2016 Postmortem

joshcryer

(62,534 posts)

1. Joe Biden was caught plagiarizing (a very long time ago) and Trump used it to attack him.

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 04:56 AM

Jul 2016

Republican frontrunner Donald Trump said he would "do great" in a hypothetical matchup with Vice President Joe Biden in part because of the prospective candidate's plagiarism in law school.

"I think I'd matchup great. I'm a job producer. I've had a great record, I haven't been involved in plagiarism. I think I would match up very well against him," Trump told conservative talk show host Hugh Hewitt on Wednesday night.

Biden admitted to plagiarizing while in law school as well as lifting from writings by British politician Neil Kinnock while on the campaign trail -- and it became an issue that haunted his failed 1988 presidential bid.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/13/politics/donald-trump-joe-biden-plagiarism/

Nobody's perfect and I actually am willing to take Melania at her word, and that she just mixed her notes (copy pasted speeches to go by) and her own writing. It can happen.

We'll see how they spin it, however. Still looks bad on Trump's campaign because even if she did write it herself, and mess up and put in some other persons speech, it should've been vetted and looked over by the campaign. It shows utter incompetence on the campaign's behalf.

They deserve everything that's coming tomorrow.

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The hypocrisy of MSBNC re: the Melania Trump plagiarism. [View all] merrily Jul 2016 OP

Joe Biden was caught plagiarizing (a very long time ago) and Trump used it to attack him. joshcryer Jul 2016 #1

I didn't know Melania had issued a statement on this? merrily Jul 2016 #5

I am anticipating as well. joshcryer Jul 2016 #7

So, Melania has said nothing yet and the following was just you anticipating what she would say: merrily Jul 2016 #9

The campaign has doubled down. joshcryer Jul 2016 #34

Melania spoke to Matt Laurer prior to giving her speech and said that she had written it. Sheepshank Jul 2016 #42

Please see Reply 59. merrily Jul 2016 #58

I was replying to your statement that Melania has said nothing (post #9) Sheepshank Jul 2016 #62

The attack on him was shown to have been plagerized... scscholar Jul 2016 #29

Huh? Biden admitted his faults. joshcryer Jul 2016 #35

Honestly I don't care. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #2

You can bet one thing, the frenzy would be different if Hillary or Bill did this. nt glennward Jul 2016 #3

? There has been A LOT of frenzy about the plagiarism on MSNBC, both last night and this morning. merrily Jul 2016 #6

Lawl joshcryer Jul 2016 #8

The MSNBC panel talked about it non stop last night and the Morning Joe panel is doing the same. merrily Jul 2016 #10

Not even her entire speech? kcr Jul 2016 #28

Take a step back. joshcryer Jul 2016 #36

Keith Olbermann might have a few choice words. + Tim Russert, R.I.P. vegetarian x Jul 2016 #21

There's something very off about Trump SticksnStones Jul 2016 #4

I am not compariing pundits with Presidential candidates. merrily Jul 2016 #12

Fair enough then SticksnStones Jul 2016 #16

It is actually pretty tricky to avoid copying someone else. bemildred Jul 2016 #11

why? Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #26

It won't move the political needle a bit is why. bemildred Jul 2016 #32

completely agree that this one item will not move the needle Sheepshank Jul 2016 #43

Something which may, in the future, move the needle hardly seems like a fact. bemildred Jul 2016 #44

so ignore any and all negative single events because by themselves they don't move the needle? Sheepshank Jul 2016 #46

No ignore ones that won't do any good. Take the high road. nt bemildred Jul 2016 #47

so you "know" this won't do any good? really, you "know"? Sheepshank Jul 2016 #48

Have a nice day. nt bemildred Jul 2016 #50

I disagree Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #63

He has been up there blathering for quite a while now, and it has not been good for our side. nt bemildred Jul 2016 #65

I'd agree, if there was a speechwriter in common. joshcryer Jul 2016 #37

You think it's not tricky to avoid copying someone when writing a speech full of political cliches? bemildred Jul 2016 #41

Um... no. It's actually quite simple to avoid copying others. You do it by not copying others. Squinch Jul 2016 #52

I saw a statement that said the words were personal to her greymattermom Jul 2016 #13

It may mean that a campaign spokesperson was throwing Melania under the bus. merrily Jul 2016 #14

party activists will throw themselves under the bus geek tragedy Jul 2016 #15

I'm not getting how your post relates to someone in Trump's campaign possibly throwing merrily Jul 2016 #18

the point is that they are covering their own asses and putting blame on Trump and even geek tragedy Jul 2016 #19

Thanks. People working for a campaign usually want to keep merrily Jul 2016 #20

They usually want their candidate to win, above all other things. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #23

A Duer suggested this could have been intentional sabotage. merrily Jul 2016 #24

the plagiarism was so obvious it was almost like they wanted to get caught geek tragedy Jul 2016 #25

Weeeellll, she said a few words similar to a few words in Astley's one hit. merrily Jul 2016 #30

Not rickrolling? joshcryer Jul 2016 #38

Please look at the link I provided in the post to which you are replying. Thanks. merrily Jul 2016 #61

Glad to hear it. nt Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #27

It's a possibility, not a certainty. merrily Jul 2016 #31

I mean that that the story is being covered. NT Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #64

There is no hypocrisy there at all oberliner Jul 2016 #17

I think a major network news anchor making up stuff is just as embarrassing as plagiarism. Same for merrily Jul 2016 #22

Did you accidentally post this on DU instead of the other "progressive" site cosmicone Jul 2016 #33

Probably. joshcryer Jul 2016 #39

Ding ding ding rbrnmw Jul 2016 #40

Please read the OP past the title. merrily Jul 2016 #60

The problem with your theory is that Melania is totally responsible for this fiasco CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #45

? The Op says Trump and Melania are responsible, whether or not a speechwriter was involved. merrily Jul 2016 #57

Either she plagiarized or she LIED TexasBushwhacker Jul 2016 #49

Nope, it wasn't a speechwriter CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #51

So you think saying that she wrote with very little help TexasBushwhacker Jul 2016 #53

Wrong, she lied and plagiarized CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #55

With a little help. However, my OP says the buck stops with her and Trump, no matter what. merrily Jul 2016 #59

The indicaters of doubling down tirebiter Jul 2016 #54

Oh, BS! CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #56