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CajunBlazer

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14. Wasn't it Bernie that started the "corrupt corporate serving Hillary" theme?
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 12:52 PM
Dec 2016

Wasn't it Sanders who went around to college campuses stoking the hopes of young people with government give aways that he could have never provided. Wasn't it Sanders supporters who first chanted "lock her up!" Wasn't Sanders supporters on DU who accused Hilary of everything in the book? Wasn't it Sander's supporters who stalked Hillary supporters here on DU and voted to remove their posts if they said anything untoward about Saint Bernie.

Surely, you shouldn't have any trouble figuring out why young voters might have had trouble voting for Hillary after swallowing Sanders' depiction of "Evil Hillary" hook, line and sinker. Surely you can see why in the minds of unsophisticated young people who were pissed off that St. Bernie didn't win the nomination, anyone including Johnson, would be better than Hillary.

What we will never know is how many young people, disappointed by Sanders' loss, no longer excited about the election, and convinced by Sander's rhetoric that Trump and Hillary were "equally poor choices", simply didn't bother to vote. The statistic coming from the election indicate that many young people fit that description.

What I won't forgive Bernie Sanders for is prioritizing his REVOLUTION over the needs of the Democratic Party and the welfare of the the American Party.
Just think if Sanders had not run and would have not spent all of that time trying to tear down the future Democratic nominee.

Just remember that even if Sanders believes that he was partially responsible for Hillary's loss (and I am sure he has rationalize that he was not), he still would be happy that he ran because he now believes that his REVOLUTION has a chance. Nothing is more important to Bernie than his REVOLUTION.

In my mind his REVOLUTION be damned.

A friend of mine's daughter is one of those Bernie millennials, she voted for Johnson doc03 Dec 2016 #1
She never voted for Bernie for the right reasons, if somehow she was able to trade-up for Johnson. JCanete Dec 2016 #2
It was "cool" to vote for Johnson woolldog Dec 2016 #8
well then they didn't know what anti-establishment was. nt JCanete Dec 2016 #21
Yes but the reason she never voted for Hillary was some of the retoric doc03 Dec 2016 #12
which applies double or more so to the republican party and most pro-corporate politicians. JCanete Dec 2016 #23
There are no guarantees for 'never happened" scenarios CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #32
Your version of selfish is not mine. Being a part of the democratic process by running for election JCanete Dec 2016 #33
Oh, I forgot. Only ultra progressives are never selfish CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #35
I'm sorry, what just happened there? You got that from my post in which I suggested that JCanete Dec 2016 #36
Perhaps, I misread your intentions and you misread mine CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #37
tbh if he hadn't run I think that would have depressed turnout as well forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #40
Wasn't it Bernie that started the "corrupt corporate serving Hillary" theme? CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #14
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #15
You, my friend, are a perfect example of what I was talking about in my post above CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #17
HER OWN STAFF were raising the alarm about the speeches killbotfactory Dec 2016 #18
Her staff were paid to look for weak point so that they can be mitigated CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #19
I supported Bernie and fell in line behind Clinton when he lost. killbotfactory Dec 2016 #22
A genteel primary fight, really? CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #30
Nailed it... SidDithers Dec 2016 #24
"Nailed it" x 2!!!! Tarheel_Dem Dec 2016 #34
"corporate giveaways that he could have never provided." JCanete Dec 2016 #25
Until Comney, most polls had us winning a senate majority and big gains in congress. bettyellen Dec 2016 #26
You can't have this both ways. Either Sanders cost us the election, in which case I say no, the DNC JCanete Dec 2016 #27
Actually it was such a squeaker that any of a multitude of things could have turned it around... bettyellen Dec 2016 #28
Sure. I'm not going to dredge up for the purposes of this conversation whether all accusations JCanete Dec 2016 #29
Good points but Seasider Dec 2016 #38
No, but those individuals, whoever they are, weren't goaded to do so by Sanders JCanete Dec 2016 #39
Most people aren't going to face that reality very quickly, and those people who hate Hillary, or JCanete Dec 2016 #3
I think Noam Chomsky said it best still_one Dec 2016 #4
Yes, this is a fair criticism of the approach. I was just saying that people who JCanete Dec 2016 #5
They must be rejoicing now at all the system shock. I hold them accountable for it. Justice Dec 2016 #7
No, that neve happens. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #9
Did you forget about President Obama? mtnsnake Dec 2016 #13
Exit polls in both 1992 and 1996 clearly showed that Perot took equally from both candidates. StevieM Dec 2016 #31
They're going to learn "the hard way". Serves them right. Narrow oasis Dec 2016 #6
I think the worst part is how such people style themselves "heroes" in their own minds. BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #10
I understand them--Well, kinda ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #11
This. And there is no hope changing their minds, either. duffyduff Dec 2016 #16
Yup... SidDithers Dec 2016 #20
I saw a post on Joe.My.God that said it beautifully. yardwork Dec 2016 #41
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