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JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
27. Very good post.
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 03:00 PM
Aug 2015

The problem is that only very rarely to white racists express their racism to white people.

Once I was standing in line om front of a white guy at a political event attended mostly by non-white people. The white guy behind me started talking to me about why he was supporting a candidate (local politics) who was white. Seems he was from the South. I will say no more. That was the only chance I can remember in the last ten years in which anyone dared to express racist sentiments to me EVEN THOUGH OR MAYBE BECAUSE I AM WHITE.

That is the conundrum. How do we identify and then reach racists when we live apart from them. I live in a very mixed community. Years ago an African-American moved in behind us. We always talked to him. On one occasion we had a disagreement about the trimming of a tree, but we were always friends. Suddenly, he told us that someone had put racist notes on his door telling him he did not belong in our neighborhood. That was utterly ridiculous. He was not the only African-American in the neighborhood (although other neighbors may not have realized that) and besides, our neighborhood in California is utterly mixed racially. But the notes got worse and worse. He was virtually forced to move. We never could figure out who was behind this horrible behavior. I suspect the people may not have been white themselves.

But those are two rare instances in the past 20 years in which we had the opportunity as white people to speak out against racism when it could have mattered. In the first instance, I scolded the racist behind me. He became silent, but I don't think I changed his mind. Maybe I surprised him a bit. Maybe he thought about it. I don't know. In the second case, we did not know what to do. Should we have canvassed the neighbors to find out who was writing the nasty notes? I don't know. Could we have changed someone's mind? I don't know.

But I do know that I do not know what to do about this. And it troubles me very much.

I do know what to do about police brutality. The cameras will help. Having judicial review of every instance of a death beating or even complaint about police treatment of suspects and inmates in police custody will help. Establishing stringent ethical standards and requiring constant training of police on race and the use of violence issues will help. National standards on police conduct will help. That's where I would begin with police abuse of power.

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I'll kick this. Agschmid Aug 2015 #1
Ahhh . . . her awkward phrasing is a problem brush Aug 2015 #2
Listen/read the whole exchange. Agschmid Aug 2015 #3
I was in the middle of editing my post when you responded brush Aug 2015 #6
And discussing this isn't easy, nor should it be. seabeyond Aug 2015 #9
"You have to admit that's sounds exclusionary" sufrommich Aug 2015 #7
Guess you didn't read the rest of my post brush Aug 2015 #11
It didn't sound exclusionary to me passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #42
Are you kidding? She knocked it out of the park. Larry Wilmore on Nightly Show was impressed Hortensis Aug 2015 #60
"None of our leading candidates is or ever was a racist." ALL our leading candidates are privileged jtuck004 Aug 2015 #26
Not much you can do about the racism the author of that article was talking about. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #41
Thought Provoking Post. bvar22 Aug 2015 #51
I could think of a thousand easy ways to make a real impact, just starting in the schools. jtuck004 Aug 2015 #57
"f a thousand easy ways to make a real impact" JDPriestly Aug 2015 #61
Tell the Texas schools they aren't going to teach that black lives don't matter by minimizing jtuck004 Aug 2015 #63
Besides, she is spot on Android3.14 Aug 2015 #4
LOL ... I don't think she meant what you heard based on the "whitesplaining" part. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #35
Her response sounds like she was frustrated.. whathehell Aug 2015 #5
I agree. However this could be her "47%" statement TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #69
Possible, although I doubt it.. whathehell Aug 2015 #70
if have always said. christians need to speak up with christian community. men need to speak up seabeyond Aug 2015 #8
Yeah, that idiot aide that rushed them . . . brush Aug 2015 #18
Very good post. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #27
your first sentence jd. i totaly disagree. i think we often hear not only flat out racism seabeyond Aug 2015 #29
I live in California. I don't hear it in the social groups I belong to. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #45
Right on! GitRDun Aug 2015 #34
had Bernie said that, no matter the context, the shitstorm of outrage from Hillary supports cali Aug 2015 #10
Absolutely. The deliberate and blatant mischaracterization and the double standard applied to both GoneFishin Aug 2015 #12
It's the same thing with OWS and Clinton was right. randome Aug 2015 #13
what i have learned in the social justice battle, is... i cannot speak for those, i dont experience seabeyond Aug 2015 #15
It IS fascinating. randome Aug 2015 #16
this is why we need a strong social justice advocate. and where i was having an issue with the seabeyond Aug 2015 #17
And I really think the GOP is on its way off the stage. randome Aug 2015 #19
yes yes... yes yes YES seabeyond Aug 2015 #20
OWS is morphing into feeling the Bern. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #23
I'd say laws are more important than hearts. randome Aug 2015 #40
where i think it is important, what the man might have been continuing saying, as i see it from seabeyond Aug 2015 #46
Especially since the BLM activist immediately responded... Oilwellian Aug 2015 #28
Exactly. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #58
Agreed jfern Aug 2015 #71
Spin, spin, spin... Watch her demeanor when she says it whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #14
What's she got to be "testy" about? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #24
Well that's what her staffer was indicating whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #49
One of the oldest tricks in the book is to have your secretary claim you have to go. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #50
But if she were a man she would have been decisive. dsc Aug 2015 #44
No, a man would have appeared just as defensive n/t whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #48
right dsc Aug 2015 #53
Can't speak for others whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #56
Where's the video? sibelian Aug 2015 #21
Racism against black people is a white problem. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #22
No, it isn't at all. sibelian Aug 2015 #31
Don't let them think it's okay with your silence.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #33
It's everyones problem. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #43
If somebody doesn't want to be part of the solution mythology Aug 2015 #25
Forcing the issue into the national conscience is useful. HubertHeaver Aug 2015 #66
Interesting that the right have picked up on it. sibelian Aug 2015 #30
Context is good passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #32
Better yet, watch the video nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #36
I'm going to do that...thanks passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #47
Body language is important nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #55
She uses her hands in a very aggressive way at times passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #59
Yup nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #62
Even without the text of the extended exchange ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #38
Sometimes Hillary speaks too quickly maindawg Aug 2015 #37
Nice moonwalk! Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #39
I have a thread up on The Nightly Show take on it. Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #52
dont believe the video, believe the Thought Leaders MoveIt Aug 2015 #54
This is my focus - #BlackWealth #BlackLegacy #BlackExcellence underthematrix Aug 2015 #64
K&R Jamaal510 Aug 2015 #65
Thank you mcar Aug 2015 #67
Thank you for the whole quotes, su. of course rw are tying to spin this negatively with their usual Cha Aug 2015 #68
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