2016 Postmortem

ljm2002

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63. Fine. I understand...

Sat Aug 8, 2015, 11:21 PM

Aug 2015

...and agree: this issue is an urgent one and no one needs to apologize for bringing it front and center. But when one candidate is singled out in this way, it does not actually advance the cause IMO.

Yes both Bernie Sanders and Martin O'Malley were disrupted at Netroots Nation. Since then, it has been only Bernie. And that does not strike me as either fair or constructive. Instead of advancing the message on a broad front, BLM has made it into a focused attack on a single candidate, thus diluting the message greatly.

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Dear Marissa and other members of Seattle BLM: [View all] cali Aug 2015 OP

Has BLM protested any Republican candidate? grasswire Aug 2015 #1

They are too cowardly, face it. ... I see I'm getting hostile, better go pett a cat. Shrike47 Aug 2015 #5

LOL My feelings exactly.... The empressof all Aug 2015 #9

Nope. No Republican, No Clinton, No Obama, No Lynch. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2015 #24

Exactly, but heaven forbid we call them on it - White Supremacist Liberals - that's what they called peacebird Aug 2015 #35

There's a DU poster who called the Bernie Group the same this morning. CrispyQ Aug 2015 #159

I smell a RAT. bvar22 Aug 2015 #177

Odd isn't it? That they would attack the candidate with the BEST RECORD sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #88

Well said Sabrina. AllyCat Aug 2015 #138

Not odd at all. Those that don't want Sen Sanders to be the Democratic nominee (maybe Goldman-Sachs) rhett o rick Aug 2015 #191

Actually they did protest Obama at Selma, some were removed by the police... PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #103

Yes. Obama did get to speak, though. merrily Aug 2015 #126

But Bernie. Has only the power of a US senator at this time. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #136

I'd ask them how all the love for the oligarchy is going for them... L0oniX Aug 2015 #172

They were a few people far away and they didn't Obama at all. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #133

Interesting - isn't it? 840high Aug 2015 #108

To which Lynch are you referring? merrily Aug 2015 #125

The Attorney General, Loretta Lynch. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2015 #161

Thanks. merrily Aug 2015 #162

No Pharaoh Aug 2015 #70

Clinton security would beat 840high Aug 2015 #109

Don't Waste Your Breath billhicks76 Aug 2015 #75

Of that I have no doubt at all. None. hifiguy Aug 2015 #77

How the hell does that sound "racist"? The word is losing its meaning, 7962 Aug 2015 #171

I immediately thought James O'Keefe--the ACORN guy. japple Aug 2015 #189

Now, that DOES sound racist. yardwork Aug 2015 #145

It sounds about as racist as saying A Simple Game Aug 2015 #150

WTF?? pocoloco Aug 2015 #165

lol! Exactly. It is pretty condescending, isn't it? yardwork Aug 2015 #167

Paying people to disrupt the Political Events of competators... bvar22 Aug 2015 #178

A lot of people are thinking it's Clinton behind them, JoeyT Aug 2015 #181

It appears that this group has caused more damage than good to their cause. olegramps Aug 2015 #146

I completely agree sammythecat Aug 2015 #151

Their motivation isn't to elect democrats generally lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #158

Could you define "well heeled"? tazkcmo Aug 2015 #163

K&R, good to see you. It's been a drag around here during you absence. nt Snotcicles Aug 2015 #2

+1 Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #61

+1000 BeanMusical Aug 2015 #175

P.S.: be coherent. Ron Green Aug 2015 #3

They're pretty coherent if you listen. SunSeeker Aug 2015 #123

It's ludicrous to think a candidate is going to put out a policy paper mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #139

+1, and welcome back. nt LWolf Aug 2015 #4

An interesting question would be if BLM was hosting a rally on the abuses of African Americans in still_one Aug 2015 #6

Can you guess? 840high Aug 2015 #110

Not even a different issue tblue Aug 2015 #127

Why aren't BLM supporting the candidate most likely to help them? PADemD Aug 2015 #7

IMO somehow LiberalElite Aug 2015 #11

Cynicism, anger, etc. All of which is totally justified in this case, even if I agree that Sanders nomorenomore08 Aug 2015 #195

First let me say- ruffburr Aug 2015 #8

yes. well said cali Aug 2015 #10

sometimes when the oppression goes on too long you don't see the other side as roguevalley Aug 2015 #14

Excellent Post - I Was There Today And These BLM Idiots Made My White Ass Sick Yallow Aug 2015 #100

I watched the video - made me sick. 840high Aug 2015 #112

You put that quite well. Bohunk68 Aug 2015 #137

Ha! "flaming egotism" sammythecat Aug 2015 #153

That's just it. RichVRichV Aug 2015 #73

Fork. Don't give these people a promotion. A small cell of protesters acted autonomously Cheese Sandwich Aug 2015 #12

