2016 Postmortem

Agnosticsherbet

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161. Clinton won the votes of poor and middle class Democrats

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 12:46 PM

Jun 2016

Because she will make things better for everyone.

She needs a Congress to help because they set the legislative ed agenda.

Let's work together to elect one for her and us.

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Does Hillary Clinton need Sanders voters? [View all] ThinkCritically Jun 2016 OP

Are you a Hillary supporter? nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2016 #1

I am a Bernie supporter, but I will be voting for her in November. ThinkCritically Jun 2016 #2

I'll be voting for her too, though I had hoped for and supported Bernie. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2016 #3

I'm worried about the BoBs. ThinkCritically Jun 2016 #5

Genuine BoBs are going to vote for the non-establishment candidate no matter who it is. Most... ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2016 #6

and some don't live in swing states. Cobalt Violet Jun 2016 #38

And some have voted 3rd party before Pastiche423 Jun 2016 #98

they will go Johnson most likely swhisper1 Jun 2016 #102

Doubtful. If they vote third party it will be green Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #126

+10,000 nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #167

We're liberal, not libertarian. Do you even know the difference? Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #169

The way Trump is going, he's going to scare so many Republicans that it could be possible. I think kerry-is-my-prez Jun 2016 #53

I don't think you can categorize all independents with the BoBs brush Jun 2016 #62

And Republicans with even a smidgen of sense and sanity will vote against Trump. nt tblue37 Jun 2016 #173

Dem Party is shrinking fast. Depends. 75% of what? MaeScott Jun 2016 #69

true, I am leaving this party in July swhisper1 Jun 2016 #105

Don't be so disappointed a movement is building. It would have been nice if the Democratic Party Live and Learn Jun 2016 #168

I believe Bernie is the roots Go Vols Jun 2016 #170

It wasn't always this way and this place was a great respite during the Bush era. Live and Learn Jun 2016 #171

plenty of sanders supporters will vote for her. she will beat trump. Vattel Jun 2016 #4

She can do without the malcontents who have laundry lists of demands. oasis Jun 2016 #7

you just couldn't help yourself, could you? 2banon Jun 2016 #11

feel better? 840high Jun 2016 #118

Monday will be my "feel better" day, but thanks for asking. oasis Jun 2016 #119

So unnecessary. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #133

What's "unnecessary" is for the winner, Hillary, to think she has oasis Jun 2016 #141

Then Hillary will continue to divide the Democratic Party at her own peril. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #144

Real Democrats will support Hillary. She'll get Independents and oasis Jun 2016 #145

Obviously, malcontents can sit out - won't be me - but, why not minimize the risk of unnecessary malcontentism?! Surely, that makes the most sense. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #146

Bernie needs to start playing ball now. We won. He's the one oasis Jun 2016 #147

The primary is over. NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #8

That's not true. ThinkCritically Jun 2016 #15

There was no snark ... NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #17

I'm noticing that phrases like "this is an honest question" or "I'm just curious" are used ... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #44

Well said PJMcK Jun 2016 #52

So your answer is ... GeorgeGist Jun 2016 #75

This ^^^^ Evergreen Emerald Jun 2016 #82

I don't think she will lose 25% if Sanders chooses Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #9

The interesting thing is that we really don't know how many votes Clinton received in the primary. peace13 Jun 2016 #37

You should add also that we don't know how many votes Sanders received . . . brush Jun 2016 #63

LOL Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #106

What's with the LOL? Re-read my post. I'm with the nominee. brush Jun 2016 #114

Sorry, I jumped to conclusions. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #117

The state you're thinking of is Washington strategery blunder Jun 2016 #120

2states where Sanders won the caucaus and she won the primaries DLCWIdem Jun 2016 #124

Thank you. I completely forgot about Nebraska. brush Jun 2016 #136

She received over 15 million votes. We know that. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #87

Guess what, the ideas are out there now!!! glowing Jun 2016 #159

Clinton won the votes of poor and middle class Democrats Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #161

Did I say "Clinton", no, I said politicians... Who is in charge of Congress right now? glowing Jun 2016 #163

Congress controls Legislation. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #164

Only the ones that are going to vote for her anyway, which is the bulk of them. LLStarks Jun 2016 #104

Rabies swhisper1 Jun 2016 #107

she's already got most of them except hardcore and thos pesky millennials & Indies msongs Jun 2016 #10

pesky milennials DonCoquixote Jun 2016 #154

I honestly think that moderate Republicans will be voting for her as well .. she'll get my vote yes. YOHABLO Jun 2016 #12

Let's just hope.. Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #57

Keep on dreaming. Pastiche423 Jun 2016 #99

She already got about 60% of them just by winning the primary. So if you're waiting for someone to LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #13

