2016 Postmortem

MariaThinks

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127. a recent poll says 57% of Sanders supporters will vote for Hillary. That leaves 43% that will not.

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:49 PM

Jun 2016

Some will vote for Trump, some will write a candidate in, and some will not vote.

I think its a safe bet we have good representation from each group on this board and are wasting our time reaching out with realistic arguments and olive branches.

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All who have already called for Sanders to unite behind Clinton will have to regain my respect [View all] Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 OP

Got news for ya, when you make a wholesale indictment of HRC's supporters, we only want one thing tonyt53 Jun 2016 #1

Strongly worded ... and I totally agree with you. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #6

They're rapidly cycling from whining to attacking to demanding we cater to them. stevenleser Jun 2016 #41

Where is the demand, Steve? Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #49

Your words "will HAVE TO regain your respect". Yep, that is a demand. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #80

A demand insists that something be done Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #98

They have nothing but attack, derision, hypersensitiveness, libdem4life Jun 2016 #104

the singular view of the universe is staggering. 'WILL Have TO' is a challenge in the opening MariaThinks Jun 2016 #128

Calling it a challange is at least more accurate than calling it a demand Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #163

This message was self-deleted by its author 840high Jun 2016 #88

Look, Bernie is welcome to me to hang in as long as Hortensis Jun 2016 #148

You are a fine example of all that is wrong with the HRC team. I have never heard so much ciaobaby Jun 2016 #7

"Never Ever " "Pie in the Sky" thats their leader. bahrbearian Jun 2016 #24

it's a two way street. upaloopa Jun 2016 #106

Pretty sure I didn't "demand" anything - Peace, to you angry person. ciaobaby Jun 2016 #112

sure. whatever you say. unbelievable. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #129

Thanks - glad you agree. ciaobaby Jun 2016 #135

Yep. Another newbie DUer wanting longtermers to rateyes Jun 2016 #27

Oh for the day when 5 hides would get you tombstoned. rateyes Jun 2016 #29

and those tombstones were probably from bernie supporters trashing hillary and then MariaThinks Jun 2016 #131

You sound familiar. cui bono Jun 2016 #171

Seaman Obvious is obvious. n/t me b zola Jun 2016 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife Jun 2016 #125

This post is a perfect example of the point of the OP 2banon Jun 2016 #76

It sure is. Duval Jun 2016 #139

a recent poll says 57% of Sanders supporters will vote for Hillary. That leaves 43% that will not. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #127

I'll get right on that nt firebrand80 Jun 2016 #2

I will not be able to overcome my revulsion at Hillary's stances on the issues. djean111 Jun 2016 #3

+1! pinebox Jun 2016 #4

That you think ANY of us leftynyc Jun 2016 #5

I'm amazed that mature voters would decide to vote (or not-vote) on whether their "feelings" ... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #11

This? in response to the OP? Intelligent gif for a very serious subject libdem4life Jun 2016 #105

Not a very serious subject. I am not a gracious winner, I am an angry winner. upaloopa Jun 2016 #111

Trump is an angry winner too. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #157

No one is voting "their feelings". Duval Jun 2016 #140

Then welcome President Trump as your next president. glowing Jun 2016 #14

Yawn leftynyc Jun 2016 #18

Voting for Hillary is not voting in my interests. rateyes Jun 2016 #31

Then vote for donnie leftynyc Jun 2016 #37

I will vote in my interests. And I don't care that rateyes Jun 2016 #61

If you don't "care".. why are you even in this thread? 2banon Jun 2016 #81

LOL leftynyc Jun 2016 #87

Perhaps you should read the OP again. Duval Jun 2016 #143

Oh, I'm very much in agreement with the OP.. 2banon Jun 2016 #150

Careful about your assumptions Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #19

I'VE never said Bernie should drop out. leftynyc Jun 2016 #20

And I didn't say you did Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #26

That was nasty and uncalled for Madam Mossfern Jun 2016 #28

LOL leftynyc Jun 2016 #40

So you respond in kind Madam Mossfern Jun 2016 #46

No idea leftynyc Jun 2016 #47

Anyone who uses "fee fees" is likely to be congenitally incapable of knowing when they TheKentuckian Jun 2016 #70

That so many leftynyc Jun 2016 #71

I think it's great that you presume to know what's in my best interest. Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #30

^^This^^ rateyes Jun 2016 #33

Thank you for articulating this. nt LaydeeBug Jun 2016 #173

+1. VulgarPoet Jun 2016 #8

I think the divide is too big this time around & it's not her supporters pinebox Jun 2016 #9

