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In reply to the discussion: The one thing that will stop Bernie Sanders.....his supporters [View all]Gothmog
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There as a poll that showed in swing states Bernie was either beating or close to beating
Larkspur
Aug 2015
#422
It is not an attack to question whether Sanders is viable in the general election
Gothmog
Aug 2015
#423
Sanders supporters are being slimed, just like Howard Dean's supporters were in 2003-2004
Larkspur
Aug 2015
#209
I actually appreciate the way you avoid being nasty towards Hillary. I try not to myself and I dislike her.
bravenak
Aug 2015
#354
You can just leave me alone after that nasty post that was hidden. Number23 was right.nt
bravenak
Aug 2015
#427
I been saying... For Hillary to win the primary,she has to convert LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS
Autumn
Aug 2015
#27
Oh yeah? If I was interested enough I could give you link after link proving you wrong.
Autumn
Aug 2015
#48
It started the day after his campaign kickoff in Burlington, VT, Tues. May 26
appalachiablue
Aug 2015
#434
She's up by 40 points, not many left to "convert". Nice try at turnabout though.
George II
Aug 2015
#84
I didn't try a turnabout George. I just straight up mocked the post cause that door swings 2 ways.
Autumn
Aug 2015
#134
Criticism of issues is fair game, but when they call Hillary supporters things like "fools, third way
still_one
Aug 2015
#79
I am not talking about a group. A group is a specialized area where they set their own rules. I am
still_one
Aug 2015
#103
Of course you're not. Funny how the condemnation is only for Bernie's supporters.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#112
I did NOT participate in the mocking of any candidate's supporters running in the Democratic primary
still_one
Aug 2015
#240
All I'm asking is for you to acknowledge that both sides are at fault.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#242
Partisanship, as far as I am concerned is expected in those groups. Issues may not always be the
still_one
Aug 2015
#203
I agree, however, special groups are governed by their own set of rules, and even though they are
still_one
Aug 2015
#248
I'll tell you, the vitriol I've seen here has made me change my second choice...
Adrahil
Aug 2015
#360
Actually I'm not "pretending" that some people seem to match behaviors in the blog nt
Sheepshank
Aug 2015
#44
Since we're "matching" behaviours, how do you feel about linking to Stormfront on DU?
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#63
Who cares? You don't link to anti-semitic hate groups when discussing a Jewish candidate.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#105
What exactly is your point with this? Are you implying that Sheepshank goes to Stormfront?
Hekate
Aug 2015
#106
Because we're discussing disturbing behaviour by supporters on both sides.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#109
"The one thing that will stop Bernie Sanders.....his supporters" <- NO, I'm not saying this
99th_Monkey
Aug 2015
#72
It is not expressing views against Hillary that is the problem. It is calling Hillary and her
still_one
Aug 2015
#85
Here is one link, and the path followed. Keep in mind I realize this kind of stuff happens on
still_one
Aug 2015
#175
I am not arguing the OP, and in fact agree with your point, Hillary should be more aggressive
still_one
Aug 2015
#208
I love how the advice to not "attack" Clinton or her supporters greatly helps Clinton's path to the
Ed Suspicious
Aug 2015
#92
Agreed. That's what I do. That's why when they call issues oriented criticism an unfair attack,
Ed Suspicious
Aug 2015
#124
Thanks so much for encouraginging his supporters to work even harder, this was needed ...
slipslidingaway
Aug 2015
#3
His supporters are anti Obama. Thats why they will NEVER win over black people or the Obama
bravenak
Aug 2015
#5
I don't like Democratic candidates, Bravenak, who govern far more to the right than they campaigned
villager
Aug 2015
#34
I don't think you get it. The why you bash Obama doesn't matter. Many POC identify with him.
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#37
As Bravenak will tell you, I am a POC, but thanks for trying to dismiss me. nt
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#49
But the thing is, the vast majority of the bashing was unadulterated bullshit. It really was
Number23
Aug 2015
#127
Bernie was wailing, too.. he wanted to Primary President Obama in 2012.. said "millions were
Cha
Aug 2015
#256
What is anti-Obama rhetoric? Being against the TPP? Arne Duncan and Public Schools? Drones?
mmonk
Aug 2015
#221
So I suppose if the GOP nominates Dr. Ben Carson, we cant criticize his policies either?