TPTB will NEVER allow Trump to get near the Situation Room. 2banon Jun 2016 #14

Why do you think lancer78 Jun 2016 #149

He doesn't have any staff? wow! 2banon Jun 2016 #160

Mrs. Tur lancer78 Jun 2016 #162

She needs a majority, which I believe she already has. eastwestdem Jun 2016 #16

Only 6 states have more than 50% registered Dems pat_k Jun 2016 #18

Bernie doesn't have special appeal to independents except for those who usually pnwmom Jun 2016 #21

"with 75% of the democratic party" pat_k Jun 2016 #23

I disagree with the idea that Bernie or Bust people are 25% of the party. n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #24

The OP asks "without Sanders supporters" -- that means all of them. pat_k Jun 2016 #28

What might she do that would be a big f-u to all Sanders supporters? pnwmom Jun 2016 #29

Say what so many people seem to want her to say. pat_k Jun 2016 #30

She has been saying the opposite. She says she will work hard for them pnwmom Jun 2016 #32

So? I didn't say she would. pat_k Jun 2016 #34

self-delete pnwmom Jun 2016 #35

22% of Sanders supporters are planning to vote for Trump creeksneakers2 Jun 2016 #125

And back in '08 pat_k Jun 2016 #131

And yet Obama won handily. Actual Democrats end up voting for the nominee, strange as it seems. Hekate Jun 2016 #174

last poll said 20% wouldn't vote for her DLCWIdem Jun 2016 #140

That's less than '08 numbers for Hillary supporters. pat_k Jun 2016 #143

no, the 25% arent Busters, they just are anti Hillary, cant swallow that pill swhisper1 Jun 2016 #109

And that will change after the convention Pastiche423 Jun 2016 #100

By November she'll get enough of them to win. robbedvoter Jun 2016 #19

Are Sanders voters okay with a President Trump? pnwmom Jun 2016 #20

why would you think that? swhisper1 Jun 2016 #112

Because if enough of them withhold their votes from Trump's pnwmom Jun 2016 #121

oh, I see swhisper1 Jun 2016 #122

Don't know but it doesn't appear like it azurnoir Jun 2016 #22

Possibly Buzz cook Jun 2016 #25

Seems as Hillary and her campaign don't think so, they haven't shown much interest in Bernie voters One Black Sheep Jun 2016 #26

The Democratic party and the HRC campaign seem to need him less each day Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #27

Is it just a coincidence that 50% of registered voters feel their party no longer represents B Calm Jun 2016 #45

He didn't even get 50% of the voters. only part were dems and only 44 of the whole DLCWIdem Jun 2016 #128

It's no coincidence, because it's headed by blue dogs now MaeScott Jun 2016 #137

we should work together MFM008 Jun 2016 #31

She'll win in a landslide. Kentonio Jun 2016 #33

A good portion of her platform is... Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #56

They need her. The whole country does. pnwmom Jun 2016 #36

Are any of these things on Hillary's platform? Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #84

well, she did lip service but she also said in 7 yrs, or we "cant". I never heard policy tho swhisper1 Jun 2016 #116

Yes, they are, and have been from the start. Plus immigration reform within 100 hunder days lunamagica Jun 2016 #153

no, we will see if she enacts these things, meanwhile, the real needs are not being spoken about swhisper1 Jun 2016 #176

congress isnt going to do anything he wants, it would threaten their donors swhisper1 Jun 2016 #113

No, she doesn't. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #39

Does Trump pay well? Vinca Jun 2016 #40

It's what has been repeated here all to often. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #41

Hillary no, Democratic Party yes. B Calm Jun 2016 #42

A lot of her supporters seem to think so. hobbit709 Jun 2016 #43

If you don't see a problem with a President tRump or don't feel you need to stop it ... then yeah, SFnomad Jun 2016 #48

I see a problem with Trump. That's not the point. hobbit709 Jun 2016 #60

FFS, the BS cheerleaders have been acting like spoiled children around here ... SFnomad Jun 2016 #64

And Hillary supporters have been acting more like poor winners than even the Dallas Cowboys. hobbit709 Jun 2016 #65

You know, you're going to find out you're just as immaterial as the PUMAs were in 2008 SFnomad Jun 2016 #67

I've voted Democrat since I was first able to in 1972, no matter how hopeless the chances hobbit709 Jun 2016 #68

I'll just consider the source for that n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #73

I'm not giving you any singing lessons. hobbit709 Jun 2016 #74

Being that you're a One Note Charlie, I wouldn't expect you to n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #76

