2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Why I DON'T support Bernie for President [View all]108vcd
(91 posts)Personally, I have no-doubt in my mind, that if Hillary won in 08, we would have a Republican in office right now
I literally have no idea what she personally stands for, at a core level...it's certainly not apparent
Her donor list tells me who she will be working for in comparison to Bernie
In my mind, she is quite a bit to the right of Obama....at best, will just slightly slower the rate of the Oligarchy that is forming versus a Republican candidate
Obama proved to be a disappointment in some ways, but at-least he fought hard, and won some battles, made some incremental change in some ways, and pushed for some monumental change in other ways.....he has a compass that isn't just based on polling..
As for the BLM issue, black americans tend to be single issue voters, who don't self-describe themselves as "liberals" or "progressives" with the same percentages as whites, they certainly don't participate much in issues that don't directly effect them (which is probably due to in-part to not being afforded the same time)...including ironically being a thorn in the fight for lgbt equality....that being said, I agree with the underlying intention of BLM and I agree that black americans shouldn't just be expected to vote Democrat because they are the lesser of 2 evils...they have a right to expect to be courted, and they have and are making that point....l hope they don't just pick on the softest target though....
Their treatment of Sander's though, wouldn't be acceptable to them if it were the other way around, and nobody would do that to them either...
As of now, I will vote for Bernie, despite knowing that Clinton most likely will get the nod because she is the establishment candidate, O'Malley would be second in-line, and would probably be the most effective at getting things done simply because he will have less personal opposition than either Sanders or Clinton. If Clinton wins, I will vote Green Party in NY, like I did in 12, as it won't help get a Republican elected.