BS. After the Netroots (or during it) they talked about shutting down future rallys. n/t Skwmom Aug 2015 #16

I really don't think this was centrally co-ordinated Cheese Sandwich Aug 2015 #19

Wouldn't it be ironic skepticscott Aug 2015 #25

No. We do not have to assume it is local. Skwmom Aug 2015 #29

I believe you are spot-on-target about how . . . R. P. McMurphy Aug 2015 #179

I smell a rat Scruffy1 Aug 2015 #94

me too (nt) Tumbulu Aug 2015 #106

A big odoriferous ugly rat. Paka Aug 2015 #121

+100 lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #160

Gotta agree here. I saw things in the 60's too, and am certain that such Nay Aug 2015 #169

Yup. sarge43 Aug 2015 #184

And the rat is Sarah Palin! SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2015 #194

Yep. 840high Aug 2015 #114

Bullshit. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #80

You should remain an ally for minority rights and against police brutality and racism Daniel537 Aug 2015 #13

Bingo! peacebird Aug 2015 #44

Ding ding ding! onecaliberal Aug 2015 #71

yup.... Pharaoh Aug 2015 #76

Exactly. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #81

Wow!! Skidmore Aug 2015 #135

Who exactly is being "devisive" here? RiverLover Aug 2015 #142

You have this EXACTLY BACKWARDS! BillZBubb Aug 2015 #164

Does that include Sarah Palin supporters? Ikonoklast Aug 2015 #183

Not it is not what I am asking of anyone. Skidmore Aug 2015 #186

One of those women, Marissa is a Palin supporter. romanic Aug 2015 #187

What has that got to do with considering Skidmore Aug 2015 #188

Yeah, that's pretty much where I am with #BLM. WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2015 #84

+1 840high Aug 2015 #115

Thank you! RiverLover Aug 2015 #131

Exactly how I feel as well. sammythecat Aug 2015 #154

Marissa Johnson does not even live in Seattle FuzzyRabbit Aug 2015 #15

I live in the Seattle area pugetres Aug 2015 #27

They include #FreePalestine here. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #87

When people refer to Seattle they generally include the outlining areas as well The empressof all Aug 2015 #92

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #17

Just a suggestion... bobclark86 Aug 2015 #37

You're probably right. Old Crow Aug 2015 #42

The golden age of the internet. snort Aug 2015 #168

I remember when I attended protest group meetings in the 60's there were always a few people who jalan48 Aug 2015 #18

Given human nature, it would be extremely unlikely for BLM *not* to contain winter is coming Aug 2015 #21

And it is likely those people were working for the FBI zeemike Aug 2015 #38

"Not Enough" aikoaiko Aug 2015 #20

it's all I got. cali Aug 2015 #22

Sorry for the snark. I figured you'd get the reference. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #26

I liked the reference and yeah it's sad cali Aug 2015 #28

The people involved were clearly more interested in getting attention skepticscott Aug 2015 #23

This action silenttigersong Aug 2015 #30

this wasn't his rally and there were several minority speakers cali Aug 2015 #31

I will believe they are a viable movement Pharaoh Aug 2015 #79

You're strategy assumes that they have someone in charge swilton Aug 2015 #34

They didn't apologize. HooptieWagon Aug 2015 #113

You're much nicer than I am cali romanic Aug 2015 #32

I think immature is a key word in this case cali Aug 2015 #33

I am a Black LIBERAL and totally behind Bernie. Someone is sure steering BLM LoisB Aug 2015 #36

Exactly peacebird Aug 2015 #47

^^This^^ Pharaoh Aug 2015 #86

This idea that the Clintons have super powers is getting interesting. yardwork Aug 2015 #148

This is approximately silenttigersong Aug 2015 #39

that doesn't excuse this. cali Aug 2015 #40

Exactly. LoisB Aug 2015 #89

I agree #christiantaylor TNProfessor Aug 2015 #41

it's counterproductive. they need.white liberal allies cali Aug 2015 #45

if that... TNProfessor Aug 2015 #51

not what I said. you do realize that one can oppose systemic racism cali Aug 2015 #53

I have. TNProfessor Aug 2015 #55

they did that. obviously. you know that one of the cali Aug 2015 #65

Well said, Cali. onecaliberal Aug 2015 #95

thanks and thanks again. cali Aug 2015 #111

We are talking about a murderous police force Pharaoh Aug 2015 #83

I'm a Tennesssean. Hello. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #97

Yeah, do give us a post... ljm2002 Aug 2015 #48

I will. I remember that they went after O'M. TNProfessor Aug 2015 #54

Fine. I understand... ljm2002 Aug 2015 #63

You dont support the guy in your avatar? Pharaoh Aug 2015 #90

What about offending the R candidates? Listen, Bernie is one who cares. One who can change things peacebird Aug 2015 #50

