2016 Postmortem

passiveporcupine

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135. I'm not sure it's a critical thinking shortage

Mon Aug 10, 2015, 04:25 PM

Aug 2015

I think some people are using it as a cudgel to advance their game by shutting down Sanders with the only real weapon they can find at their disposal right now.

I see them blaming Bernie for attacks to shut him down. Jesus wept!

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I have every right to criticize the BLM Sanders disruptors [View all] DerekG Aug 2015 OP

I've been looking for a candidate like Bernie since the '60's. Paka Aug 2015 #1

A FB friend of one talked about throwing a "sheep dog's" bone to distract Sanders until too late. TheBlackAdder Aug 2015 #76

One of them seems to have a history of rrooting for Kariboo Barbie. Betty Karlson Aug 2015 #88

Hell yes you do. And NO ONE has the moral authority to tell you otherwise. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2015 #2

Agree with the message, but criticize the tactics? That makes you a "liberal white supremacist". cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #3

For me disagreeing with the tactics makes a lot of sense. From the beginning of slavery the white jwirr Aug 2015 #124

Yep. Fuck the saboteurs. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #4

You're damned right you do! And I'm with you all the way. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #5

so BLM is to be blamed for the outcome of his campaign? bigtree Aug 2015 #6

Yes, someone talking about economic reform, climate change and systemic racism jeff47 Aug 2015 #9

toot, toot! bigtree Aug 2015 #10

Better than the Hillary train with all its bankers. EEO Aug 2015 #14

okay bigtree Aug 2015 #21

Damn right. 840high Aug 2015 #60

Well in Hillary's defense her train does have all the luxury cars. Now who can afford a ticket? n/t A Simple Game Aug 2015 #71

Right! Bubzer Aug 2015 #80

My concerns don't outweigh their concerns CanonRay Aug 2015 #11

+1 Bubzer Aug 2015 #81

Except Bernie is not their enemy. By any stretch of the imagination. senz Aug 2015 #32

More likely the outcome of the election AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #41

You know I think they may have had the opposite effect in motivating Sanders supporters more! cascadiance Aug 2015 #83

Indeed! I made my first contribution to him BuelahWitch Aug 2015 #96

I don't think anyone is saying their concerns outweigh those of BLM activists. cyberswede Aug 2015 #48

They are certainly expecting their concern and their demanded fix mythology Aug 2015 #51

"why can't they just accept that your concerns outweigh their own" Just STOP IT. sibelian Aug 2015 #57

substitute BLM train for Bernie Train 2pooped2pop Aug 2015 #75

The OP is specifically about the disruptors. It was what, two or thrree people? arcane1 Aug 2015 #77

so arsonists are to be blamed for the fire they start? Martin Eden Aug 2015 #89

i criticized the Willie Horton Ads. Downwinder Aug 2015 #7

that's just so odd, that Hillary isn't defending Bernie on this HFRN Aug 2015 #8

Not too surprising. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #12

I am shocked, I tell you, shocked! BeanMusical Aug 2015 #17

and he defended her today restorefreedom Aug 2015 #33

+1 Bubzer Aug 2015 #82

Good Hillary didn't defend Obama against Muslim charges in 2008. senz Aug 2015 #38

She was too busy awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #63

jeez. even mccain defended him on that restorefreedom Aug 2015 #84

imo- her one goal in life is 840high Aug 2015 #61

She won't defend him awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #62

She'll want to wait and see which way the wind blows. Betty Karlson Aug 2015 #90

Yeah you do but your white guilt is supposed to make you shut up Catherina Aug 2015 #13

Funny that they don't get after the black people in power... truebrit71 Aug 2015 #15

Noticed the same thing. And no vigil, no protests in front of the White House? Catherina Aug 2015 #18

"He's old and white and male and stuff! He reminds me of icky things!" sibelian Aug 2015 #58

it's the same sort of "activism" that easily gets very ugly and mobbish MisterP Aug 2015 #20

I've seen enough of that right here at DU hifiguy Aug 2015 #24

Serious question Turin_C3PO Aug 2015 #102

it's a nickname for someone who says men have it worse in all aspects MisterP Aug 2015 #120

Ah I know the type. Turin_C3PO Aug 2015 #134

YES THE FEDORAS MisterP Aug 2015 #137

I hate that they'ev tried to co-opt fedoras. Turin_C3PO Aug 2015 #138

I'd suggest reading Strauss's "The Game" about this subculture of guys who see MisterP Aug 2015 #139

I love that picture. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #22

No. But intense hatred makes straight paths go crooked. senz Aug 2015 #37

it takes critical thinking skills to see the difference Skittles Aug 2015 #64

I'm not sure it's a critical thinking shortage passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #135

Who said anything about black people oppressing white people? romanic Aug 2015 #39

Why would you love that picture? Bubzer Aug 2015 #91

Because black people aren't oppressing white people. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #93

So, then you would excuse one wrong because its not as big as another? Bubzer Aug 2015 #94

I'd enjoy white tears if I was her, too. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #99

And you'de still be in the wrong. Bubzer Aug 2015 #103

So those protesting racism are racist. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #107

