2016 Postmortem

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22. That is not at all how primaries work, but thanks for the 11th-hour try

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The reason you want more people voting in your primaries is so you have a better.... [View all] Sivart Jun 2016 OP

state law determines whether primaries are open or closed, so it's a wash either way geek tragedy Jun 2016 #1

Every modern President who won election would disagree with you. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #2

Your scenario assumes the people who did not vote in the primary (and some of the people who did) djean111 Jun 2016 #21

I can just about GUARANTEE there will be a huge push NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #3

I sure hope so. CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #11

Exactly SirBrockington Jun 2016 #54

You guys sounds like republicans..... Sivart Jun 2016 #62

Exactly: closed primaries favor the status quo. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #20

It's easier to stand outside and throw rocks Eko Jun 2016 #64

I'm just not interested in Republicans fucking with our primaries. emulatorloo Jun 2016 #4

Yes, then a voter can vote in the primary they chose. Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #8

It needs to allow for same day registration AT THE VERY LEAST then. stillwaiting Jun 2016 #43

+1 SirBrockington Jun 2016 #48

no one complained in 2008. I wonder why? WhiteTara Jun 2016 #5

yes they did. there was also a huge fight over caucuses. Exilednight Jun 2016 #47

I've always believed in closed WhiteTara Jun 2016 #61

Yes they did. The Hillary folks complained a lot about open primaries democrattotheend Jun 2016 #52

One of the choices we make in life is to register to vote, a choice of being a Democrat is a choice. Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #6

What in the world does primary turnout have to do with winning the general? CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #7

That's possible. But you also can end up with candidates that don't reflect the values and policies YouDig Jun 2016 #9

Don't ya just love it when the votes get suppressed? nt Jack Bone Jun 2016 #10

Wouldn't having people actually join your party One of the 99 Jun 2016 #12

these candidates represent the parties - hence they should be chosen by the parties DrDan Jun 2016 #13

huh? nini Jun 2016 #14

If the argument included that Party membership should be restricted, then it may make sense... Sivart Jun 2016 #18

Here's the thing..... Sivart Jun 2016 #15

I'm not missing any point at all.....you guys are kidding yourselves party membership..... Sivart Jun 2016 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author djean111 Jun 2016 #17

Primary elections are paid for by TAX PAYERS! That said alone, they should all be open. B Calm Jun 2016 #19

This is exactly my point..... Sivart Jun 2016 #24

Polls are used for that purpose. Voting in a primary does not show how a general election will turn upaloopa Jun 2016 #30

Tax payers pay for many things that the payers disagree on. upaloopa Jun 2016 #31

But elections are not one of them! B Calm Jun 2016 #35

That is not at all how primaries work, but thanks for the 11th-hour try Tarc Jun 2016 #22

What do you mean specifically? Sivart Jun 2016 #23

You have to go to some effort to change party registration just to vote in a primary then change upaloopa Jun 2016 #27

Some effort...? Sivart Jun 2016 #39

So allowing Republicans to vote in our Primaries would be the best of all outcomes? brooklynite Jun 2016 #25

New York Had the Second-Lowest Voter Turnout So Far This Election Season w4rma Jun 2016 #28

They should have registered with the Democratic Party in the first place... brooklynite Jun 2016 #36

The Clintons and their New Democrats have shrank the Democratic Party since 1992. (nt) w4rma Jun 2016 #37

Wrong! Open primaries allow the other party to pick your worse candidate. upaloopa Jun 2016 #26

If they are not DEMOCRATS they don't get to choose the Dem nominee. oasis Jun 2016 #29

Open to Democrats... Mike Nelson Jun 2016 #32

Hillary is already ahead of Trump by 12 points workinclasszero Jun 2016 #33

Bloomber News Poll jamese777 Jun 2016 #40

I Like A Mixture jamese777 Jun 2016 #34

State Law jamese777 Jun 2016 #38

Chaotic system. You win some; you lose some. immoderate Jun 2016 #41

Is there ANY actual instance where.... Sivart Jun 2016 #42

We'll never really know jamese777 Jun 2016 #44

well, it seems pretty clear that... Sivart Jun 2016 #63

No-brainer is right. Adrahil Jun 2016 #45

What about independents??? Sivart Jun 2016 #50

If they want in say in the Democratic Party nominee, I welcome them joining the party. Adrahil Jun 2016 #53

But you dont have to join the party.....you just have to register as a Democrat. Sivart Jun 2016 #58

Registering is good enough for me. That is enough "joining" Adrahil Jun 2016 #60

I just think about operation chaos SirBrockington Jun 2016 #46

Opertation Chaos was a joke..... Sivart Jun 2016 #49

Caucuses are much worse than closed primaries. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #51

so why don't independent candidates do well ? JI7 Jun 2016 #55

Isnt it obvious? Sivart Jun 2016 #56

so party organization means much more when it comes to winning JI7 Jun 2016 #57

Yes, I believe it clearly does.....which has nothing to do with the OP Sivart Jun 2016 #59