2016 Postmortem

magical thyme

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77. I live rurally, I don't have tv or cable, I spend too much time on DU

Tue Aug 25, 2015, 04:34 PM

Aug 2015

and when I'm not crashing and burning (on DU), I'm working or taking care of my home.

I read about things on DU, follow the links, read the articles.

I'm just this summer starting to have more time off. I've been more focussed on surviving -- hanging by a thread really -- for the last 5 years, than anything else.

I only broke down and got high speed internet last year, when I swapped out my landline for a tracfone.

I pretty much do boycott much of media, especially mainstream. The only print newspaper I get is a local, free weekly. I do occasionally see other newspapers at work, but still pretty small and rural.

Since I moved up here (rural Maine), the only POC I see are mostly at work because I don't socialize at all.

I fell out of "normal" society 15 years ago when my career crashed and burned. I've never really found my way back in and now I have no desire to.

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Is Bernie taking a cue from Hillary? [View all] MaggieD Aug 2015 OP

Several weeks ago someone here posted SheilaT Aug 2015 #1

So, listening to voters is bad now? leftofcool Aug 2015 #2

Anything that HRC says, does, or don't do or say is BAD. Iliyah Aug 2015 #5

Yep. I see that. leftofcool Aug 2015 #14

see my post #4. Bernie is doing far more listening cali Aug 2015 #7

You are really silly and do not know of Hillary's continuous Town Halls. riversedge Aug 2015 #68

you mean the ones with the pre-screened questions, cali Aug 2015 #84

Give me your references please. riversedge Aug 2015 #94

No. But needing to go out on a listening tour because SheilaT Aug 2015 #11

Like I said, Hillary listens, Bernie rants and raves. leftofcool Aug 2015 #13

baloney. she pontificates. And her listening tour is with wealthy donors. cali Aug 2015 #15

No, it really isn't MaggieD Aug 2015 #20

cool questionseverything Aug 2015 #35

Because I don't want my friend harrassed by Bernie supporters MaggieD Aug 2015 #37

I'll buy THAT for a dollar! (laughter) cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #156

The very fact that Clinton needs a listening tour short circuit Aug 2015 #24

Why is it embarrassing? To who?? She listens to the people at her Town Halls! Now it seems riversedge Aug 2015 #72

She has no clue on what's going on in the heartbeat of America short circuit Aug 2015 #149

Hillary listens.. frylock Aug 2015 #89

I guess it doesn't occur to you ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #29

Exactly MaggieD Aug 2015 #38

+1 leftofcool Aug 2015 #45

Come on, Nance ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #69

Yes, he grew up in Brooklyn ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #111

How could this politically insensate criticism not be applicable to ANY candidate? sibelian Aug 2015 #238

I wasn't "leveling" anything at Sanders. NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #241

And there have been post after OP, lamenting, mocking and deriding HRC's use of polling ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #63

Bernies been doing this since even before he decided to run. bunnies Aug 2015 #3

I haven't criticized her for not holding big rallies. cali Aug 2015 #4

/\_/\_This right here_/\_/\ Scuba Aug 2015 #235

I am actually really surprised that he asked *is this true?* and Raine1967 Aug 2015 #6

Yes, it is unsettling MaggieD Aug 2015 #18

I can listen to omalley and he has the 'tells' that he gets women's issues. seabeyond Aug 2015 #30

I agree. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #39

Yes. My concern day one. Hence walking away. Being provided omalley stuff and saying... seabeyond Aug 2015 #44

Well, the group is really meant to be as informational as possible. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #79

and you all excel. nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #82

Video of Bernie from 2012 proving he "gets it": beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #95

as long as we do not expect sanders to hold our hand. yes. i listened to 2012 a couple months ago seabeyond Aug 2015 #99

Women don't want a man to hold our hand, we want a feminist who has always fought for us. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #103

ya. asking he speak up for planned parenthood is holding womens hands. got it. now done. seabeyond Aug 2015 #108

Nope, Bernie has been fighting for women for decades, just like lgbt people and poc. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #112

Tsk Tsk leftofcool Aug 2015 #123

Tut tut. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #124

those questions didn't bother me at all... magical thyme Aug 2015 #64

+1 cali Aug 2015 #147

Perhaps ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #80

Maybe? Raine1967 Aug 2015 #83

Noted. I have quite serious misgivings about Hillary, due to her quite COGNIZANT djean111 Aug 2015 #8

It's unconstitutional to put someone in jail as a result of his or her inability to pay a fine. Vattel Aug 2015 #9

and yet it happens. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #26

You are right that it happens. And it is disgusting when it does. Vattel Aug 2015 #195