So go after Bernie? awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #119

Well said. Gman Aug 2015 #43

This kind of sucking up does no good at all. nt Depaysement Aug 2015 #46

I'm hardly sucking up. cali Aug 2015 #49

Does anyone else smell a ratfuck? backscatter712 Aug 2015 #52

I made a similar argument in another thread Depaysement Aug 2015 #60

A candidate like Bernie mudstump Aug 2015 #72

Are you sure this was the real BLM? backscatter712 Aug 2015 #99

Dirty tricks are an American tradition. mountain grammy Aug 2015 #78

All publicity is good publicity Baadger Aug 2015 #122

One of the two women is obviously a member of the Seattle chapter of BLM. No "ratfuck" at all! George II Aug 2015 #173

If you're talking about Marissa Janae, the new news says she was a Sarah Palin groupie. backscatter712 Aug 2015 #185

Thanks Cali. in my letter I would ask them why they see Bernie as a white supremacist liberal? jwirr Aug 2015 #56

I think they know his background cali Aug 2015 #59

I wonder what they really hope to achieve with that kind of white liberal baiting? ananda Aug 2015 #57

I think they wanted to provoke something video-worthy. winter is coming Aug 2015 #102

Hmm.. none of this is rational. However ... ananda Aug 2015 #143

Black lives will always matter to me... HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #58

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #62

I just wish the crowd hadn't booed them when they did. pnwmom Aug 2015 #64

the crowd was amazingly restrained. the activists were not. cali Aug 2015 #66

I Was Booing The Loudest - Get Off The Stage Yallow Aug 2015 #105

What did you want them to do? Aplaud them? 840high Aug 2015 #117

Thankfully Trump is eating up all the media air time. SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2015 #67

not this way they don't.And I bet it won't happen again cali Aug 2015 #69

I don't think he will hire security. SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2015 #116

you can't have that kind of situation. it's dangerous. cali Aug 2015 #118

Hopefully the mainstream activists of BLM will intervene. N/T SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2015 #174

Definitely turned off me, kacekwl Aug 2015 #68

A bully is a bully and they come in all colors n/t flamingdem Aug 2015 #74

My sentiments exactly. Chemisse Aug 2015 #82

Duh Yallow Aug 2015 #107

After seeing their actions today I have come to the following opinion The empressof all Aug 2015 #85

Probably right. mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #140

They are the left's Donald Trump. I do hope wiser minds will control. And I do understand her kelliekat44 Aug 2015 #91

K & R AzDar Aug 2015 #93

They are to be commended. sellitman Aug 2015 #96

fail. not all attention is good. calling Bernie.a white supremacist,screaming, shoving, cali Aug 2015 #98

They have provided the left sellitman Aug 2015 #166

There are a lot of better ways to get attention. progressoid Aug 2015 #101

Wrong. To paraphrase Daniel537 in post 13, sammythecat Aug 2015 #157

Well, once again Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #104

"Funny that this guy felt that kind of shit belonged here." You mean it doesn't?? Number23 Aug 2015 #124

Yeah, they're coming out of the woodwork Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #155

I'm so glad you are back Cali you always cut to the chase Ichingcarpenter Aug 2015 #120

thanks for those kind words. good to see you. cali Aug 2015 #141

I am not a supporter of any BLM sub group who is a self proclaimed radical notadmblnd Aug 2015 #128

Found this picture in GD: How not to treat your allies beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #129

Dear Marissa, Betty Karlson Aug 2015 #130

You don't call a man whose father's family was wiped out in the Holocaust a white supremacist. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #132

Thank you. Those disruptors just showed their extreme ignorance. Bernie has Nay Aug 2015 #170

They don't want to be fooled again. raouldukelives Aug 2015 #134

Notice the Fruits of this Disruption McKim Aug 2015 #144

Angry, Hurt, Scared. Lunabell Aug 2015 #147

Agreed all around. n/t nomorenomore08 Aug 2015 #196

Notice the Fruits of this Dispruption: They Accomplished Their Goals! McKim Aug 2015 #149

They aren't BLM, they are a group called Outside Agitators 206 Lunabell Aug 2015 #152

It's possible for them to be both. n/t winter is coming Aug 2015 #156

Great to see you back! BeanMusical Aug 2015 #176

I am not an ally of those that screamed on the stage. lark Aug 2015 #180

Looks like the Bernie haters on here have run for cover. jalan48 Aug 2015 #182

they're consoling each other after someone got blocked for accusing Sanders supporters MisterP Aug 2015 #190

I wonder if the loudest voices that have been hifiguy Aug 2015 #192

You'd hope so but they really don't like Bernie. jalan48 Aug 2015 #193

K&R! Catherina Aug 2015 #197

hey, Cat. so good to see you cali Aug 2015 #198