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In reply to the discussion: Why I DON'T support Bernie for President [View all]MaggieD
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+1000. Tota;;y bu;;shit hides. Brought to you by the Milk and Cookies for Bernie
R B Garr
Aug 2015
#686
"Huge numbers of his supporters come off as racist, white privileged elitists." n/t
Dawgs
Aug 2015
#3
yes. when i came back on the board, after kicked off, my comment is... you are welcome.
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#19
The only thing wrong with that is that he has NOT "been helping you for 50 years"
George II
Aug 2015
#391
Unfortunately, decriminalizing homosexuality is hardly a clarion call for LGBT civil rights,
AlbertCat
Aug 2015
#633
Now, HE is a supporter Senator Sanders would be proud to have in his court, imo...
Spazito
Aug 2015
#97
+1. but then, i have heard the same from a handful of sanders supporters on du, i respect so
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#130
Jay Smooth on HRC's last run: "If you were going to make you would have by now"
aikoaiko
Aug 2015
#162
What does that video have to do with the legitimate concerns sonderwoman raised?
DemocratSinceBirth
Aug 2015
#475
I thought this is the subthread where we post stupid JaySmooth videos because she did.
aikoaiko
Aug 2015
#481
No fucking shit. I have sat here watching so called supporters of my guy, Bernie,
randys1
Aug 2015
#388
"and after this is pointed out to them OVER AND OVER again, they DOUBLE DOWN!"
Number23
Aug 2015
#420
Oh my God!! He actually said "What have you done for me lately??!"He must have read my OP
Number23
Aug 2015
#323
He is right. The supporters remind of that bumper sticker I see Oh Lord save me from your followers
lunasun
Aug 2015
#329
you are gonna have to start using puma for sander supporters. i have not seen one clinton supporter
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#389
But the hillarians invented that term for themselves. as for your first sentence,
Doctor_J
Aug 2015
#396
doesnt matter. it was a small group and had to do with a whole lot of other. you applying it to
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#401
The PUMAs were an inconsequential handful of chest-thumpers who didn't live up to their threat...
brooklynite
Aug 2015
#424
personally, i didnt pay attention in '08. supporting obama. doctorj though likes using it repeatedly
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#428
no. i did not pay much attention to the drama and trauma of your puma that shakes you in your boots
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#442
Oh please, like we'd vote for Scott Walker? Come on, too much is at risk, as usual for Dems.
YOHABLO
Aug 2015
#556
Because the OP talks about why the author supports Hillary rather than Bernie.
JDPriestly
Aug 2015
#487
It was the gravamen of your post. As another poster mentioned, "you got yours, so...meh." nt
Romulox
Aug 2015
#16
I'm sure it had nothing to do with Clinton's come to Jesus meeting with the Dems a few weeks back.
frylock
Aug 2015
#440
What is particularly telling is the lack of endorsements out of the Progressive Caucus. n/t
1StrongBlackMan
Aug 2015
#489
Yeah, I "got mine" and waited another 15 years for a smattering of civil rights
MaggieD
Aug 2015
#10
The important thing is to pull up that ladder! Let's defend the haves against the have nots! nt
Romulox
Aug 2015
#11
You were never amenable to Bernie's message. Yours is a series of excuses for doing
Romulox
Aug 2015
#75
Hillary is one of the most privileged white people in America. As are many of her supporters. nt
Romulox
Aug 2015
#228
Because the notion that you gave up caring about inequality because of some rude tweets is absurd.
Romulox
Aug 2015
#225
Air Porcine Flight #B-3RNI3 Reporting that we're seeing other porcine flying
Picking Dem
Aug 2015
#108
Be patient, this is very hard to explain to people... the investment firms BECAME banks so they...
uponit7771
Aug 2015
#425
Did you actually read what he wrote? LOL...you need to inform yourself it seems, this isn't solely
mother earth
Aug 2015
#512
And you think Hillary, who is to the right of, well, everyone else running for the Democratic
Ikonoklast
Aug 2015
#362
PUMA meant Party Unity My Ass. It was adopted by the Clintonians of 2008 who objected to
Doctor_J
Aug 2015
#488
"I am leaning toward not." tehn you be the the puma, not all those you accuse of.....
