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In reply to the discussion: The one thing that will stop Bernie Sanders.....his supporters [View all]Autumn
(45,079 posts)27. I been saying... For Hillary to win the primary,she has to convert LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS
of people who would HAPPILY vote for her. Attacking Bernie, and attacking his supporters, will not convert those people. Go figure you would think people would get that but no.
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There as a poll that showed in swing states Bernie was either beating or close to beating
Larkspur
Aug 2015
#422
It is not an attack to question whether Sanders is viable in the general election
Gothmog
Aug 2015
#423
Sanders supporters are being slimed, just like Howard Dean's supporters were in 2003-2004
Larkspur
Aug 2015
#209
I actually appreciate the way you avoid being nasty towards Hillary. I try not to myself and I dislike her.
bravenak
Aug 2015
#354
You can just leave me alone after that nasty post that was hidden. Number23 was right.nt
bravenak
Aug 2015
#427
I been saying... For Hillary to win the primary,she has to convert LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS
Autumn
Aug 2015
#27
Oh yeah? If I was interested enough I could give you link after link proving you wrong.
Autumn
Aug 2015
#48
It started the day after his campaign kickoff in Burlington, VT, Tues. May 26
appalachiablue
Aug 2015
#434
She's up by 40 points, not many left to "convert". Nice try at turnabout though.
George II
Aug 2015
#84
I didn't try a turnabout George. I just straight up mocked the post cause that door swings 2 ways.
Autumn
Aug 2015
#134
Criticism of issues is fair game, but when they call Hillary supporters things like "fools, third way
still_one
Aug 2015
#79
I am not talking about a group. A group is a specialized area where they set their own rules. I am
still_one
Aug 2015
#103
Of course you're not. Funny how the condemnation is only for Bernie's supporters.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#112
I did NOT participate in the mocking of any candidate's supporters running in the Democratic primary
still_one
Aug 2015
#240
All I'm asking is for you to acknowledge that both sides are at fault.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#242
Partisanship, as far as I am concerned is expected in those groups. Issues may not always be the
still_one
Aug 2015
#203
I agree, however, special groups are governed by their own set of rules, and even though they are
still_one
Aug 2015
#248
I'll tell you, the vitriol I've seen here has made me change my second choice...
Adrahil
Aug 2015
#360
Actually I'm not "pretending" that some people seem to match behaviors in the blog nt
Sheepshank
Aug 2015
#44
Since we're "matching" behaviours, how do you feel about linking to Stormfront on DU?
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#63
Who cares? You don't link to anti-semitic hate groups when discussing a Jewish candidate.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#105
What exactly is your point with this? Are you implying that Sheepshank goes to Stormfront?
Hekate
Aug 2015
#106
Because we're discussing disturbing behaviour by supporters on both sides.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#109
"The one thing that will stop Bernie Sanders.....his supporters" <- NO, I'm not saying this
99th_Monkey
Aug 2015
#72
It is not expressing views against Hillary that is the problem. It is calling Hillary and her
still_one
Aug 2015
#85
Here is one link, and the path followed. Keep in mind I realize this kind of stuff happens on
still_one
Aug 2015
#175
I am not arguing the OP, and in fact agree with your point, Hillary should be more aggressive
still_one
Aug 2015
#208
I love how the advice to not "attack" Clinton or her supporters greatly helps Clinton's path to the
Ed Suspicious
Aug 2015
#92
Agreed. That's what I do. That's why when they call issues oriented criticism an unfair attack,
Ed Suspicious
Aug 2015
#124
Thanks so much for encouraginging his supporters to work even harder, this was needed ...
slipslidingaway
Aug 2015
#3
His supporters are anti Obama. Thats why they will NEVER win over black people or the Obama
bravenak
Aug 2015
#5
I don't like Democratic candidates, Bravenak, who govern far more to the right than they campaigned
villager
Aug 2015
#34
I don't think you get it. The why you bash Obama doesn't matter. Many POC identify with him.
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#37
As Bravenak will tell you, I am a POC, but thanks for trying to dismiss me. nt
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#49
But the thing is, the vast majority of the bashing was unadulterated bullshit. It really was
Number23
Aug 2015
#127
Bernie was wailing, too.. he wanted to Primary President Obama in 2012.. said "millions were
Cha
Aug 2015
#256
What is anti-Obama rhetoric? Being against the TPP? Arne Duncan and Public Schools? Drones?
mmonk
Aug 2015
#221
So I suppose if the GOP nominates Dr. Ben Carson, we cant criticize his policies either?