I wasn't sure if you posted that it does indeed happen regardless of constitutionality Raine1967 Aug 2015 #196

Yes, I see your point. In defense of Bernie, one has to keep in mind Vattel Aug 2015 #215

Cool. I am not trying to dissuade you of your support. I want to make that clear. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #234

peace to you too. One thing I really do hope Vattel Aug 2015 #236

You had no idea that this happens all the time- it was spotlighted in coverage of Ferguson. Jeeze. bettyellen Aug 2015 #57

No, I was already aware of the issue. Vattel Aug 2015 #194

Apparently "real people" have to go through an intense screening process n/t eridani Aug 2015 #10

This IS flamebait. Agschmid Aug 2015 #12

It really isn't.... MaggieD Aug 2015 #16

lol. cali Aug 2015 #19

Why personally attack the messenger? MaggieD Aug 2015 #22

And it's your job to tear him down? Agschmid Aug 2015 #23

I think it is a huge factor in choosing a nominee MaggieD Aug 2015 #41

Pretty sure this won't be an issue with Bernie... Agschmid Aug 2015 #48

Well see I DO care if he is just learning about.... MaggieD Aug 2015 #56

Because I know he will do something about it. Agschmid Aug 2015 #67

oh you mean how out of touch Hillary was when she talked cali Aug 2015 #49

She DID leave the WH dead broke MaggieD Aug 2015 #52

omg. presidents leave the WH with people falling all over themseves cali Aug 2015 #76

That's weird, I thought being dead broke she must have lived in a friends broken van Dragonfli Aug 2015 #102

it's so insulting. I hope things are better for you now. cali Aug 2015 #106

I'm not homeless now, but since I broke my body working too long Dragonfli Aug 2015 #180

I'm glad things have improved. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #182

Having no money or a home MaggieD Aug 2015 #120

no it really isn't. seriously, Maggie, do you actually not understand cali Aug 2015 #129

What a wonderful display of empathy. frylock Aug 2015 #224

Being Millions in debt.... MaggieD Aug 2015 #121

Your comparison of millionaires to a once homeless person is disgusting. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #122

They were not millionaires - they were millions in debt MaggieD Aug 2015 #127

THEY ARE AND THEY WEREN'T LIVING IN A VAN LIKE THE POSTER YOU COMPARED THEM TO. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #128

your comment on this subject are a complete denial of reality cali Aug 2015 #134

I'm bookmarking it. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #146

good. it's sickening. cali Aug 2015 #159

You are wasting your time, Maggie. leftofcool Aug 2015 #126

do you really not understand how disingenuous and morally offensive cali Aug 2015 #141

shame on you. just shame. cali Aug 2015 #131

For what? Not calling her a liar when she was telling the truth? MaggieD Aug 2015 #136

she was factual, not truthful. cali Aug 2015 #155

everyone knew exactly what clinton was saying. they walked out of the wh broke.... in debt. seabeyond Aug 2015 #164

Bullshit she didn't. Here's the exchange: beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #167

"her attempt to look like she related to struggling people?" cali started with this. she started seabeyond Aug 2015 #171

It is a disgusting subthread because it shows how far some will go to support Hillary. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #173

Sea, Sea, Sea, leftofcool Aug 2015 #198

So you're okay with what Maggie said about Campaign Zero shilling for Bernie? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #203

unfuckingbelievable. cali Aug 2015 #175

Then surely, homelessness like us mere mortals was involved, missed meals too Dragonfli Aug 2015 #133

The accusation is that she was not dead broke.... MaggieD Aug 2015 #135

It is just numbers on paper to them, numbers that appear to have grown considerably Dragonfli Aug 2015 #148

I don't believe that is true at all MaggieD Aug 2015 #150

So you do not believe she has accumulated great wealth and think she is still "broke" Dragonfli Aug 2015 #152

No, I don't believe it wasn't stressful to be millions in debt MaggieD Aug 2015 #153

Keep digging. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #154

what part of a 2 million dollar estate, unlimited earning potential, a sizeable pension, cali Aug 2015 #158

She borrowed for her home just like anyone else MaggieD Aug 2015 #161

People living in vans can't borrow millions for a home. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #163

you really, truly don't get it. They aren't like everyone else cali Aug 2015 #174

Why the personal attack MaggieD Aug 2015 #179

it is not a personal attack. if you prefer I'll change it to cali Aug 2015 #184

I DO understand MaggieD Aug 2015 #186

it is always less stressful knowing you have a safety net. that simpler cali Aug 2015 #190

I don't think that's true MaggieD Aug 2015 #193

They could always have filed bankruptcy, sold Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #227

Please enlighted me. When was Slick Willie "kicking republican ass"? Passing the end to Welfare? Vincardog Aug 2015 #187