Lets face it. Most of the hard core BSS were not redstateblues Jun 2016 #32

I don't know about that per say pinebox Jun 2016 #39

It will be a disaster for the Republicans redstateblues Jun 2016 #152

I voted for the Democrat in every election since 1980. rateyes Jun 2016 #43

We will win without you. What is keeping you from leaving now? redstateblues Jun 2016 #155

You may win the battle. We will win the war. rateyes Jun 2016 #159

Since Hillary agrees with the republicans on many key issues, while Sanders agrees with them Doctor_J Jun 2016 #132

Brady Bill? Your equivalence of Hillary and Trump is a big pant load redstateblues Jun 2016 #153

Bull puckies--and posting it a bazillion times does not make it any less bull puckies. merrily Jun 2016 #133

You know that is not true. Duval Jun 2016 #141

Because I'm tired of Bernie or Busters threatening to give the White House to the Republicans redstateblues Jun 2016 #154

I believe that any negotiations should probably take place between the candidates. Tal Vez Jun 2016 #10

Just because I trust my candidate doesn't mean I'm going to follow him if I think he's wrong pengu Jun 2016 #54

I will not make common cause with those who hate me. SwampG8r Jun 2016 #12

Losing is rough. Been there done that. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #13

Oh, the irony. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #15

Uh let's be honest here pinebox Jun 2016 #44

Hell, one of them linked to Stormfront a few months back QC Jun 2016 #89

Yeah I recall that pinebox Jun 2016 #93

And then she claimed that she had NO IDEA!!1!!! that it's a Nazi site. QC Jun 2016 #94

lol meanwhile their logos are all over the site pinebox Jun 2016 #96

plenty of bernie supporters won't vote for her Robbins Jun 2016 #72

Wow so much self-importance workinclasszero Jun 2016 #16

I'm sure you'll have no trouble with that Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #21

It's interesting that supporters of the anti-war candidate are not interested in peace and unity. LonePirate Jun 2016 #17

Are you suggesting I am not interested in peace and unity? Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #22

There's no contradiction pengu Jun 2016 #57

Dumbest post so far this month! Doctor_J Jun 2016 #119

You think it's dumb to shine a light on hatred and hypocrisy? LonePirate Jun 2016 #120

You think it's smart to compare Mrs Clinton's decades of war mongering to a nomination fight? Doctor_J Jun 2016 #121

Gotta love all the situational morality we're seeing nowadays! LonePirate Jun 2016 #122

What a load of shit. Phlem Jun 2016 #147

I guess leading by example on the issue of peace an unity is not in the cards. LonePirate Jun 2016 #149

+1 Spot on. Phlem Jun 2016 #146

That's some twisted peace of logic you've got there. Pun intended. :) Phlem Jun 2016 #145

The BoBs Tarc Jun 2016 #23

Great points and well said Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #25

I doubt that you were ever going to vote for the redstateblues Jun 2016 #38

I would've voted for Warren or O'Malley happily pengu Jun 2016 #58

that's the goal of machine politics: maximise voter investment, minimize voter involvement MisterP Jun 2016 #142

"We the people" is the same term the tea baggers, 3 percenters, and sovereign citizens use to make FSogol Jun 2016 #34

And they carry Ameican flags too Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #53

there is no changing the democratic party Robbins Jun 2016 #64

I heard some of them love puppies, too. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #66

I was probably addressing rhetoric more than puppies. FSogol Jun 2016 #86

It was a fairly absurd comment on rhetoric, a meaningless association. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #103

Have fun tomorrow, extremely pleasant and civil DUer. FSogol Jun 2016 #107

It's also the opening of the Preamble to the Constitution. QC Jun 2016 #91

Whoosh. FSogol Jun 2016 #97

So because of internet posters you might not vote MattP Jun 2016 #35

But I never said that , did I? Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #59

Just so you know...Bernie camp has not earned very much respect. Sheepshank Jun 2016 #36

Yep, and its getting worse. See my #41 above. nt stevenleser Jun 2016 #45

This. Bobbie Jo Jun 2016 #51

First off, I've never treated Hillary supporters that way Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #63

and as you may see all over DU, everything I have said is true and has come to pass. Sheepshank Jun 2016 #83

Have to leave the house now for awhile Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #99

I said nothig disrespectful about Hillary supporters Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #164

I'll work on it!!!! NCTraveler Jun 2016 #42

I'm really not a hard sell when folks are sincere Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #48

I love many Sanders supporter. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #50

I took both it and this as totally sincere Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #55

I've read your Journal. Keep your "respect," if that's what it looks like. nt BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #56