Armstead
Aug 2015
#65
so ALL the Black people you know say ALL the White people that support Bernie hate Obama ?
azurnoir
Aug 2015
#47
ya in 2011 he said Obama should primary because it looked like he was cutting Social Security
azurnoir
Aug 2015
#66
no in the end he did not, but at a point in in time it looked like he might well make those cuts
azurnoir
Aug 2015
#82
It was a mistake to call for a primary if he was going to run for President. It will be brought up.n
bravenak
Aug 2015
#86
Perhaps or perhaps it had influence but if that is the tac that will be taken
azurnoir
Aug 2015
#110
He proactively proposed it that is indisputable and so it required push back.
TheKentuckian
Aug 2015
#456
Amen, sistah! Thank you! yeah, Bernie wanted to Primary President Obama.. not too smart.
Cha
Aug 2015
#94
they actually have acted like that. BS said Milions were ".. disappointed.." .. well, Millions
Cha
Aug 2015
#138
Sigh.. "..the color of skin".. I would wager it's more than skin deep with President Obama. They
Cha
Aug 2015
#247
Skin color should not enter one's thoughts when deciding to vote for a nominee ...
slipslidingaway
Aug 2015
#186
I've shut Obama haters IRL out of my life. If they can't see past *whatever* they've got a problem
freshwest
Aug 2015
#224
Holy hell. I am really surprised you pulled the hater card. I am also surprised that you played
Luminous Animal
Aug 2015
#229
Surprised that you did not address not one single point. You went immediately for emotion.
Luminous Animal
Aug 2015
#287
Yet. Somehow, you were cool with Bernie two weeks ago. I am totally on board for being nice
Luminous Animal
Aug 2015
#305
Okay.She will sing for Jesus. How will a Jew ever have a chance with the black and hispanic
Luminous Animal
Aug 2015
#322
"Also a good deal of what people dismiss is what Obama has done for civil rights, voting rights and
Cha
Aug 2015
#303
Realize that you are harming your candidate and don't talk about us like that.
bravenak
Aug 2015
#283
You'd think the racist dog whistles used by the Clintons in 2008 would keep their supporters humble.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#14
I said HC supporters were flinging feces, last I checked most of them were white.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#292
Nope, it's all about the hypocrisy, race and religion have nothing to do with it.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#300
Like I said, I know I have to live with myself after the primaries.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#309
This from someone who posted an op calling Bernie supporters "assholes"?
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#318
You realize some of these folks have some mental stability/illness issues right?
Agschmid
Aug 2015
#55
"Do you want me to find the craziest Bernie supporters and say that they represent ALL of Bernie's"
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#67
No, the one who called his supporters "assholes". Or did you miss that on purpose?
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#97
It's simple. Their ability to come up with a strategy is extremely limited.
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#46
This is a case in point. Promoting Bernie shouldn't be about comparing him to Hillary at all. nt
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#381
It should be about comparing the policies of one vs the policies of the other.
Enthusiast
Aug 2015
#396
That's the spirit. Do it for the good of the party. You don't have to like us, but we appreciate
Ed Suspicious
Aug 2015
#122
Oh it's not just that blog.. The Obama Diary which has over 30 million hits since Oct '09 has
Cha
Aug 2015
#80
Yeah, ask black people their experience with Bernie supporters after #Blacklivesmatter you cant
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#62
Did BLM choose Bernie because as a former FLOTUS Hillary is surrounded by secret service?
azurnoir
Aug 2015
#78
"Bernie Sanders could win the nomination, but not as long as his biggest and loudest supporters are
Cha
Aug 2015
#35
Speaking about self righteous..., didn't you rec these threads, Cha:?
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#90
ACTUAL SECRET VIDEO of Bernie's campaign setting volunteer recruiting goals
MannyGoldstein
Aug 2015
#75
"those capable of research" - that's my point. What you describe is research.
R B Garr
Aug 2015
#406
I thought it was just on DU too until I saw the #berniesoblack tag and read the reports from black
Number23
Aug 2015
#98
yeah, I wonder if Bernie has any clue what some of his supporters on the net are doing
Cha
Aug 2015
#108
After I saw a poster in this forum say that electing Bernie Sanders was the only way to eradicate
Number23
Aug 2015
#150
Lol **PRIME EXAMPLE OF EVERYTHING THE ENTIRE INTERNET HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE**
Number23
Aug 2015
#204
You need to take it up with the black female PROGRESSIVE who attended Netroots and couldn't wait
Number23
Aug 2015
#217
"Sanders supporters are unhinged loons secretly working to make their candidate lose." Seriously?