Armstead
Aug 2015
#65
so ALL the Black people you know say ALL the White people that support Bernie hate Obama ?
azurnoir
Aug 2015
#47
ya in 2011 he said Obama should primary because it looked like he was cutting Social Security
azurnoir
Aug 2015
#66
no in the end he did not, but at a point in in time it looked like he might well make those cuts
azurnoir
Aug 2015
#82
It was a mistake to call for a primary if he was going to run for President. It will be brought up.n
bravenak
Aug 2015
#86
Perhaps or perhaps it had influence but if that is the tac that will be taken
azurnoir
Aug 2015
#110
He proactively proposed it that is indisputable and so it required push back.
TheKentuckian
Aug 2015
#456
Amen, sistah! Thank you! yeah, Bernie wanted to Primary President Obama.. not too smart.
Cha
Aug 2015
#94
they actually have acted like that. BS said Milions were ".. disappointed.." .. well, Millions
Cha
Aug 2015
#138
Sigh.. "..the color of skin".. I would wager it's more than skin deep with President Obama. They
Cha
Aug 2015
#247
Skin color should not enter one's thoughts when deciding to vote for a nominee ...
slipslidingaway
Aug 2015
#186
I've shut Obama haters IRL out of my life. If they can't see past *whatever* they've got a problem
freshwest
Aug 2015
#224
Holy hell. I am really surprised you pulled the hater card. I am also surprised that you played
Luminous Animal
Aug 2015
#229
Surprised that you did not address not one single point. You went immediately for emotion.
Luminous Animal
Aug 2015
#287
Yet. Somehow, you were cool with Bernie two weeks ago. I am totally on board for being nice
Luminous Animal
Aug 2015
#305
Okay.She will sing for Jesus. How will a Jew ever have a chance with the black and hispanic
Luminous Animal
Aug 2015
#322
"Also a good deal of what people dismiss is what Obama has done for civil rights, voting rights and
Cha
Aug 2015
#303
Realize that you are harming your candidate and don't talk about us like that.
bravenak
Aug 2015
#283
You'd think the racist dog whistles used by the Clintons in 2008 would keep their supporters humble.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#14
I said HC supporters were flinging feces, last I checked most of them were white.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#292
Nope, it's all about the hypocrisy, race and religion have nothing to do with it.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#300
Like I said, I know I have to live with myself after the primaries.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#309
This from someone who posted an op calling Bernie supporters "assholes"?
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#318
You realize some of these folks have some mental stability/illness issues right?
Agschmid
Aug 2015
#55
"Do you want me to find the craziest Bernie supporters and say that they represent ALL of Bernie's"
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#67
No, the one who called his supporters "assholes". Or did you miss that on purpose?
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#97
It's simple. Their ability to come up with a strategy is extremely limited.
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#46
This is a case in point. Promoting Bernie shouldn't be about comparing him to Hillary at all. nt
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#381
It should be about comparing the policies of one vs the policies of the other.
Enthusiast
Aug 2015
#396
That's the spirit. Do it for the good of the party. You don't have to like us, but we appreciate
Ed Suspicious
Aug 2015
#122
Oh it's not just that blog.. The Obama Diary which has over 30 million hits since Oct '09 has
Cha
Aug 2015
#80
Yeah, ask black people their experience with Bernie supporters after #Blacklivesmatter you cant
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#62
Did BLM choose Bernie because as a former FLOTUS Hillary is surrounded by secret service?
azurnoir
Aug 2015
#78
"Bernie Sanders could win the nomination, but not as long as his biggest and loudest supporters are
Cha
Aug 2015
#35
Speaking about self righteous..., didn't you rec these threads, Cha:?
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#90
ACTUAL SECRET VIDEO of Bernie's campaign setting volunteer recruiting goals
MannyGoldstein
Aug 2015
#75
"those capable of research" - that's my point. What you describe is research.
R B Garr
Aug 2015
#406
I thought it was just on DU too until I saw the #berniesoblack tag and read the reports from black
Number23
Aug 2015
#98
yeah, I wonder if Bernie has any clue what some of his supporters on the net are doing
Cha
Aug 2015
#108
After I saw a poster in this forum say that electing Bernie Sanders was the only way to eradicate
Number23
Aug 2015
#150
Lol **PRIME EXAMPLE OF EVERYTHING THE ENTIRE INTERNET HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE**
Number23
Aug 2015
#204
You need to take it up with the black female PROGRESSIVE who attended Netroots and couldn't wait
Number23
Aug 2015
#217
"Sanders supporters are unhinged loons secretly working to make their candidate lose." Seriously?
cherokeeprogressive
Aug 2015
#230
No one said anything about violence. That's you projecting some serious something right there
Number23
Aug 2015
#233
You post things like "they felt absolutely UNSAFE around Sanders unhinged supporters" and
cherokeeprogressive
Aug 2015
#237
The BLACK WOMAN at Netroots Nation said she felt unsafe. Those were HER WORDS brought on SOLELY
Number23
Aug 2015
#241
I'm not wailing or screaming. Howling? You fucking bet. Howling with laughter.
