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sofa king

(10,857 posts)
78. Keep the convention, get another referendum on the Nov. ballot!
Mon May 14, 2012, 10:40 AM
May 2012

According to that GOP pollster that Andy Sullivan dug up last week, the change of opinion on gay marriage is moving fast, and just like global warming the rate of change is accelerating. Ten percent of voters may change their minds this year alone, particularly if it is kept in the spotlight and the usual suspects in the bought media fulminate all over themselves.

The referendum won by 61%. In six months, that could be 51%-49%. With Romney depressing Republican turnout nationwide, and with the President firmly planting the flag there in NC for the convention, it is not out of the realm of possibility that a vote to repeal the referendum can also win this year, for us.

I think that like Barry Sanders watching a play unfold, President Obama has spotted a hole that doesn't exist yet, and plans to crash through that.

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Mr. President: move the convention. [View all] Pab Sungenis May 2012 OP
He can move the convention to Minneapolis... Kalidurga May 2012 #1
He can come here on one condition. DURHAM D May 2012 #2
Move the convention and mark North Carolina in the loss column in November Zorro May 2012 #3
North Carolina is already lost. Pab Sungenis May 2012 #4
One good thing - DURHAM D May 2012 #5
By that reasoning he loses California Retrograde May 2012 #8
This isn't just equality. Pab Sungenis May 2012 #10
PRES OBAMA..... GET THE HECK OUT OF NORTH CAROLINA!!!! BOYCOTT NORTH CAROLINA trueblue2007 May 2012 #46
That's just NOT the fact you think it is Capn Sunshine May 2012 #50
As my Republican father would say, that's a hell of an attitude. CBHagman May 2012 #66
There will be a backlash for that vote. Major Hogwash May 2012 #79
NC's already a loss now. PFunk May 2012 #15
I guess Maine and Florida are already lost also Carnage251 May 2012 #16
Both of which are peanuts Pab Sungenis May 2012 #26
Do you live in NC? JoePhilly May 2012 #28
NC is not a loss. And I am a gay male and live in NC. n/t musicblind May 2012 #49
Charlotte-Mecklenberg voted NO 54% on Amendment 1 bluestateguy May 2012 #6
If there was a way the money could stay in Charlotte, that might make a difference. Pab Sungenis May 2012 #11
And the state government voted, how? jberryhill May 2012 #17
The state government Pab Sungenis May 2012 #25
As have 32 other states jberryhill May 2012 #35
Not to this degree. Pab Sungenis May 2012 #36
Yes jberryhill May 2012 #38
Two cousins. Pab Sungenis May 2012 #39
I demand they stop contributing to NC's economy jberryhill May 2012 #41
They are. Pab Sungenis May 2012 #45
Exactly. This is misplaced. treestar May 2012 #20
The bold move would be to not show up. bigwillq May 2012 #7
And that would still mean our party Pab Sungenis May 2012 #9
Can they move it? bigwillq May 2012 #12
1972 Pab Sungenis May 2012 #24
Maybe it won't be discussed there. rug May 2012 #13
Dems will always have issues with... dennis4868 May 2012 #14
Having the convention there isn't condoning the law Carnage251 May 2012 #18
No. Bolo Boffin May 2012 #19
+1 treestar May 2012 #21
Don't want the gays to stay home like in 2010? Pab Sungenis May 2012 #23
I am one of "the gays", Pab Bolo Boffin May 2012 #27
I thought long and hard about how to reply Pab Sungenis May 2012 #33
Translation: "I was pwned." scheming daemons May 2012 #56
+ lots of 0's Whisp May 2012 #43
How is it belittling your issues? Arkana May 2012 #32
Would you ask blacks to go to a convention Pab Sungenis May 2012 #34
No, but no one's asking gay people to sit at the back of a bus Arkana May 2012 #42
You have no clue what gays go through every day in some states. Pab Sungenis May 2012 #44
Why would anyone with a brain stay home due to the location of the convention? treestar May 2012 #53
I'm not "threatening." Pab Sungenis May 2012 #54
If it's a life and death issue, then why risk Rmoney winning? treestar May 2012 #57
Why risk Rmoney winning? Pab Sungenis May 2012 #58
OK, so according to you, they care only about themselves treestar May 2012 #59
In 2010 there was no difference on the wars, either. Pab Sungenis May 2012 #60
Of course there was a difference on the wars treestar May 2012 #61
On gay issues? In 2010? Pab Sungenis May 2012 #62
and if he moved it, you'd invent something else to be outraged about. bank it. dionysus May 2012 #65
If only they had known in advance that the state was filled with bigots taterguy May 2012 #22
28 states have similar provisions written into their constitutions. JoePhilly May 2012 #29
Oregon is one of those states davidpdx May 2012 #52
All you have to do is put it in a low turn out election ... the fundies JoePhilly May 2012 #63
It was passed in 2004 davidpdx May 2012 #69
I never understood why on earth the Democrats ever picked North Carolina in the first place. nt avebury May 2012 #30
You don't understand because you probably know little about North Carolina onenote May 2012 #80
A year ago this would have been possible but it's not going to happen in four months. Arkana May 2012 #31
We will find out how important gays and lesbians are to our party one way or the other. AngryAmish May 2012 #37
I think we already have. Pab Sungenis May 2012 #40
No Thanks we've already spent a ton Thrill May 2012 #47
As a gay man who lives in NC, please do not move the convention. NC is on the bubble of turning musicblind May 2012 #48
Good point davidpdx May 2012 #51
This thread is misguided scheming daemons May 2012 #55
Thank you! n/t musicblind May 2012 #64
SD davidpdx May 2012 #70
That would be logistically improbable if not impossible. AtomicKitten May 2012 #67
I can't wait to see him lecture NC tcaudilllg May 2012 #68
No, we shouldn't move the convention!! Skrewdriver May 2012 #71
Thank you, Mr. Concern. Pab Sungenis May 2012 #72
Gaypartheid? Skrewdriver May 2012 #74
This is a stupid idea SpartanDem May 2012 #73
Talk to them about "you've been a very bad boy" Pab Sungenis May 2012 #77
Too late to the discussion but no, the President should akbacchus_BC May 2012 #75
"He is for the American people." Pab Sungenis May 2012 #76
Keep the convention, get another referendum on the Nov. ballot! sofa king May 2012 #78
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