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2016 Postmortem

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sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 12:09 PM Aug 2015

"if that is your position then I will talk only to white people..." [View all]

I have now seen this partial quote disingenuously used here on DU many times.

Here's the whole quote:

Activist speaking:

"If you don't tell black people what we need to do, then we won't tell you all what you need to do," he told Clinton. "This is and has always been a white problem of violence. There's not much that we can do to stop the violence against us."


Clinton's response:

"Respectfully, if that is your position, then I will talk only to white people about how we are going to deal with the very real problems," Clinton replied.


As you can see,the activist is telling her that racism is a white problem,that white people need to be talked to about it.

I've read the responses on Black Twitter and many activists in Black Lives Matter,none of them are taking this partial quote out of context and accusing her of making a racist comment.In fact,if you google the partial quote,it's being used almost exclusively on right wing blogs.

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I'll kick this. Agschmid Aug 2015 #1
Ahhh . . . her awkward phrasing is a problem brush Aug 2015 #2
Listen/read the whole exchange. Agschmid Aug 2015 #3
I was in the middle of editing my post when you responded brush Aug 2015 #6
And discussing this isn't easy, nor should it be. seabeyond Aug 2015 #9
"You have to admit that's sounds exclusionary" sufrommich Aug 2015 #7
Guess you didn't read the rest of my post brush Aug 2015 #11
It didn't sound exclusionary to me passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #42
Are you kidding? She knocked it out of the park. Larry Wilmore on Nightly Show was impressed Hortensis Aug 2015 #60
"None of our leading candidates is or ever was a racist." ALL our leading candidates are privileged jtuck004 Aug 2015 #26
Not much you can do about the racism the author of that article was talking about. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #41
Thought Provoking Post. bvar22 Aug 2015 #51
I could think of a thousand easy ways to make a real impact, just starting in the schools. jtuck004 Aug 2015 #57
"f a thousand easy ways to make a real impact" JDPriestly Aug 2015 #61
Tell the Texas schools they aren't going to teach that black lives don't matter by minimizing jtuck004 Aug 2015 #63
Besides, she is spot on Android3.14 Aug 2015 #4
LOL ... I don't think she meant what you heard based on the "whitesplaining" part. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #35
Her response sounds like she was frustrated.. whathehell Aug 2015 #5
I agree. However this could be her "47%" statement TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #69
Possible, although I doubt it.. whathehell Aug 2015 #70
if have always said. christians need to speak up with christian community. men need to speak up seabeyond Aug 2015 #8
Yeah, that idiot aide that rushed them . . . brush Aug 2015 #18
Very good post. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #27
your first sentence jd. i totaly disagree. i think we often hear not only flat out racism seabeyond Aug 2015 #29
I live in California. I don't hear it in the social groups I belong to. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #45
Right on! GitRDun Aug 2015 #34
had Bernie said that, no matter the context, the shitstorm of outrage from Hillary supports cali Aug 2015 #10
Absolutely. The deliberate and blatant mischaracterization and the double standard applied to both GoneFishin Aug 2015 #12
It's the same thing with OWS and Clinton was right. randome Aug 2015 #13
what i have learned in the social justice battle, is... i cannot speak for those, i dont experience seabeyond Aug 2015 #15
It IS fascinating. randome Aug 2015 #16
this is why we need a strong social justice advocate. and where i was having an issue with the seabeyond Aug 2015 #17
And I really think the GOP is on its way off the stage. randome Aug 2015 #19
yes yes... yes yes YES seabeyond Aug 2015 #20
OWS is morphing into feeling the Bern. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #23
I'd say laws are more important than hearts. randome Aug 2015 #40
where i think it is important, what the man might have been continuing saying, as i see it from seabeyond Aug 2015 #46
Especially since the BLM activist immediately responded... Oilwellian Aug 2015 #28
Exactly. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #58
Agreed jfern Aug 2015 #71
Spin, spin, spin... Watch her demeanor when she says it whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #14
What's she got to be "testy" about? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #24
Well that's what her staffer was indicating whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #49
One of the oldest tricks in the book is to have your secretary claim you have to go. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #50
But if she were a man she would have been decisive. dsc Aug 2015 #44
No, a man would have appeared just as defensive n/t whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #48
right dsc Aug 2015 #53
Can't speak for others whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #56
Where's the video? sibelian Aug 2015 #21
Racism against black people is a white problem. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #22
No, it isn't at all. sibelian Aug 2015 #31
Don't let them think it's okay with your silence.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #33
It's everyones problem. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #43
If somebody doesn't want to be part of the solution mythology Aug 2015 #25
Forcing the issue into the national conscience is useful. HubertHeaver Aug 2015 #66
Interesting that the right have picked up on it. sibelian Aug 2015 #30
Context is good passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #32
Better yet, watch the video nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #36
I'm going to do that...thanks passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #47
Body language is important nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #55
She uses her hands in a very aggressive way at times passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #59
Yup nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #62
Even without the text of the extended exchange ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #38
Sometimes Hillary speaks too quickly maindawg Aug 2015 #37
Nice moonwalk! Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #39
I have a thread up on The Nightly Show take on it. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #52
dont believe the video, believe the Thought Leaders MoveIt Aug 2015 #54
This is my focus - #BlackWealth #BlackLegacy #BlackExcellence underthematrix Aug 2015 #64
K&R Jamaal510 Aug 2015 #65
Thank you mcar Aug 2015 #67
Thank you for the whole quotes, su. of course rw are tying to spin this negatively with their usual Cha Aug 2015 #68
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