SCHIP, lowering interest rates so.... MaggieD Aug 2015 #188

since you seem incapable of responding to actual questions Ignore is my friend Vincardog Aug 2015 #192

He kicked their ass AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #220

I used to maximize my meals by pouring a can of soup over some rice when I was dead broke.. frylock Aug 2015 #137

I lived on ramen noodles. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #139

ten for a buck frylock Aug 2015 #140

I bet they don't even know what food costs at a grocery store. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #142

The same! (or sometimes beans in the rice with a flavor cube instead of soup) Dragonfli Aug 2015 #160

you can have any opinion you wish. cali Aug 2015 #25

It's not funny. This is what Sanders should have learned from Ferguson if he'd been paying attention bettyellen Aug 2015 #34

what was needed is the 200 bucks to pay the fine questionseverything Aug 2015 #42

That is a band aid on a bigger issue- jailing people for parking tickets! Disturbing to see it's bettyellen Aug 2015 #47

i am not aurguing to support this system questionseverything Aug 2015 #71

Nope- the constitutional issue is greater- and would be a quicker fix than waiting for people to bettyellen Aug 2015 #115

i swear i read here on du that blm was upset that sanders was concentrating on financial matters questionseverything Aug 2015 #229

I'm obviously not laughing about that. cali Aug 2015 #43

How do you distort Sanders saying he had no idea? Seriously?!! bettyellen Aug 2015 #53

I'm sorry but that one clip does not support your claim cali Aug 2015 #60

It does on some level... Agschmid Aug 2015 #70

Thank you. It's unreal the flat out denial of ANY flaws that goes on. bettyellen Aug 2015 #101

"... he suggested Mike Brown needed higher education". What was the context? Link? GoneFishin Aug 2015 #199

yes it is. And hardly the first from the op. cali Aug 2015 #17

It's not clever enough to be flame-bait n/t arcane1 Aug 2015 #130

Looks like Hillary should be taking a cue from Bernie and Martin: beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #21

"Campaign Zero" needs to do more research MaggieD Aug 2015 #36

So they're either ignorant or working for Bernie? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #40

unbelievable. And you have the gall to lecture Sanders supporters about BLM cali Aug 2015 #46

She just let the mask slip. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #51

It would seem hootinholler Aug 2015 #61

I thought some of them might criticize Campaign Zero but to accuse them of this... beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #75

just stunned. short circuit Aug 2015 #85

I can't believe others in this thread aren't calling her out over this. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #91

of course not. HYPOCRISY writ large. cali Aug 2015 #107

6 recs is as close to "shunning" as they'll get MoveIt Aug 2015 #183

I'm not running to win a popularity contest MaggieD Aug 2015 #240

Just trying to give HRC supporters some credit MoveIt Aug 2015 #242

that happened long ago. you most have missed cali Aug 2015 #87

I probably did. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #88

Who thinks they actually believe the shit they post? MoveIt Aug 2015 #177

They should have a contest. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #178

garbage in, garbage out frylock Aug 2015 #97

Campaign Zero is astroturf built by Bernie? hootinholler Aug 2015 #55

I think it's a subset of Bernie supporters MaggieD Aug 2015 #58

Not my job to explain anything to you hootinholler Aug 2015 #62

Why do you feel the need to personally attack me.... MaggieD Aug 2015 #73

I'm not attacking you hootinholler Aug 2015 #81

please post any evidence that your attack on black activists has any connection to reality. cali Aug 2015 #113

What attack on Black Activists? MaggieD Aug 2015 #117

uh, you theorized that they're astroturf for Bernie's campaign. that is an ugly attack cali Aug 2015 #165

So you think that AA are not smart enough to create an accurate chart? GoneFishin Aug 2015 #200

So point out the inconsistencies in their chart, if you'd be so kind. frylock Aug 2015 #98

way to double down, trashing black activists for purely political reasons, mags cali Aug 2015 #109

So the Campaign ZERO Ferguson activists don't know what they are talking about? virtualobserver Aug 2015 #65

Educate yourself: Campaign Zero: A 'Blueprint for Ending Police Violence' beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #92

talk like that would have you labeled as insensitive to their plight.. frylock Aug 2015 #96

it is insensitive. cali Aug 2015 #110

It is troubling, but I'm glad he appears to be listening and ecstatic Aug 2015 #27

what on earth is troubling about that video? cali Aug 2015 #28

That a man of his age and experience was that out of touch. ecstatic Aug 2015 #31