Fair enough. n/t Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #60

I've read your posts Trajan Jun 2016 #136

Enjoy your sad. I suspect it's going to last a while. nt BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #137

Another "you have to kiss my ass before I will help you" post. hack89 Jun 2016 #62

Not asking anyone to kiss my ass to get my support. rateyes Jun 2016 #65

But you are honest in your hate. I can respect that. hack89 Jun 2016 #68

You will be fighting me and the rest of us working rateyes Jun 2016 #74

That's fine - governments and parties need to be constantly pushed so they don't get complacent. hack89 Jun 2016 #78

I'm just 4 years behind you. And we are gonna do rateyes Jun 2016 #82

Another seeming case of either poor reading comprehension or attention deficit disorder Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #67

Hillary dropped out and conceded six weeks before the convention hack89 Jun 2016 #73

We can at least agree that she fought straight through California, right? Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #84

See my #41 above, it's worse than that. They are whining, attacking and demanding all at the stevenleser Jun 2016 #92

Excellent Post, Tom. Very Diplomatically put! :) 2banon Jun 2016 #69

You are so right felix_numinous Jun 2016 #75

Nice post but I have lost all respect for many of her supporters here and don't care what they do. Live and Learn Jun 2016 #77

.+1 840high Jun 2016 #90

So are you going to keep telling us that for another week. upaloopa Jun 2016 #113

I feel the same about your posts. Luckily, I won't have to see them soon. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #115

My energy will be focused on kicking Trumps orange ass. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #79

excellent OP, Tom shireen Jun 2016 #85

Will forward to Obama et al so they can calibrate their behavior this week accordingly BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #95

I'll put that on my 'to do list'.... comradebillyboy Jun 2016 #100

you lost mine bigtree Jun 2016 #101

He never said he refuses "to join with Democrats to defeat trump". Duval Jun 2016 #144

Sanders has already pledged himself to support the nominee. Orsino Jun 2016 #102

Me too. I'm not clear what point you are making Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #108

If Sanders endorses Clinton, would he lose your respect, too? n/t Orsino Jun 2016 #109

Of course not Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #110

It is not about us. But you. Are you wiiling to hand the WH to repugs. All yours to do. seabeyond Jun 2016 #114

There's something odd about the logic going on here frazzled Jun 2016 #116

She negotiated SOS... lmbradford Jun 2016 #161

No, I don't recall any terms frazzled Jun 2016 #170

this kind of nasty, insulting, nonsensical post is really beneath you geek tragedy Jun 2016 #117

Geek, if you actually care Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #168

That ship sailed months ago Doctor_J Jun 2016 #118

I'd allege the same as well were I irrational and could not support any statement I made... LanternWaste Jun 2016 #123

Speaking of irrationality, reply 17 in this thread compares people's views on the primary to Doctor_J Jun 2016 #130

This message was self-deleted by its author artislife Jun 2016 #124

Well, insofar as your respect matters to me, I'll do my best. MineralMan Jun 2016 #126

OP says "Not that my individual respect means a hill of beans to anyone" right there at the top. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #158

I take that as sincere Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #166

It's up to you MFM008 Jun 2016 #134

No thank you. Joe Nation Jun 2016 #138

I respect your right to do what you feel is best RandySF Jun 2016 #151

That's a bunch of self serving drama out of the campaign that revised the history of AIDS to serve Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #160

Well said. Enthusiast Jun 2016 #172

Well written.... WiffenPoof Jun 2016 #156

It's sure been interesting reading all of the replies Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #162

Your refusal to accept the truth of basic facts, and your poor choices are not my problem. baldguy Jun 2016 #165

Your refusal to actually read what I wrote is not my problem Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #167

They'll never achieve unity. HereSince1628 Jun 2016 #169

No one is begging or holding your hand. It's Hillary or Trump, not HRC or Tom Rinaldo LaydeeBug Jun 2016 #174

Another person who didn't actually read what I wrote n/t Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #175

I read it. It didn't *earn* my respect. nt LaydeeBug Jun 2016 #176

Nor does your lack of comment on any of its substance earn mine. n/t Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #177

See how tidy brevity can be? nt LaydeeBug Jun 2016 #178

Yup. That's how "Make America Great Again" gets accepted as a platform Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #179

Or how bloviating diatribes get defeated outright, like HRC nt LaydeeBug Jun 2016 #181

Really, just your title alone, the many times I have read. Gain your respect? Fuck that. seabeyond Jun 2016 #180

I was talking about a specific form of hypocracy Tom Rinaldo Jun 2016 #182

Tom, I called the negative, attacks and lies but don't think called for Sanders to get out. seabeyond Jun 2016 #183