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2016 Postmortem

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fbc

(1,668 posts)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:59 AM Jul 2015

When Hillary Clinton "updates" her positions, how can we be sure they stay that way? [View all]

Here is an example of an instance where a strong position against banks in defense of families got thrown out the window just a few years later:



tl;dw: After speaking with Warren, Clinton becomes a champion against a bank sponsored bankruptcy bill in the later days of Bill Clinton's second term and deservedly gets credit for inspiring Bill's veto of the bill. A few years later, as a Senator, she votes for the same bill when it comes back up.

I don't want Bernie Sanders "pulling Clinton left" on the issues for her to jump right back to the other side if she becomes president. I think she should tell people her actual, honest positions on issues, and when I say "actual, honest positions" I mean the way she would act on those issues if she becomes president.
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wet your finger, stick it up in the air and see which way the wind is blowing..... bowens43 Jul 2015 #1
No difference with any candidate liberal N proud Jul 2015 #2
I guess it's all good then whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #3
Then why even support a candidate if their platforms and speeches artislife Jul 2015 #4
why support a candidate that permites lies about accepting PAC money? Sheepshank Jul 2015 #6
Great deflection artislife Jul 2015 #7
Good question whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #9
Yes artislife Jul 2015 #12
They aren't empty words. It is them filling us in on their ideology. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #39
I guess I am artislife Jul 2015 #41
I couldn't and wouldn't argue against either of these. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #52
OMFG we are back to evolving or not evolving? Sheepshank Jul 2015 #5
Did you watch the video? Hillary devolved rateyes Jul 2015 #11
I am going to start a drinking game artislife Jul 2015 #15
well...did he or didn't he evolve from that? Sheepshank Jul 2015 #20
It so difficult because you all sound so much alike artislife Jul 2015 #24
make notes...it will help you in the future n/t Sheepshank Jul 2015 #28
No, I look at avatars and get to know from there artislife Jul 2015 #30
you do realize people often share the same avatars, or even change avatars? Sheepshank Jul 2015 #33
Well your name is now burned into my retna. artislife Jul 2015 #34
Some of us just DU for fun. Not everyone is such a pro that we take notes on other people. Cheese Sandwich Aug 2015 #63
When Sanders supporters thoroughly piss off every Hillary voter, how will they win the election if stevenleser Jul 2015 #8
So are you saying you won't necessarily vote for the nominee? whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #10
Is that a threat fbc Jul 2015 #13
Shhh ...the pledge only works one way.... artislife Jul 2015 #18
How exciting. Bernistas are getting a taste of their own medicine Sheepshank Jul 2015 #23
Think logically about this for a moment. How could it be a threat? I can't control large swaths of stevenleser Jul 2015 #25
Here's the reality fbc Jul 2015 #31
It's not just on DU, but DUers can make the experience what it is for other DUers. That's reality. stevenleser Jul 2015 #35
What's wrong with Biden entering the race? fbc Jul 2015 #37
Nothing wrong. He'd inherit all of Hillary's original level of support and then Bernie supporters stevenleser Jul 2015 #44
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #46
Nope, she's not. Bernie supporters plus Republicans plus the media are with fake scandals. stevenleser Jul 2015 #47
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #50
Oh, so you are defending stuff like Benghazi now? Good luck with that. stevenleser Jul 2015 #53
I like this referee meme! Cheese Sandwich Aug 2015 #62
No offense, but that sounds like nonsense. fbc Jul 2015 #49
No, you dont want to hear it, but it is exactly what would happen. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #51
It is already. BKH70041 Jul 2015 #56
so Hillary voters would sit out the election and throw it to the Republicans? virtualobserver Jul 2015 #17
Bernistas apparently had set the standard months ago..... Sheepshank Jul 2015 #21
When a Democratic strategist implies that Sanders supporters pissing off Hillary supporters virtualobserver Jul 2015 #27
why is that more serious? Sheepshank Jul 2015 #29
savor it, then n/t virtualobserver Jul 2015 #32
They have suddenly forgotten the SCOTUS and what it means to women. jwirr Aug 2015 #64
Save that for your next appearance on Fox. L0oniX Jul 2015 #22
Have you watched him on Fox? NCTraveler Jul 2015 #45
! frylock Jul 2015 #57
He won't win the primary, and is currently stalled, for just that reason. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #42
I have a pretty high "piss off threshold" in politics but there BlueMTexpat Jul 2015 #48
Um, the inverse also applies Armstead Jul 2015 #55
The same as when Hillary supporters thoroughly piss off every Bernie voter Autumn Aug 2015 #61
Her "centrist" record for every year of her life (less the last six months) is the best guide. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #14
Always follow with a check SwampG8r Jul 2015 #16
ouch. nt Cheese Sandwich Aug 2015 #65
Same as with any other candidate: do you think they're honest and trustworthy? n/t winter is coming Jul 2015 #19
Why do you care? You aren't voting for her regardless. BainsBane Jul 2015 #26
when you say "public" don't you actually mean "donors"? n/t virtualobserver Jul 2015 #36
I mean voters BainsBane Jul 2015 #38
She is listening......What words do the American people want to hear? virtualobserver Jul 2015 #40
Govern from the middle HassleCat Jul 2015 #43
Kicking for the gratuitous association of Bernie with "gang raping women" and "orgasms". beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #54
Don't hold your breath. Nt. Juicy_Bellows Jul 2015 #58
Simple answer. You can't. EndElectoral Jul 2015 #59
I don't. nc4bo Aug 2015 #60
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