Wearing a racist shirt is not a valid form of protesting. Bubzer Aug 2015 #111

I would agree with you Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #125

Well, thats progress at least. Bubzer Aug 2015 #126

Pain and suffering? Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #128

Yes, pain and suffering. That's ussually what causes tears. Bubzer Aug 2015 #131

Protesting racism with racism? AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #127

I see no racism from her. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #129

Read her shirt AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #130

Apparently Obama is not on their side or they would be going to him instead of... L0oniX Aug 2015 #28

I'm glad you're back Catherina...great post! nt haikugal Aug 2015 #31

Thank you for posting this davidpdx Aug 2015 #54

How is she not drinking milk? n/t BB1 Aug 2015 #70

I am GLAD you are posting here again! n/t BuelahWitch Aug 2015 #101

Anyone who would wear that shirt . . . brush Aug 2015 #105

Kick and R BeanMusical Aug 2015 #16

It's looking more and more like a hit job, less and less like a political movement. Maedhros Aug 2015 #19

That's really the point Hydra Aug 2015 #30

You know, I'm beginning to wonder what's really going on. lark Aug 2015 #34

Hillary might not do this, bvar22 Aug 2015 #47

I could believe that. Bubzer Aug 2015 #92

AT this point, with no proof either way. lark Aug 2015 #108

This is by far the sanest and most worthwhile thread here hifiguy Aug 2015 #23

The disrupters only set back their cause big time. Owl Aug 2015 #25

"disrupters" = pro oligarchy tools. L0oniX Aug 2015 #29

I agree MissDeeds Aug 2015 #26

I don't think Bernie was hurt by this. backscatter712 Aug 2015 #27

Not if you hear Hillary supporters here talk about it. passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #136

Good post DerekG and yes there is a lot that needs to be done and not a lot of time. haikugal Aug 2015 #35

Keep doing that shenmue Aug 2015 #36

Damn straight! romanic Aug 2015 #40

Add the possibility of being killed in a basic traffic stop. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #42

We get how totally horrible that is whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #53

We have a rift in our party. Indydem Aug 2015 #43

I am sorry but this is BS Mojorabbit Aug 2015 #45

Fiscally liberal? Indydem Aug 2015 #98

Ah, so now in addition to being white supremacist we are dumb davidpdx Aug 2015 #55

I did not call you dumb. Indydem Aug 2015 #100

So, Trump's your man, then? Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #104

If you have to tell us how much smarter you are son, TM99 Aug 2015 #109

From the post I responded to: Indydem Aug 2015 #112

You are still lecturing and pretending TM99 Aug 2015 #113

I live in a world where people demand change davidpdx Aug 2015 #140

I do agree there's a tremendous rift in the party right now stranger81 Aug 2015 #56

BINGO Skittles Aug 2015 #65

"Bernie Sander and his ilk" LeftOfWest Aug 2015 #67

You heard the echo of the lingo of the McCarthy era? Babel_17 Aug 2015 #73

Ilk is a word. Indydem Aug 2015 #95

Obviosly I know what it means Babel_17 Aug 2015 #121

Joe Biden is now a go to guy for curtailing the police? Babel_17 Aug 2015 #72

There is a line. Indydem Aug 2015 #97

If you think Joe Biden would come off well when confronted by BLM ... Babel_17 Aug 2015 #122

Unbelieveable bullsh*t that socialism isn't is viable economic system. One need only snagglepuss Aug 2015 #106

Scandanavia is a capitalist model. Indydem Aug 2015 #110

Where do you get this nonsense? You seem to be confusing Socialism with Communism. snagglepuss Aug 2015 #115

Perhaps you don't know or understand what socialism is. Indydem Aug 2015 #117

Socialism is a broad term. On its most basic level, it describes systems snagglepuss Aug 2015 #132

Thanks for posting this. MelungeonWoman Aug 2015 #44

Absolutely! BLM's tactics have been mean-spirited and asinine. NaturalHigh Aug 2015 #46

Exactly. Sanders is our ONLY HOPE of stopping the sinking ship that is the middle class Triana Aug 2015 #49

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #50

You can criticize them, they deserve it GitRDun Aug 2015 #52

K/R 840high Aug 2015 #59

new movement John Crock Aug 2015 #66

I don't believe that the Seattle "BLM" protesters John Poet Aug 2015 #68

Great post. Vinca Aug 2015 #69

What was the ultimate intent? Babel_17 Aug 2015 #74

You mean the BLM Infiltrator Activists. Not the real ones. nt valerief Aug 2015 #78

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #79

"No impediments from Obama and the odious Clintons"? DanTex Aug 2015 #85

+1 Jamaal510 Aug 2015 #141

Unfortunatly the lie that Bernie Sanders has an African American problem is spreading IokuA Aug 2015 #86

I take back my comment olddots Aug 2015 #87

Instresting Truprogressive85 Aug 2015 #114

A "true" Progressive understands that economic and racial justice are intertwined. Maedhros Aug 2015 #118

Funny you mention malcom x huh Truprogressive85 Aug 2015 #119

I don't disagree. I've seen plenty of wishy-washy white liberals. Maedhros Aug 2015 #123

Agent provocateurs or brainless schmucks? ejbr Aug 2015 #116

Apparently, my "role" as a white woman Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #133

This thread is a strawman. Jamaal510 Aug 2015 #142