cherokeeprogressive
Aug 2015
#244
My pleasure. I do the same thing every time I see the latest polls on the Dem rankings
Number23
Aug 2015
#246
Thanks for the link, Number23. I can't believe she was cornered and manhandled
lunamagica
Aug 2015
#278
And what's even more telling is that her feeling unsafe around alleged "liberals" is cause for
Number23
Aug 2015
#299
I don't understand...it's just mind-boggling. What is funny, not just funny, but hilarious about
lunamagica
Aug 2015
#337
If by "attack" you mean a view of the abusive tactics of many Sanders supporters which is shared
Number23
Aug 2015
#295
The OP is evidence. There have been at least four other articles posted WITHIN this OP that are
Number23
Aug 2015
#317
You need to read the thread and the site. Maybe then you could educate yourself and stop labeling
Number23
Aug 2015
#433
Enraged that Citizens United has turned this country into an oligarchy, and that
jalan48
Aug 2015
#151
Sure I care what happens to our democracy, but we don't agree on where we are in the process.
Agschmid
Aug 2015
#158
That's unfortunate because he needs to be fundraising if he's going to beat the Rethugs,
pnwmom
Aug 2015
#157
Then you haven't been paying attention. Many have criticized his positions on gun control.
pnwmom
Aug 2015
#161
Thank you. I don't blame him for his previous positions on gun control. I just hope he reconsiders
pnwmom
Aug 2015
#238
When it came time to vote on the PLCAA, Hillary voted against it and Bernie voted for it.
pnwmom
Aug 2015
#258
I am committed to no one at this point, but I think her campaign is better organized and funded.
pnwmom
Aug 2015
#271
They've turned against him for some reason. But he was with them on some critical votes.
pnwmom
Aug 2015
#288
But your candidate doesn't even pay her interns -- and the article mentions the health benefits are
villager
Aug 2015
#189
Then why post something that doesn't really show him contradicting his position?
villager
Aug 2015
#194
Nope, it's an unprincipled stance. Is the reason for a $15/hr wage applicable now or not? n/t
seaglass
Aug 2015
#340
Why don't you direct me to where Bernie has said that $10/hr is a living wage now? n/t
seaglass
Aug 2015
#345
You are attempting to deflect. If Bernie had a principled stance he would be paying his staff a
seaglass
Aug 2015
#349
It is not deflection to describe the actual economic realities of a wage increase.
TM99
Aug 2015
#351
It is a deflection because we are talking about something Bernie could do to demonstrate his
seaglass
Aug 2015
#355
I think the Hillary supporters are calling the kettle black. They are projecting.
jalan48
Aug 2015
#185
I must have missed when the HRC supports called Black Lives Matter a Koch conspiracy
BainsBane
Aug 2015
#193
They weren't Hillary supporters but BS supporters who were so upset #BlackLivesMatter dared
Cha
Aug 2015
#259
Exactly, Martin O'Malley Supporters showed Class.. Too many BS supporters got ugly..
Cha
Aug 2015
#266
Shooks knows damn well that "scream" was manufactured by Corporate Media.
WorseBeforeBetter
Aug 2015
#316
Yeah right. You don't have to make stuff up to kick it. They don't do that there.
bravenak
Aug 2015
#302
"he may be related to or affiliated with that immasmartypants chick, Nancy LeTourneau"
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#330
I've been called a lot of things, Progressive Unicorn Battalion is pretty good.
Scruffy1
Aug 2015
#227
Two hundred people going back and forth on DU is going to STOP Bernie Sanders?
cherokeeprogressive
Aug 2015
#239
Nope...I ascribed to the idea that the Bernie supporters on DU are not the only ones....
Sheepshank
Aug 2015
#274
they're focused only on personality: therefore they can only believe that people only support
MisterP
Aug 2015
#414
plus that argument makes sense only with candidates whose rhetoric attracts listeners
MisterP
Aug 2015
#415
Plus his "small crowd strategy" basically means ACTUAL AMERICANS, and not there donors interests.
ion_theory
Aug 2015
#449
it's a joke from a while back: someone said Clinton's small crowds were a tactical choice by her
MisterP
Aug 2015
#451
A Sanders supporter told me that I was a bad parent for being the father of two daughters
Gothmog
Aug 2015
#421
It would appear you posted without reading the blog all the way through or the thread
Sheepshank
Aug 2015
#439