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MADem

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49. OCCUPY is often tossed out there as the "opposite number" of the Tea Party, but I don't think that
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 03:04 PM
Jan 2014

is really true.

The Tea Party is a bunch of flaky, racist assholes who hate black people, brown people, immigrants of any hue, taxes, any kind of gubmint intrusion, and who think that paying for shit like schools, and road repair, and street lights is a damn waste of "their" money. They hate social programs (for everyone but their own worthy selves, of course) and they are afraid that those lib-ruls are gonna grab their guns.

The Occupy people, though, were a mix of idealists who believed in social safety nets and change and all that swell stuff, and Paulbot assholes, and anarchists, and homeless people with no political agenda beyond clean dry socks and "Can I get some of that hot food you're cooking?" While the idealists were busy doing the whole urban camping schtick, pooping in grocery bags, wasting time fighting the police over their right to freeze their asses off on the sidewalk and exasperating the hell out of most people who thought they were using their time poorly, the Paulbots and anarchists were having a field day, creating chaos, raising hell, and making the idealists look like a bunch of ineffectual tools. Had the lefties in the equation stood up, taken charge, gotten over the stupid camping, libraries and kitchen horseshit, given up the twinkle fingers drone of consensus and run the frigging thing like VVAW, they might have gotten something done. Elect leaders, assign spokespeople, don't think that getting a permit to march somehow "infringes" on freedom. That whole bullshit about being "afraid" the leaders would be targeted is bull. Fear killed that movement. If one goes down, you put up another--that's the way to roll, not ask for consensus from a bunch of anarchists or have a bunch of white campers tell a man like John Lewis he's not "qualified" to speak to them. The best demonstrations they had were union-organized and sponsored, down to the signs. That's telling.

If the Occupy lefties just told the Paulbots and anarchists to fuck themselves, to get out, to leave because their views were contrary to the whole concept of safety nets for all, they might have had a movement. Now they have a few tiny little "community actions," here and there, organized by people who should have been elevated to positions as national leaders of the Occupy movement, and they have their memories. Such a waste.

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That is what I expect. nt bemildred Jan 2014 #1
Got a link to the original column (you linked to Dionne's piece)? geek tragedy Jan 2014 #2
Corrected. Sorry! Thanks for the heads up! Much appreciated eom DonViejo Jan 2014 #3
This is the most ridiculous thing I heard today. DetlefK Jan 2014 #4
Thank you. BlueStreak Jan 2014 #5
+1000. Thank you. (nt) Paladin Jan 2014 #9
+1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 ! BobUp Jan 2014 #28
Agreed! LiberalFighter Jan 2014 #35
apparently this dean guy is a comedian. Whisp Jan 2014 #37
Get that, you Dems with principles? Back off, you're dangerous! polichick Jan 2014 #6
I welcome the resurgence of the Democratic left. Laelth Jan 2014 #7
Apples to oranges sakabatou Jan 2014 #8
No comparison newfie11 Jan 2014 #10
First, they mock us, now they fear us. Chan790 Jan 2014 #11
+1. n/t Laelth Jan 2014 #14
This country is so deeply mired packman Jan 2014 #12
If this hit piece isn't the epitome of false equivalency... meow2u3 Jan 2014 #13
How many times is Elizabeth Warren going to have to say Arkana Jan 2014 #15
The 'new' Sanders/Warren wing of the Dems is a throwback to what I remember of the 50s & 60s party.. dmosh42 Jan 2014 #16
It's a throwback to what the Democratic party was, at least since Roosevelt! LongTomH Jan 2014 #27
I don't think ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #17
We agree! Thanks for your comment... DonViejo Jan 2014 #19
Problem is ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #20
and "centrists" see themselves as "centrists" frylock Jan 2014 #24
So... Jakes Progress Jan 2014 #58
Silly? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #60
Yep. Jakes Progress Jan 2014 #63
Okay, Let ME explain ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #64
Games some people play. Jakes Progress Jan 2014 #67
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #68
Still Jakes Progress Jan 2014 #69
in the real world, i want it all my way or blah blah blah.. frylock Jan 2014 #23
I'm not a centrist so, DonViejo Jan 2014 #40
not a centrist, but you're down for some hippy punching? frylock Jan 2014 #41
Why would I go around punching myself? DonViejo Jan 2014 #42
Aren't the teaparty mostly Libertarians? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #52
When have the democrats ever been unified since the conservative wing of the party fled? apnu Jan 2014 #18
Democratic Party? What Democratic Party? blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #21
This is the same type of reasoning used by Nader in 2000 Gothmog Jan 2014 #38
False. There are alternatives other than GOP and GOP Lite demwing Jan 2014 #46
The SCOTUS action would not have matter if Democratic voters had not listened to Nader's stupidity Gothmog Jan 2014 #47
Use the stairs! demwing Jan 2014 #50
I take it by your response that you will be happy to see Roe v. Wade overturned Gothmog Jan 2014 #55
I’m not surprised that you had that reaction demwing Jan 2014 #56
The people who claim that the Democratic Party is the same as the GOP are wrong Gothmog Jan 2014 #57
THIRD WAY BULLSHIT! imthevicar Jan 2014 #22
Oh Donkey Dung. There is no equivalency here. Teabaggers are astroturf funded by Koch et al and yellowcanine Jan 2014 #25
How could you? BobUp Jan 2014 #26
Oh, dailybeast. Asshole stupidity. nt valerief Jan 2014 #29
I'll believe it when I see it. Xyzse Jan 2014 #30
Bill DeBlasio owes his mayoralty to both Clintons. MADem Jan 2014 #31
Some entities are beyond the pale to acquiesce. Chan790 Jan 2014 #44
I think DeBlasio and Clinton are on the same page. MADem Jan 2014 #48
Though both sides are vocal, Jamaal510 Jan 2014 #32
OCCUPY is often tossed out there as the "opposite number" of the Tea Party, but I don't think that MADem Jan 2014 #49
And so it begins. PFunk Jan 2014 #33
Really? Which astroturf billionaires are secretly influencing progressives? think Jan 2014 #34
Bite the tongue - the comparison is obscene. n/t Whisp Jan 2014 #36
Ignore your base at your own risk. (nt) Countdown_3_2_1 Jan 2014 #39
I certainly hope so. sendero Jan 2014 #43
Representing the electorate is not destructive. ProgressSaves Jan 2014 #45
How soon? Not soon enough! Warpy Jan 2014 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author tridim Jan 2014 #53
When has there ever been Democratic Party unity? notadmblnd Jan 2014 #54
Really stupid article. Jakes Progress Jan 2014 #59
Media Madness november3rd Jan 2014 #61
There are a few Democratic equivalents to Tea Party radicals, like Cynthia McKinney Arneoker Jan 2014 #62
Comparing people on our side- any of them- to the Republican Tea Party Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2014 #65
This more of that "both parties do it" bullshit. It was, is and forever will be bullshit. What ancianita Jan 2014 #66
They might as well call it "The D Party" NCLefty Jan 2014 #70
We Democrats have to be more pragmatic to survive Arneoker Jan 2014 #71
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