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#502
wow. why dont you make it as insulting to the girl as you can? no surprise. score? da puma.
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#519
I think heaven just called you a bigot, or maybe just an out-of-touch liberal
hueymahl
Aug 2015
#185
Wouldn't this post be more aptly titled "Why I support Hillary Clinton"?
cherokeeprogressive
Aug 2015
#22
so if he does become the candidate are you saying you won't vote or you'll for some other party?
azurnoir
Aug 2015
#68
and what would that be. a handful not vote sanders? do not expect it. not a single clinton
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#402
You cite part of the problem "unqualified support" for Hillary. Since when does any free-thinker
erronis
Aug 2015
#51
You demand qualification for Bern, but no qualification necessary for Hill? Weird.
Ed Suspicious
Aug 2015
#132
She is a Washington insider, status quo preserving, $2700/plate candidate. If you have $2700
GoneFishin
Aug 2015
#523
Agree. And this pollution is what they want to do. Stuff the airwaves with their junk.
erronis
Aug 2015
#52
Gosh Maggie, how do you rationalize support for legitimizing Brunei as a favored partner even as
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2015
#32
Helping Brunei become a more civilized country will do more than doing nothing. Sorry.
Hoyt
Aug 2015
#39
Brunei is a very wealthy country now, with many holding in the United States.
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2015
#48
My guess is, if Brunei were not an issue, you'd come up with something else to oppose TPP and
Hoyt
Aug 2015
#58
Stoning gay people to death is not a valid issue to you? Jesus. I countered your view and now you
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2015
#585
"a guy who has lots of ivory is less likely to hurt Stampy than a guy whose ivory supplies are low.”
Romulox
Aug 2015
#78
Well he is running as a Democrat perhaps if he wasn't they wouldn't be out there soliciting....
Historic NY
Aug 2015
#175
He has always caucused with the democrats. A lot of us aren't democrats. Edited
Autumn
Aug 2015
#181
Are you aware it's not required to be a democrat to be a member and not being a democrat
Autumn
Aug 2015
#210
yes. they are having a cutsey little alert party on maggies post. all up and down the thread.
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#453
i cannot say what i think of this behavior, in so many ways, cause it would be an inevitable hide.
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#459
Our EarlG is British. As much as I loved the Beatles, he is the best British invasion.
Autumn
Aug 2015
#465
we will do what dems do and vote dem. we realize the importance of keeping repugs out, unlike
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#405
Hillary has been running for president since she and Bill left the White House.
Autumn
Aug 2015
#177
he has a 1 billion youth job program. do you see where the institutional racism comes in that plan?
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#60
are you saying his plan calls for better jobs for White youth or for Asian youth or what?
azurnoir
Aug 2015
#71
so you recognize the institutional racism. blacks are last hired, first fired. an unlevel playing
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#83
i very specifically answered your question. sanders plan show NO mention of income exclusions.
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#144
i read strongblackmans couple links. that was not in there a couple months ago, and
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#668
it is just not that often our candidates blatantly show us their weakness as sanders is doing. nt
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#149
from my view the conversation started with sanders and undecided camp trying to make him stronger.
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#227
but then, you never really addressed the institutional racism in his plan, either.
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#204
I said there was not any institutional racism it is other who claim his youth program/collage plans
azurnoir
Aug 2015
#216
so, you do not see the unlevel playing field that poc experience in the hiring and firing with jobs?
