does your lack of comment on any of its substance earn mine. n/t Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #177

See how tidy brevity can be? nt LaydeeBug Jun 2016 #178

Yup. That's how "Make America Great Again" gets accepted as a platform Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #179

Or how bloviating diatribes get defeated outright, like HRC nt LaydeeBug Jun 2016 #181

Really, just your title alone, the many times I have read. Gain your respect? Fuck that. seabeyond Jun 2016 #180

I was talking about a specific form of hypocracy Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #182

Tom, I called the negative, attacks and lies but don't think called for Sanders to get out. seabeyond Jun 2016 #183