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rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
25. Especially the younger ones
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:56 PM
Jun 2016

I've been a college professor for 30 years almost. When I started a B was a good grade and students never argued about their grades. Now if I give a damn A minus, I'll get a pleading request to raise it to a straight up A; FSM forbid I give a B or a C. I admire the idealism of the students I teach these days, but they seem remarkably entitled and sure of themselves (as I am sure my generation did to our elders, but all is relative).

They literally seem incapable of accepting failure, which is admirable except when you objectively fail at something. Like a presidential primary campaign. Or a (lol) "revolution" fought on the terrain of a major party's presidential primary process.

If you want a revolution, start your own radical party and take to the streets. No one is stopping you. But if you want the apparatus of the existing social institutions like political parties and congress and the supreme court and mainstream media to bend to your will, you have to win an election first. Why Sanders and his supporters seem to think that the rest of the democratic party -- establishment AND base voters -- have to roll over for the white guy because (oligarchy, corruption, millennial superiority, or whatever) is unfathomable.

It has something to do with white privilege for sure, although it goes beyond that to a generational culture of instant gratification and a valorization of feelings over reason and facts.

When you base a campaign on outrage, it also behooves you to be sure that your outrage is as widely shared as your fellow travelers and you think it is when you sit around a seminar table or hang out with mostly like-minded folks (encouraged by both campus culture and the internet -- DU is a good example, even the Clinton supporters here represent the far liberal end of the Democratic party base and you'd think no Americans were actually conservative or republican or not particularly obsessed with income inequality or ending fracking or whatever you think is so important that we need a "revolution" to fix it).

It's this sense of white privilege and entitlement (minus the generational differences) that makes Sanders and Trump supporters similar -- a mightily outraged response to the discovery that the rest of the world doesn't necessarily see things the same way as they do or see their problems as the most important ones.

There's also a huge element of nostalgia that unites both Trump and Sanders campaigns --- a weirdly ahistorical view that there is some "golden age" we can return to with a wave of the hands by changing policies, whether that is the white suburban patriarchal fantasy of the Trump voters or the naive and simplistic invocation of "New Deal" or 1960s radical politics by Sanders supporters.

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When they were singing "We Shall Overcome" at the rally, it made my stomach turn. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife Jun 2016 #9
Probably ....Pete Seeger was a white privileged male, therefore no good Armstead Jun 2016 #57
About the post count I have come to expect. Full ignore. nt Snotcicles Jun 2016 #2
I'm the same way with the under-10k newbies as well. LanternWaste Jun 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife Jun 2016 #10
More Toxic Brockolli from the RW rag deadlybeast.com Zorra Jun 2016 #18
Do you think the author is evil? PepperHarlan Jun 2016 #31
Well Forrest Gump famously said Aerows Jun 2016 #38
I think it's dump to dismiss the views of POCs because he/she is not rooting for your team. PepperHarlan Jun 2016 #39
I suppose that you would know "dump" Aerows Jun 2016 #40
I don't know. Most people generally don't deliberately smear others Zorra Jun 2016 #43
Why do you say it's paranoid fantasy? PepperHarlan Jun 2016 #44
Results... Major Nikon Jun 2016 #53
Berta Caceres wasn't white MisterP Jun 2016 #3
One, keep on counting. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #8
Libyan children, Iraqi children.... artislife Jun 2016 #12
We came, we saw, he died Aerows Jun 2016 #37
Maybe they don't count the dead? They don't seem bothered by them. nt artislife Jun 2016 #47
Spot on rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #5
I thought it was an interesting perspective PepperHarlan Jun 2016 #7
Especially the younger ones rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #25
Very interesting. PepperHarlan Jun 2016 #28
they should get off your lawn, too. Still, for all your annoyance with their philosophical outlook Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #45
Actually the Trophy Turin_C3PO Jun 2016 #48
that's funny Fast Walker 52 Jun 2016 #42
some of what you say is true Turin_C3PO Jun 2016 #50
Interesting stuff. One other thing GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #55
Welcome aboard. Ignore their angry comments. Sometimes the truth hurts. politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #32
thank you very much, politicaljunkie41910 PepperHarlan Jun 2016 #33
BTW, I updated my post to included a link to my post yesterday. politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #35
How many times are you Brock-o-lites going to run this bullshit story? BillZBubb Jun 2016 #6
Sorry PepperHarlan Jun 2016 #13
Truly laughed. +1. Nt NCTraveler Jun 2016 #34
Until they run out of idiots to pay to post this kind of bullshit. litlbilly Jun 2016 #19
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #22
You're responding to yourself? PepperHarlan Jun 2016 #26
It's tough when you have lots of tabs open. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #61
Stop it! Just fucking stop it! nt longship Jun 2016 #11
Why should truth be stopped? tia uponit7771 Jun 2016 #14
First document the white entitlement of Bernie supporters and then we can have a conversation. nt longship Jun 2016 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #15
do you get your talking points directly from Brock? sure looks like it. oh, and btw, dont litlbilly Jun 2016 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #21
Another steaming groaner falls into the cesspit. n/t Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #17
Hillary's magazine, the daily beast, you know that right? again, dont answer me, i wont see it. litlbilly Jun 2016 #23
It's actually owned by IAC PepperHarlan Jun 2016 #24
There are few better examples of white privilege than the Clintons. phleshdef Jun 2016 #27
Before I put you on ignore, let me laugh at you. Maedhros Jun 2016 #29
I would just like to say Trajan Jun 2016 #30
Hope the author didn't get his socks wet ... GeorgeGist Jun 2016 #36
that's a serious misconception, as explained here Fast Walker 52 Jun 2016 #41
PepperHarlan—Welcome to ‘Democratic Underground’ (06.02.2016). Nice Hillary Clinton avatar, too. CobaltBlue Jun 2016 #46
have they circled back to this? TransitJohn Jun 2016 #49
yes, lol pengu Jun 2016 #52
Wait whut? What was Skinner saying in that post about racism? HereSince1628 Jun 2016 #51
Bye, Felicia. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #54
Okay you have to explain that to me.... Armstead Jun 2016 #59
It's a line from "Straight Outta Compton." Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #62
Uh, that's actually from the movie FRIDAY PepperHarlan Jun 2016 #64
Apcalc apcalc Jun 2016 #56
Reads to me like a racial version of "Get off My Lawn" Armstead Jun 2016 #58
Say the supporters of the most entitled person ever. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #60
The other day I saw a brockbro on Facebook throwing the "privilege" QC Jun 2016 #63
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