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#232
so? unless the playing field is consciously leveled out, you do not feel that the federal govt has
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#285
that does not work for me. that should work for no one. there should not be a struggle insisting
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#298
ah so your saying we should "level the playing field" before implementing any plan
azurnoir
Aug 2015
#332
what level of inclusiveness would you prefer? BTW the bill was coauthored by John Conyers
azurnoir
Aug 2015
#563
interesting response now you claim helping youth get into the job market will not help
azurnoir
Aug 2015
#595
so you're saying this program will give poor white youth better jobs than poor Black youth because
azurnoir
Aug 2015
#603
exactly which was why I put the qualifier "help" in the comment you linked to
azurnoir
Aug 2015
#637
Now I get to consider whether you are being intentional avoidant, unintentionally obtuse, or ...
1StrongBlackMan
Aug 2015
#653
I won't reply to your every reiteration of this error in your observation
passiveporcupine
Aug 2015
#599
Before you call me in error, perhaps you should be/get better informed ...
1StrongBlackMan
Aug 2015
#613
someone once said Clinton's harlem office wasn't in a real black area because it wasn't the ghetto
JI7
Aug 2015
#542
I am not a Hillary supporter but the knee-jerk "But Hillary!!1!11!!" response
BumRushDaShow
Aug 2015
#679
link that they will not vote white male or that anyone called snaders a racist.
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#418
The people bailing from Bernie because his supporters are mean to them seem limited..
frylock
Aug 2015
#215
my first time voting white privileged son is bailing cause he is now dating a feminist girl. lol
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#242
Certainly no more than are moving the other way because of Hillary's supporters halting Medicare
Doctor_J
Aug 2015
#517
Guess BofA, Wells and Citibank didn't need a huge BAILOUT after all.....
Spitfire of ATJ
Aug 2015
#229
Well, the whole financial sector needed bailing out, but what precipitated that
DanTex
Aug 2015
#254
What does Glass-Steagall have to do with the selling of AAA rated instruments that weren't?
DanTex
Aug 2015
#383
I half expect the next bit will be claiming the Housing Crisis was Barney Frank's fault.
Spitfire of ATJ
Aug 2015
#590
No, that's never meant what people think it means. Google "fractional reserve banking"
Recursion
Aug 2015
#650
Everyone knows there's an effort right now to mimimize the effect of the repeal of Glass Steagall...
Spitfire of ATJ
Aug 2015
#651
what is it with a thread of men all of a sudden yelling PUMA. everyone run scared. that would be
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#409
I was looking for his legislative accomplishments but was unable to find it. I guess with only....
George II
Aug 2015
#520
Glass-Steagall wouild have prevented the secujritization of mortgages . . .
markpkessinger
Aug 2015
#104
And I have a sibling of mine who used to work at Countrywide and subsequently at BofA...
cascadiance
Aug 2015
#141
Don't expect anything more reasoned or nuanced than an imbecilic battle cry n/t
whatchamacallit
Aug 2015
#115
yes. correct. some people are going to support sanders. some people are not gonna be impressed with
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#167
They're coming out of the woodwork and descending on ALL liberal/Democratic sites
BlueCaliDem
Aug 2015
#656
i read an OP by a libertarian, griping that if not allowed to criticize about benghazi or the emails
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#667
So you were concerned that 15-years ago "I still couldn’t marry my partner", but you "like" Clinton
PoliticAverse
Aug 2015
#166
"ANY GLBT person... can tell you that economic security does not confer civil rights"
Politicub
Aug 2015
#199
At first, until you explained it, I thought your OP good but harsh. Then I thought about your son,
freshwest
Aug 2015
#359
oh the irony of you saying that after penning the op, is delicious. cognitive dissonance,
cali
Aug 2015
#218
sander supporter making video, hart a sanders supporter are having conversation about sanders
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#265
Um, yes they are. You have been, specifically, on your current disastrous thread. nt
Romulox
Aug 2015
#246
she stated out reasons. you started an op of name calling and ... the end. you dont see a difference
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#250
as she deals with sexism and misogyny thru out her career. even sanders has made that point and
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#471
It's not fear at all. It's total disgust at the RW points dragged around by people who call
misterhighwasted
Aug 2015
#355
It's hilarious how the majority of DU's most conservative posters "used" to support Bernie.
