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2016 Postmortem

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Karmadillo

(9,253 posts)
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 10:39 PM Jun 2016

Bringing us together! Another neocon endorses Clinton, calling her “2016’s real conservative” [View all]

Holy crap. The list of right wingers hankering for Hillary is sickening. Read the article for more of the sad details, unless you're hoping to get to sleep tonight. Brief bios of those neocons who sense the presumptive Democratic nominee is one of them can be found here.

https://www.salon.com/2016/06/10/another_neocon_endorses_clinton_calling_her_2016s_real_conservative_and_the_candidate_of_the_status_quo/

FRIDAY, JUN 10, 2016 02:30 PM EDT
Another neocon endorses Clinton, calling her “2016’s real conservative” and “the candidate of the status quo”
Neocon James Kirchick joins a slew of right-wing pundits who support war hawk Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump
BEN NORTON

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“Clinton is the candidate of the status quo, something that conservatives, by definition, are supposed to uphold,” Kirchick writes.

“Hillary Clinton is the one person standing between America and the abyss,” he says, seeing her as a mealymouthed centrist candidate with “better conservative credentials” than the alternatives.

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Kirchick is a hawkish pundit and fellow at Foreign Policy Initiative, a neoconservative think tank where leading neocons Bill Kristol and Robert Kagan sit on the board of directors.

Kagan, who served as foreign policy adviser to Republican Sen. John McCain in his 2008 presidential campaign and has been described as “the neoconservative movement’s chief foreign policy theorist,” has also strongly come out in support of Clinton.

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She's a bit right to trump on a few things but still voting for her yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #1
Trump is not to the left of her on trade or on war oberliner Jun 2016 #15
I am not going to argue trade but he wants to bring jobs back from bad trade yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #17
No, he doesn't oberliner Jun 2016 #20
That's what he claims. Would he actually? Probably not. Zynx Jun 2016 #35
No he doesn't, but his supporters are stupid enough to think that's a meaningful thing to say Recursion Jun 2016 #49
he would leave that up to the experts on Fox to advise him swhisper1 Jun 2016 #31
No he wouldn't oberliner Jun 2016 #36
she has consistent positions? Voice for Peace Jun 2016 #44
Trump has no positions oberliner Jun 2016 #47
Trump is the realty show candidate, this generations American Idol star Matt_R Jun 2016 #51
^^this^^ Pharaoh Jun 2016 #63
that's the problem. Hillary will likely start a war, maybe even a World War. yurbud Jun 2016 #65
With Hillary's foreign policy record this not too surprising unfortunately... think Jun 2016 #2
It's great having Republicans defect to support Clinton Zorro Jun 2016 #3
Note that Robert Kagan's wife is Victoria Nuland. PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #4
Thank you for posting. /nt think Jun 2016 #5
I do, I do Glamrock Jun 2016 #16
Pssst... They're not defecting demwing Jun 2016 #23
sure while progressives and liberals aka democrats Voice for Peace Jun 2016 #45
Lots of progressive liberal Democrats will be voting for Clinton and her policies Zorro Jun 2016 #62
Is it time to say "I told you so" yet? Triana Jun 2016 #6
Don't forget: we have to stop bashing the presumptive nominee otherwise... chwaliszewski Jun 2016 #8
Gone to support Clinton, every one Zorro Jun 2016 #13
this indicated thusly, yes swhisper1 Jun 2016 #27
HRC does court progressives oberliner Jun 2016 #29
And she has hired a bunch of Bernie's operatives that he laid off. Hekate Jun 2016 #39
yes indeed in fact there was a Politico article by one of them azurnoir Jun 2016 #43
I don't recall Hillary courting any of these people. Arkana Jun 2016 #32
you are speaking to the brainwashed swhisper1 Jun 2016 #33
Just about time. I so look forward to saying "I told you so." jwirr Jun 2016 #71
Ben Norton wrote this article oberliner Jun 2016 #7
Are the quotes from the neocon pundit not accurate? Is that what you're claiming? think Jun 2016 #10
The spin is what is silly oberliner Jun 2016 #11
It's pretty obvious Hillary's foreign policy appeals to neocons. It's not a secret.... think Jun 2016 #14
Her not being dangerously unqualified like Trump appeals to most rational people oberliner Jun 2016 #18
No. Robert Kagan said he wouldn't support Cruz either. These are hard core neocons. Not just think Jun 2016 #19
Well that's good oberliner Jun 2016 #22
Hillary's no fly zone proposal in Syria ensures war with Russia Arazi Jun 2016 #37
No it doesn't oberliner Jun 2016 #40
Absolutely it does.Every foreign policy expert agrees on that Arazi Jun 2016 #41
No it doesn't oberliner Jun 2016 #42
40 years of cold war proves a nuke fest isn't necessary for complete devastation Arazi Jun 2016 #48
Ben Norton? lol TwilightZone Jun 2016 #9
It speaks more to Trump's narcissistic fascism than anything to do with Hillary Tarc Jun 2016 #12
Weren't Bernie supporters previously crowing about how Bernie had cross over appeal? Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #21
can't make up their minds bigtree Jun 2016 #30
Odd, isn't it? (nt) Recursion Jun 2016 #50
Bernie getting republicans to cross over = good, great, will build an unstoppable coalition...etc. workinclasszero Jun 2016 #66
This won't phase many of her supporters here... Barack_America Jun 2016 #24
Wasn't it Bernie who said he had crossover appeal? leftofcool Jun 2016 #57
Yeah, but his policies don't cross-over. Barack_America Jun 2016 #59
How many days? Where is colonel count? jack_krass Jun 2016 #25
“Clinton is the candidate of the status quo, something that conservatives, by definition, elleng Jun 2016 #26
it's a measure of how extremely bad Trump is bigtree Jun 2016 #28
If I was a conservative Republican, I'd be excited to vote for Hillary. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #34
I read that half of Sanders' supporters will vote for Trump rather than Hillary! I read it... Hekate Jun 2016 #38
OH HOGWASH this is just RW propaganda Voice for Peace Jun 2016 #46
Just a way to spark MFM008 Jun 2016 #52
Neocons just love them some fellow neocons. Kip Humphrey Jun 2016 #53
Will factual articles like this be banned on Thursday? Scuba Jun 2016 #54
Why would an article about somebody endorsing Clinton be banned? Warren Stupidity Jun 2016 #55
Why don't we just nominate George W.'s brother? John Poet Jun 2016 #56
And in the twofer, we would get W's "brother from another mother." Karmadillo Jun 2016 #61
"seeing her as a mealymouthed centrist candidate". Damning with faint praise. pampango Jun 2016 #58
I have noticed for months now ... coco77 Jun 2016 #60
Nicole Wallace is a Republican commentator brooklynite Jun 2016 #70
I know. coco77 Jun 2016 #72
If I were one, I would support her too. But I am not, so I won't. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #64
Hillary is the candidate of the war machine amborin Jun 2016 #67
GREAT! Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #68
tick, tick, tick... brooklynite Jun 2016 #69
ah, it seems like yesterday Bernie followers were gleeful over Republicans supporting Bernie wyldwolf Jun 2016 #73
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