How is it possible he didn't already know this? Control-Z Aug 2015 #32

That's what I'm saying.... MaggieD Aug 2015 #33

Probably most of them don't know magical thyme Aug 2015 #54

I actually never read about it on DU. Control-Z Aug 2015 #205

I think Bernie has done this his whole career... magical thyme Aug 2015 #50

You didn't see anything about the DOJ Ferguson report.... MaggieD Aug 2015 #59

I live rurally, I don't have tv or cable, I spend too much time on DU magical thyme Aug 2015 #77

You don't even know about Campaign Zero and you're claiming others don't know about Ferguson? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #104

Where did you get the idea I don't know who Campaign Zero is? MaggieD Aug 2015 #116

From your post #36 where you called them clueless shills for Bernie, where else?: beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #119

In reading the comments--it seems that SC Bernie fans do not know that Hillary does Town Halls riversedge Aug 2015 #66

I guess they don't know that.... MaggieD Aug 2015 #74

they have also read that she coaches and plants questions in the crowd virtualobserver Aug 2015 #78

Give me a freakin break RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #86

no, this is NOT flamebait left-of-center2012 Aug 2015 #90

Your post makes it pretty obvious you haven't been listening to Bernie for the last decade tech3149 Aug 2015 #93

Video of Bernie speaking at SCLC in July: beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #100

Why are you concerned about it at all? sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #105

Clue? Nope, not a one. MuseRider Aug 2015 #114

This is goofy. I'll bet if you asked HRC if she knew about CDOs and tranches, libdem4life Aug 2015 #118

Welcome back Gothmog Aug 2015 #125

On the positive side GitRDun Aug 2015 #132

Seems like a pretty big issue MaggieD Aug 2015 #143

I'm sure glad Sanders has stopped hobnobbing with the wealthy... Armstead Aug 2015 #138

He could have known about this issue..... MaggieD Aug 2015 #144

You are distorting a lifetime of work on these issues because of a few holes of knowledge about... Armstead Aug 2015 #157

He IS doing his job MuseRider Aug 2015 #169

You have serious misgivings because he can't be on top of everything? No one in that video had ancianita Aug 2015 #145

I think it's a huge issue for him to be clueless about, yes MaggieD Aug 2015 #151

Know why they're more aware than he? Because they are not out there running a campaign. ancianita Aug 2015 #162

Bernie Sanders is stupid and uninformed and doesn't know or care about issues Armstead Aug 2015 #166

You should add the sarcasm smilie or the alerters will get your post hidden. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #168

I hope the sarcasm is so obvious it doesn't need Armstead Aug 2015 #170

Well I'm hoping any jurors will read my response to you and see through any attempt to hide it. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #172

Never said that MaggieD Aug 2015 #185

If he didn't listen or care, he would have cashed in long ago Armstead Aug 2015 #189

^^^ THIS ^^^ beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #191

Actually if he cared about others opinions.... MaggieD Aug 2015 #206

whatever Armstead Aug 2015 #212

oh to be a fly on the wall MoveIt Aug 2015 #204

I got the vid off a Bernie supporter FB page MaggieD Aug 2015 #208

thanks! MoveIt Aug 2015 #211

What's "ridiculous on its face" ??? MaggieD Aug 2015 #213

How about your claim that Campaign Zero is astroturfing for Bernie? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #216

I answered others on that MaggieD Aug 2015 #219

Where did you back up your claim? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #221

" Is Bernie taking a cue from Hillary?" MoveIt Aug 2015 #217

I disagree MaggieD Aug 2015 #218

They had lots of time to create it. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #209

When I'm not on time out for daring to criticize Bernie.... MaggieD Aug 2015 #222

Sure, lol! That's why your posts were hidden, for "criticizing" Bernie. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #223

I didn't have any prior to that MaggieD Aug 2015 #225

No hidden posts? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #226

Nope - not a single one MaggieD Aug 2015 #230

And none of your posts "criticizing" Bernie deserved to be hidden? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #231

Nope MaggieD Aug 2015 #232

LMAO!!! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #233

lol. unbelievable. cali Aug 2015 #239

That's a MAJOR current issue MaggieD Aug 2015 #181

I like the way Hillary is handling her campaign, by having townhall meetings, she is able to hear Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #176

No, he isn't a weather vane AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #197

Have any come right out and said it? HassleCat Aug 2015 #201

That's not the issue here MaggieD Aug 2015 #202

OK, but you said he apparently got clued in HassleCat Aug 2015 #207

He said it - not me MaggieD Aug 2015 #210

oh maggie wendylaroux Aug 2015 #214

BWAHAHAHA! hootinholler Aug 2015 #228

"I have a right to have an opinion".... sibelian Aug 2015 #237

Wyclef Jean, Canibus - Gone Till November MoveIt Aug 2015 #243

Oh, don't mind me Capt. Obvious Aug 2015 #244