Romulox
Aug 2015
#233
There's nothing he could do to earn your support, either. So there's no use in pretending. nt
Romulox
Aug 2015
#241
Not before, either. You didn't stop caring about inequality after NN; you never started. nt
Romulox
Aug 2015
#251
ya. sanders will get us 15 an hour nationally, single payer, free college, break up the banks.....
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#306
You know its truthy because they all back up the conversion stories with me-too's and high-fives
MoveIt
Aug 2015
#509
"watching desperate, bitterly disappointed Clinton supporters" you are simply wrong.
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#281
if I'm wrong about Sanders... then I'd campaign just as hard for Sanders in the fall election
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#293
"He believes the same thing every arrogant clueless white privileged person believes."
cyberswede
Aug 2015
#337
You believe Bernie Sanders would be "certainly no better" than Trump, Jeb or Romney? n/t
PoliticAverse
Aug 2015
#381
He believes the same thing every arrogant clueless white privileged person believes.
passiveporcupine
Aug 2015
#619
As for you calling me a racist white privileged elitist, nothing could be farther from the truth.
Dont call me Shirley
Aug 2015
#302
No, you called me a RACIST white privileged elitist. I know what white privileged means.
Dont call me Shirley
Aug 2015
#339
You called EVERY Bernie supporter a racist white privileged elitist! That includes me!
Dont call me Shirley
Aug 2015
#346
"4. Huge numbers of his supporters come off as racist, white privileged elitists."
Dont call me Shirley
Aug 2015
#350
Bernie has huge numbers of support that doesn't mean all could be 10%, that's still big ...
uponit7771
Aug 2015
#450
TPTB are attacking Bernie on his strengths, starting with Civil rights, just like Max Cleland.
Dont call me Shirley
Aug 2015
#612
RE: TPP, it allows other countries to organize into unions. Where is this stated?
mother earth
Aug 2015
#326
This is not part of the TPP as it stands. Perhaps you should read policy before being accepting.
mother earth
Aug 2015
#507
You're arguing against Bernie's plan for two years of free college because it's
raindaddy
Aug 2015
#327
Point #1 is completely on the mark - lots of complaints and critiques, but not a SINGLE solution...
George II
Aug 2015
#384
A lot can be done without a progressive congress... Prosecuting banksters for one thing!
cascadiance
Aug 2015
#593
yea!!! right zora? jury jury jury until we can shut women up. something to cheer, right?
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#434
it is about a large majority shutting up the minority voice. bravenak, gift, maggie....
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#455
not even kinda true. they do not overturn hides, period, the end. doesnt matter if it is fair or not
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#469
i hope you started at zero hides maggie, cause they are on your ass. i am so sorry about that.
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#447
I feel the same way about BS.. Mahalo for Brilliantly getting this down in an OP, Maggie
Cha
Aug 2015
#466
The emails issue is political at best seeing all the other SOS did something SIMILAR and not ONE of
uponit7771
Aug 2015
#659
You have given up pretending that these bullcrap memes are not purely a political strategy
GoneFishin
Aug 2015
#525
You should check out FDR and Harry Truman, see how they match with Bernie
KelleyKramer
Aug 2015
#549
Thank you, I really was wondering but now I can see that it is all based on falsehoods.
Live and Learn
Aug 2015
#554
Good post, Maggie and reflects why Hillary is leading in the polls with 78% of Dems supporting her.
leftofcool
Aug 2015
#564
Same thing could be said if it had the same number of views, and no replies from Sanders supporters
Babel_17
Aug 2015
#581
I understand he says, the same things he always has, but we need him heard in the D primary
Sunlei
Aug 2015
#576
I'd like to see just who these people are, , these "huge numbers" of "Racists".
Ikonoklast
Aug 2015
#577
It's a bullshit political strategy to try to close peoples minds to Bernies message before they hear
GoneFishin
Aug 2015
#580
Excellent OP, MaggieD. And don't get all too frustrated. We know that the GOP
BlueCaliDem
Aug 2015
#657