2016 Postmortem

Haveadream

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10. It is never a waste of time to call out anyone who actively or passively supports Trump

Mon Jul 4, 2016, 10:08 AM

Jul 2016

Those who are not voicing their outrage and working to stop the real danger of Trump to millions of innocent people are either unaffected by it due to privilege, complicit or cowards. It isn't clear why anyone with progressive sensibilities would defend that or even feel an alliance with those who do. Where are the current rallies against Trump? Where are the marches? The only recent protests and demonstrations that are being mobilized by those on the left are against Hillary. Where are the protests and where is the outrage against Trump? The silence from the so-called far left progressives is deafening. This post is calling them out and they well need to be. Human and civil rights are at stake. The only group that is visibly and vocally challenging Trump right now is #BLM. We should never, ever be silent when the lives of the innocent are being threatened by a fascist and his hateful followers.

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The Privilege of Never Having to Say You'll Concede [View all] Haveadream Jul 2016 OP

K AND R! JaneyVee Jul 2016 #1

So very true cosmicone Jul 2016 #2

I don't think it's a matter of dislike for Bernie. More voters preferred Hillary. Arkansas Granny Jul 2016 #5

6 of one and half-a-dozen of the other cosmicone Jul 2016 #8

True, that's why there are only 8% of Sanders holdouts right now vs 40% Clinton hold out in 08... uponit7771 Jul 2016 #21

Yeah, that must explain it! AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #66

What exactly are you waiting for? bettyellen Jul 2016 #81

I'm just watching the show AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #90

This show? Haveadream Jul 2016 #111

hill enid602 Jul 2016 #80

Massive K & R. Thanks for posting. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #3

Erasing. I have no time to lose with this non-sense. Mass Jul 2016 #4

I disagree. I have seen many BS supporters threaten that they will be voting for Trump or not Squinch Jul 2016 #7

A kid I grew up with Trenzalore Jul 2016 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #102

Some of them Andy823 Jul 2016 #30

I really wonder if that is what is keeping him from endorsing her. They WILL throw him under the Squinch Jul 2016 #35

Could be Andy823 Jul 2016 #47

The problem is not with Sanders supporters. lapucelle Jul 2016 #9

Bingo! comradebillyboy Jul 2016 #48

It is never a waste of time to call out anyone who actively or passively supports Trump Haveadream Jul 2016 #10

And Alicia Garza, one of the founder of BLM, has clearly stated she will not vote Clinton (or Trump) Mass Jul 2016 #11

Garza doesn't have the influence Sanders does and we both know that uponit7771 Jul 2016 #18

That is her right Haveadream Jul 2016 #19

Kick! Who can deny this? Squinch Jul 2016 #6

K&R nt lillypaddle Jul 2016 #12

K&R sheshe2 Jul 2016 #13

K & R Scurrilous Jul 2016 #14

K&R! DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #15

Indeed MaggieD Jul 2016 #16

K & R in total agreement! justhanginon Jul 2016 #20

K&R FOR TRUTH! eom MohRokTah Jul 2016 #22

K&R brer cat Jul 2016 #23

He is really driving some people crazy. redwitch Jul 2016 #24

Many are disgusted and appalled by fauxgressives who sit idly by Haveadream Jul 2016 #25

Bernie Sanders is not a faux anything. nt redwitch Jul 2016 #26

Sanders is a faux democrat lapucelle Jul 2016 #29

He is a small d Democrat AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #59

Sanders is a socialist. He calls himself a socialist. Sanders defines himself as a socialist. seabeyond Jul 2016 #64

You can be a socialist and a Democrat. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #86

This ... BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #105

Condescending as hell. Especially as the man sat on the side lines for two and half decades while seabeyond Jul 2016 #108

I think it's clear he sees himself as more important than the Democratic cause. CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #27

K & R athena Jul 2016 #28

Many here have talked about how his supporters have gone to Clinton faster than Clinton supporters Chathamization Jul 2016 #31

The current results are that Trump has a chance of winning Haveadream Jul 2016 #34

Anyone who dismisses an effective strategy because they feel personally offended by it probably Chathamization Jul 2016 #36

Because victory is not assured so a more effective strategy is required. Haveadream Jul 2016 #43

It's already a more effective strategy than the one tried in '08. And that was the strategy used as Chathamization Jul 2016 #50

Comparisons to '08 do not address the danger posed by Trump Haveadream Jul 2016 #57

And yet in April/May the question was whether Sanders would be able to do as well as Clinton '08 Chathamization Jul 2016 #61

Keep pushing his supporters away. MelissaB Jul 2016 #32

Those who care about protecting those most at risk Haveadream Jul 2016 #39

There is NO excuse for the continued attacks on Bernie on this website. MelissaB Jul 2016 #44

Melissa, there is no excuse Sanders refusal to endorse, hand Clinton her win, attack/insult Dems. seabeyond Jul 2016 #46

