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1. So, is Bernie running for POV or POTUS?

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One reason Vermont has a low black population. [View all] Qutzupalotl Aug 2015 OP

So, is Bernie running for POV or POTUS? leftofcool Aug 2015 #1

POTUS. But you knew that. Qutzupalotl Aug 2015 #2

Then what does Vermont's past have to do with anything? leftofcool Aug 2015 #3

Because Bernie was criticized for having a mostly-white crowd Qutzupalotl Aug 2015 #4

And since Burlington, how diverse have those crowds been? leftofcool Aug 2015 #6

increasingly diverse, but still not enough. I'd like to see more diversity cali Aug 2015 #19

Not as diverse as they'd be without the whisper campaign. Qutzupalotl Aug 2015 #27

exactly cali Aug 2015 #40

well obviously .... TheFarS1de Aug 2015 #46

Aren't you special? leftofcool Aug 2015 #64

LOL! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #66

Sad artislife Aug 2015 #22

Sanders wasn't born in Vermont, he chose Vermont. George II Aug 2015 #33

And Vermonters chose him. Qutzupalotl Aug 2015 #34

Bernie was intrigued by the affordability of the land in Vermont according to the NYT PotatoChip Aug 2015 #36

And why was that, George? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #38

so? what is your point? cali Aug 2015 #41

The OP is trying to convince us that it's not Sanders' fault that Vermont is about the least.... George II Aug 2015 #61

So fucking what? My dad was a NYer who moved to VT too. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #62

disgusting and fail cali Aug 2015 #67

He's getting more desperate and is finally showing his true colours. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #68

yes, it is. given the opportunity he just couldn't resist; bernie is a racist who cali Aug 2015 #73

NOT true. The first time that he's been "documented" as a resident of Vermont..... George II Aug 2015 #89

It's ridiculous HerbChestnut Aug 2015 #70

He moved? Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #100

uh, he gets criticized quite a bit for being from Vermont cali Aug 2015 #7

thanks. it's more than that though. Many and perhaps most vermonters cali Aug 2015 #5

Great post! Catherina Aug 2015 #12

thanks, Cat. I think people just don't know much about the state save cali Aug 2015 #17

Thank you, and you're right. Qutzupalotl Aug 2015 #30

Vermont is no colder than Michigan which has a large minority population. Weather is hardly a virgogal Aug 2015 #28

Vermont was never an industrial center. it has no cities. neverhas cali Aug 2015 #29

Michigan had lots of industrial jobs at one point irisblue Aug 2015 #32

Vermont just likes its what? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #42

despicable isn't it? cali Aug 2015 #43

Unbelievable. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #44

And they have the temerity to accuse Sanders supporters of being cali Aug 2015 #45

Vermont was not the center of the auto industry with a lot of jobs to jwirr Aug 2015 #53

I hope no one alerts on your post demwing Aug 2015 #71

+1 cali Aug 2015 #75

Thank you for calling them out. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #79

You might want to check the definition of slander. virgogal Aug 2015 #90

How about I commend them for calling out your lousy smear? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #97

Vermont had no industrial jobs Kurska Aug 2015 #82

Research indicates that a good deal of those can be attributed to the lack of diversity mythology Aug 2015 #65

Thank you. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #8

no shit. we're not perfect but the meme that cali Aug 2015 #9

I didn't meet a white supremacist until I moved to the south. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #10

It's really weird but living all over the East Coast... Chan790 Aug 2015 #11

That is weird. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #15

Thanks, I didn't know that. Zorra Aug 2015 #13

Why is your OP titled like it going to give sufrommich Aug 2015 #14

I retitled my post. Qutzupalotl Aug 2015 #31

So, just to be clear, you're saying the reason Vermont is Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #16

I think the op just mistitled her post cali Aug 2015 #18

I'm a he Qutzupalotl Aug 2015 #25

Perhaps decent employment being found long before reaching Northern New England PotatoChip Aug 2015 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author Qutzupalotl Aug 2015 #23

My state never had Black slavery. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #21

Vermont is white because.... nichomachus Aug 2015 #24

Thank you, excellent point. Qutzupalotl Aug 2015 #26

Exactly. matt819 Aug 2015 #35

Be careful... HerbChestnut Aug 2015 #69

The lack of slavery meant few blacks jfern Aug 2015 #37

Yes, though, imo, blacks moved north to industrial jobs, heavy and light, mostly in large cities. HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #50

Constituent demographics are irrelevant to higher office musiclawyer Aug 2015 #39

Ever hear of migration? BainsBane Aug 2015 #47

Minnesota has cities. Vermont doesn't. cali Aug 2015 #48

No shit. They just won't quit with the racism claims, will they? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #51

Vermont used to be a liberal darling on DU, now the saintly clinton cali Aug 2015 #55

They're never going to rebuild these bridges. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #57

Do these people look at their own Candidate 4Q2u2 Aug 2015 #81

Great point. Thank you! (nt) PotatoChip Aug 2015 #95

What would they all do in Vermont, milk cows? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #52

Pro-immigration and domestic migration are two different things jfern Aug 2015 #54

My post is responding to the OP BainsBane Aug 2015 #59

Vermont is mostly rural farms jfern Aug 2015 #63

Wow, what an interesting fact! Thanks. nt valerief Aug 2015 #49

I never saw anyone say that Vermont was exclusionary frazzled Aug 2015 #56

I have. including in this thread cali Aug 2015 #60

See post 28 up thread demwing Aug 2015 #72

Well, that's pretty weak broth frazzled Aug 2015 #88

Vermont also has the honor of being the only state Daniel537 Aug 2015 #58

So, what is the reason that Vermont has a low black population? Recursion Aug 2015 #74

The assumption seems to be that it's because they banned slavery earlier gollygee Aug 2015 #76

no. you are mostly wrong. cali Aug 2015 #84

as many people have noted, historically Vermont is a rural state with no industrial centers cali Aug 2015 #77

That's plausible, the OP just didn't make any argument at all for why Recursion Aug 2015 #78

please see my post #84. cali Aug 2015 #85

They made a movie about it too but I forgot the name of it. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #86

it was based on Howard Mosher's novel, A Stranger in the Kingdom cali Aug 2015 #87

I thought it was because black people were smart enough not to spend winter in Vermont liberal N proud Aug 2015 #80

What an empty opening post. It's says there's a reason VT is mostly all white KittyWampus Aug 2015 #83

+1, I guess my mind is too simplistic. ChazII Aug 2015 #91

here you go. The Great Migration cali Aug 2015 #92

Thank you, cali. ChazII Aug 2015 #93

you're welcome. I wish more people cali Aug 2015 #94

I would like to move up there. Turin_C3PO Aug 2015 #96

it's not too bad in some areas cali Aug 2015 #98

Ben and Jerry are both white. All them dudes from Phish? White, white, white. Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #99

I'm proud of Vermont's history. FarPoint Aug 2015 #101

Thank you, FarPoint. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #102

My son goes to school there... FarPoint Aug 2015 #103

A very good friend is a graduate. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #104

He loves NECi... FarPoint Aug 2015 #106

It is, my friend went on to a great career. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #107

Especially when they walk down the hill to La Brioche Cafe and Bakery at ,5 am... FarPoint Aug 2015 #108

Wait til it's -20! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #109

As a native Oklahoman ymetca Aug 2015 #105