cherokeeprogressive
Aug 2015
#230
No one said anything about violence. That's you projecting some serious something right there
Number23
Aug 2015
#233
You post things like "they felt absolutely UNSAFE around Sanders unhinged supporters" and
cherokeeprogressive
Aug 2015
#237
The BLACK WOMAN at Netroots Nation said she felt unsafe. Those were HER WORDS brought on SOLELY
Number23
Aug 2015
#241
I'm not wailing or screaming. Howling? You fucking bet. Howling with laughter.
cherokeeprogressive
Aug 2015
#244
My pleasure. I do the same thing every time I see the latest polls on the Dem rankings
Number23
Aug 2015
#246
Thanks for the link, Number23. I can't believe she was cornered and manhandled
lunamagica
Aug 2015
#278
And what's even more telling is that her feeling unsafe around alleged "liberals" is cause for
Number23
Aug 2015
#299
I don't understand...it's just mind-boggling. What is funny, not just funny, but hilarious about
lunamagica
Aug 2015
#337
If by "attack" you mean a view of the abusive tactics of many Sanders supporters which is shared
Number23
Aug 2015
#295
The OP is evidence. There have been at least four other articles posted WITHIN this OP that are
Number23
Aug 2015
#317
You need to read the thread and the site. Maybe then you could educate yourself and stop labeling
Number23
Aug 2015
#433
Enraged that Citizens United has turned this country into an oligarchy, and that
jalan48
Aug 2015
#151
Sure I care what happens to our democracy, but we don't agree on where we are in the process.
Agschmid
Aug 2015
#158
That's unfortunate because he needs to be fundraising if he's going to beat the Rethugs,
pnwmom
Aug 2015
#157
Then you haven't been paying attention. Many have criticized his positions on gun control.
pnwmom
Aug 2015
#161
Thank you. I don't blame him for his previous positions on gun control. I just hope he reconsiders
pnwmom
Aug 2015
#238
When it came time to vote on the PLCAA, Hillary voted against it and Bernie voted for it.
pnwmom
Aug 2015
#258
I am committed to no one at this point, but I think her campaign is better organized and funded.
pnwmom
Aug 2015
#271
They've turned against him for some reason. But he was with them on some critical votes.
pnwmom
Aug 2015
#288
But your candidate doesn't even pay her interns -- and the article mentions the health benefits are
villager
Aug 2015
#189
Then why post something that doesn't really show him contradicting his position?
villager
Aug 2015
#194
Nope, it's an unprincipled stance. Is the reason for a $15/hr wage applicable now or not? n/t
seaglass
Aug 2015
#340
Why don't you direct me to where Bernie has said that $10/hr is a living wage now? n/t
seaglass
Aug 2015
#345
You are attempting to deflect. If Bernie had a principled stance he would be paying his staff a
seaglass
Aug 2015
#349
It is not deflection to describe the actual economic realities of a wage increase.
TM99
Aug 2015
#351
It is a deflection because we are talking about something Bernie could do to demonstrate his
seaglass
Aug 2015
#355
I think the Hillary supporters are calling the kettle black. They are projecting.
jalan48
Aug 2015
#185
I must have missed when the HRC supports called Black Lives Matter a Koch conspiracy
BainsBane
Aug 2015
#193
They weren't Hillary supporters but BS supporters who were so upset #BlackLivesMatter dared
Cha
Aug 2015
#259
Exactly, Martin O'Malley Supporters showed Class.. Too many BS supporters got ugly..
Cha
Aug 2015
#266
Shooks knows damn well that "scream" was manufactured by Corporate Media.
WorseBeforeBetter
Aug 2015
#316
Yeah right. You don't have to make stuff up to kick it. They don't do that there.
bravenak
Aug 2015
#302
"he may be related to or affiliated with that immasmartypants chick, Nancy LeTourneau"
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#330
I've been called a lot of things, Progressive Unicorn Battalion is pretty good.
Scruffy1
Aug 2015
#227
Two hundred people going back and forth on DU is going to STOP Bernie Sanders?
cherokeeprogressive
Aug 2015
#239
Nope...I ascribed to the idea that the Bernie supporters on DU are not the only ones....
Sheepshank
Aug 2015
#274
they're focused only on personality: therefore they can only believe that people only support
MisterP
Aug 2015
#414
plus that argument makes sense only with candidates whose rhetoric attracts listeners
MisterP
Aug 2015
#415
Plus his "small crowd strategy" basically means ACTUAL AMERICANS, and not there donors interests.
ion_theory
Aug 2015
#449
it's a joke from a while back: someone said Clinton's small crowds were a tactical choice by her
MisterP
Aug 2015
#451
A Sanders supporter told me that I was a bad parent for being the father of two daughters
Gothmog
Aug 2015
#421
It would appear you posted without reading the blog all the way through or the thread
Sheepshank
Aug 2015
#439