Yes there is, not an excuse, but a good reason. rateyes Jul 2016 #104

I'm aDemocrat, and served in Bill's administration and now work Exilednight Jul 2016 #107

One of this website's purposes is to elect Democrats. missingthebigdog Jul 2016 #78

+1! eom BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #106

Well I see a lot of attacks by Bernie supporters Whimsey Jul 2016 #85

Even temper! melman Jul 2016 #100

I am so over the "stop pushing Bernie's supporters away" whining as if you are all delicate flowers EffieBlack Jul 2016 #65

For realz... giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #76

You said it Hekate Jul 2016 #98

+++ Starry Messenger Jul 2016 #117

Why would they allow that to happen to themselves treestar Jul 2016 #109

I no longer want Sanders endorsement. A couple weeks ago 81% already with Clinton. His endorsement seabeyond Jul 2016 #33

You will probably get your wish. Bernie comradebillyboy Jul 2016 #51

I truly hope. At best it would be luke warm, probably more insults. Why? No thank you. Nt seabeyond Jul 2016 #60

I think you see a little better why I was so patient over the last two months. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #68

So Hillary isn't strong enough to beat Trump w/o Bernie conceding right now? jalan48 Jul 2016 #37

No Hillary is doing just fine against Trump comradebillyboy Jul 2016 #53

The privilege of being a US citizen with constitutional rights. PowerToThePeople Jul 2016 #38

Many people in the US do not enjoy constitutional or equal rights or protection under the law Haveadream Jul 2016 #40

I agree with you. PowerToThePeople Jul 2016 #42

Another big K&R! NastyRiffraff Jul 2016 #41

^ THIS!^ Haveadream Jul 2016 #49

Thank you for saying what needed to be said. comradebillyboy Jul 2016 #45

He's not undermining HRC. Bernie's is fortifying the party. aikoaiko Jul 2016 #52

He is no longer capable of undermining, hence not needing his endorsement. That has been the shift, seabeyond Jul 2016 #62

Yes, Sanders supporters do support the party's nominee -- but that may be due, in part, aikoaiko Jul 2016 #73

Bernie's goal of fighting for economic progress is not the issue. Haveadream Jul 2016 #67

I disagree. In organizational life a little organizational conflict is a good thing. aikoaiko Jul 2016 #69

Ignoring the possibility of electing a fascist as leader of the free world Haveadream Jul 2016 #70

Please continue the beatings until morale improves! John Poet Jul 2016 #54

No. We refuse to continually be insulted. All of us. All Dems that did not support Sanders. seabeyond Jul 2016 #63

What effin ever. apcalc Jul 2016 #55

Yet ANOTHER big K&R! calimary Jul 2016 #56

Moving the party to the left does not 'undermine' her AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #58

Lauren Rankin Vattel Jul 2016 #71

Vattel�Lauren Rankin is a fool! CobaltBlue Jul 2016 #88

So agree, but as someone who was always suspicious of Sanders motives, I like that he has stayed eastwestdem Jul 2016 #72

Bernie Sanders has said that he can't snap his fingers and Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #74

I guess some have a higer priorities than ensuring a Democrat occupies the White House... CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #75

It's enough for now that he says he'll vote for her. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #87

It's too late for him to endorse Hillary now or after the convention CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #91

Don't even imply Bernie would go third-party. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #92

I meant to imply nothing of the sort CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #94

K&R - Very well said! CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #77

I'm convinced pandorah34 Jul 2016 #79

The total numbers of DU users is much to small to affect the election CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #93

And the lurkers? pandorah34 Jul 2016 #115

How many Sanders supporters do you figure are on DU CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #120

Spot on nolawarlock Jul 2016 #82

Mahalo for this, Haveadream! Cha Jul 2016 #83

Mahalo, Cha! Haveadream Jul 2016 #116

:) Cha Jul 2016 #119

It doesn't undermine HRC for Bernie to keep his promise to carry on until the convention Ken Burch Jul 2016 #84

+1,000!!! You sure hit the nail on the head! AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #89

Sanders can do as he pleases, it won't effect the outcome of the election ram2008 Jul 2016 #95

Dismissing minority and at-risk people's concerns as "unnecessary whiny hyperbole" Haveadream Jul 2016 #112

I'm a minority ram2008 Jul 2016 #113

The vast majority disagree Haveadream Jul 2016 #118

Those issues are a priority ram2008 Jul 2016 #123

It's enough that he'll concede at Philly. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #96

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #97

KnR Hekate Jul 2016 #99

K&R! LuvLoogie Jul 2016 #101

wa wa wa whirlygigspin Jul 2016 #103

Now it is time for you to say something as intellegent.... CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #110

DU needs a separate forum dedicated to Bernie Sanders hate. Vinca Jul 2016 #114

agree. n/t FourScore Jul 2016 #122

It's completely over the top melman Jul 2016 #124

I can just imagine the outrage if Hillary had behaved like this in 2008. Beacool Jul 2016 #121