Unlike the continuous drone you put out. hobbit709 Jun 2016 #78

I'm sorry that you find hearing the truth "continuous droning" n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #79

Truth? From you? hobbit709 Jun 2016 #80

Yeah, that's what the truth looks like, sounds like you haven't heard the truth in a long while n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #90

Q.E.D. hobbit709 Jun 2016 #91

And you have a hidden post too ... do you have a point? SFnomad Jun 2016 #92

8 is a bit more than 1. hobbit709 Jun 2016 #93

And I explained why ... but whatever, you've revealed enough of yourself ... buh bye n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #94

it goes both ways DLCWIdem Jun 2016 #130

This is about Hillary NOT Trump ... Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #86

Basing your vote for Hillary on the actions of her supporters is the most stupid thing I've ever SFnomad Jun 2016 #89

I hope not because I doubt she will get the hard core Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #46

She's 12 points ahead of Trump. I'd say she already sufrommich Jun 2016 #47

She needs the sane, rational ones. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #49

Not to win, no. I do think she needs more of them to earn a mandate. MadBadger Jun 2016 #50

Oh FFS, now winning isn't enough, we have to have some "mandate" SFnomad Jun 2016 #54

You don't HAVE to have a mandate MadBadger Jun 2016 #55

A Democratic candidate could win with 80% of the vote and Republicans would still try to SFnomad Jun 2016 #58

It helps to win the Senate and the House and the larger the win the more likely... PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #103

The Bernie or Busters make up a small percentage of Sanders supporters. You can't judge by Trust Buster Jun 2016 #51

22% of Sanders voters are planning to vote for Trump creeksneakers2 Jun 2016 #127

And that should tell you everything you need to know about that 22%........LOL Trust Buster Jun 2016 #134

Some, but by no means all, of them. Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #59

ThinkCritically�Yes. CobaltBlue Jun 2016 #61

Yes, she'll need every vote she can get TDale313 Jun 2016 #66

I think most Sanders supporters will vote for our nominee. That's how politics works. Lil Missy Jun 2016 #70

The vast majority of Sanders supporters will vote for her. MineralMan Jun 2016 #71

That psyops just won't work this time. MaeScott Jun 2016 #138

:shrug: MineralMan Jun 2016 #139

She needs Democratic votes. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #72

Judging by the HRC supporters responses ... GeorgeGist Jun 2016 #77

Absolutely not! yourpaljoey Jun 2016 #81

It doesn't matter whether she needs them or not, kiva Jun 2016 #83

If she does she's in serious trouble. nt Smarmie Doofus Jun 2016 #85

With how many times they've said they don't? VulgarPoet Jun 2016 #88

+1 vintx Jun 2016 #96

Watch the convention and platform for a preliminary answer. Orsino Jun 2016 #95

Nah. HRC supporters here say they don't want us, they don't need us 2banon Jun 2016 #97

depends. If Trump is the opponent, yes she can, unless she puts her foot wrong swhisper1 Jun 2016 #101

Mrs. Clinton does need Senator Sanders supporters and she knows it! akbacchus_BC Jun 2016 #108

Answer" Hillary Clinton HAS Sanders voters. brooklynite Jun 2016 #110

She'll get enough of them. She's going to win in a landslide either way. Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #111

She either needs Bernie voters or conservatives to win DJ13 Jun 2016 #115

Your OP thread is contradictory DLCWIdem Jun 2016 #123

Do Sanders supporters need the Democratic nominee? lol. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #129

She will if the RNC scuttles trump and installs Kaisch... eom Purveyor Jun 2016 #132

I think at present there is more a reach for the Bush Republicans than for Sanders supporters. EndElectoral Jun 2016 #135

Yes, we need Sanders' supporters, just like Obama needed Hillary's supporters. Beacool Jun 2016 #142

Actually... ThinkCritically Jun 2016 #151

Hillary Clinton says that she's against the TPP. Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #152

I think the problem is... chwaliszewski Jun 2016 #155

"Frankly my dear... 99Forever Jun 2016 #148

Really, does it matter? frustrated_lefty Jun 2016 #150

we need ALL the voters....novemeber election MUST be a Crushing defeat of conservatives beachbum bob Jun 2016 #156

Trump is a ludicrous opponent AND the Johnson Weld ticket has about 10% of the right wing vote merrily Jun 2016 #157

It galls me to say so but probably not. Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #158

Put Senator Warren on the ticket Gothmog Jun 2016 #165

She needs most of those who voted for Obama. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #166

Many of us Sanders supporters will support the Dem nominee in November tblue37 Jun 2016 #172

I think she needs more than 75%, and I think she already has it. Adrahil Jun 2016 #175