2016 Postmortem

Garrett78

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175. Well, no. It's quite evident that we don't all agree. But nice try.

Thu Sep 10, 2015, 02:27 PM

Sep 2015

Nice cop-out. But let's try this again. First I'm told I was wrong about what the article said. Then I quote the article to show that I'm not. Then I'm told quoting the article is redundant. So, I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't.

Instead of telling me I'm wrong and instead of offering up more cop-outs, why don't you actually address the matter at hand. Why don't you explain how this Thx box (with its household products and pink outfit) doesn't promote gender stereotypes. Or how it doesn't reinforce the notion that mass marketing of consumer products is perfectly suitable to a campaign for POTUS. Do tell.

While you're at it, you can address Clinton's ties to Beacon Global Strategies, Monsanto, Burson-Marsteller, Corrections Corporation of America, etc., etc., etc. Or the points raised here: http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/29052-five-reasons-no-progressive-should-support-hillary-clinton

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Hillary's attempt to solidify support among women is amusingly sexist, [View all] cali Sep 2015 OP

That is just weird. No thanks, I will stick with Bernie. n/t djean111 Sep 2015 #1

That is the first word that popped into my head, too. dorkzilla Sep 2015 #3

You don't like Hillary, that must mean you're sexist NightWatcher Sep 2015 #2

And I could give a shit what household products Hillary's domestic staffs cali Sep 2015 #4

Yeah, I have to wonder what all-purpose cleaning solution is Hillary's favorite. frylock Sep 2015 #23

Well, we know she wipes things with a cloth. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #116

She's starting to sound like Martha Stewart. passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #43

Bernie will strike back with Brill Cream and Old Spice HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #5

fUNNY silenttigersong Sep 2015 #11

, animalvet Sep 2015 #46

That has -possibilities- n/t HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #48

Indeed. animalvet Sep 2015 #51

Possibilities that are already being explored :) arcane1 Sep 2015 #54

LOVE, LOVE IT!! animalvet Sep 2015 #63

That brings back memories. zeemike Sep 2015 #61

I loved JackInGreen Sep 2015 #108

in before all the other Tom Waits fans... 0rganism Sep 2015 #171

Old Spice? Srsly? cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #74

Millennials apparently love old spice. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #88

Yep my son uses Old Spice body wash and believe me it is an upgrade from Axe. I think he mostly seaglass Sep 2015 #106

hai karate Doctor_J Sep 2015 #134

LOL! Art_from_Ark Sep 2015 #147

looks like Lee tergesen Doctor_J Sep 2015 #148

Remember his age. it's Old Spice. hedda_foil Sep 2015 #174

Vitalis. Brill Creme is much too modern jberryhill Sep 2015 #101

Soliciting single-issue voters. silverweb Sep 2015 #6

This might be appealing to 0 issue voters jfern Sep 2015 #55

Nothing but the "girls' club" appeal. silverweb Sep 2015 #94

Yes, I might love to see a woman as president and jwirr Sep 2015 #124

Absolutely! silverweb Sep 2015 #136

Wait a minute, she is giving away household items and branded products? Bjorn Against Sep 2015 #7

you forgot mitts magical undies? elehhhhna Sep 2015 #52

I don't think Mittwit was giving those away. hifiguy Sep 2015 #121

he tried. no takers. elehhhhna Sep 2015 #196

I thought this was a joke at first glance silenttigersong Sep 2015 #8

it's pathetic. cali Sep 2015 #9

Thanks a LOT! hootinholler Sep 2015 #14

What the fuck? azmom Sep 2015 #10

it's so tone deaf hilly. cali Sep 2015 #12

and on top of all the other things Mnpaul Sep 2015 #73

I wonder if she'll be selling this stuff on the late night infomercials BuelahWitch Sep 2015 #13

Maybe not, but SNL should hedda_foil Sep 2015 #188

Your link is broken. You should fix it. Bonobo Sep 2015 #15

How insulting in_cog_ni_to Sep 2015 #16

And that's it in a nutshell. cali Sep 2015 #18

I would personally consider hosting a ladies tea for Hilly if she gave me an XBox roguevalley Sep 2015 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author sarge43 Sep 2015 #42

To me, she is sending the wrong message. animalvet Sep 2015 #17

Yes, us women are all about cleaning and women's jwirr Sep 2015 #126

They'll also get nichomachus Sep 2015 #19

snicker. nichomachus, you are so bad. ;) roguevalley Sep 2015 #27

Her own "private" (but not classified!) recipe. RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #33

Wut? hifiguy Sep 2015 #122

Hold on a sec... I totally have to pin this! demmiblue Sep 2015 #20

Very reminiscent of Labor's "Barbie Bus" nichomachus Sep 2015 #21

... and ponies! demmiblue Sep 2015 #24

Bitstrips is still a thing? frylock Sep 2015 #22

Sounds like something the Romney campaign would've tried. "Branding" is in essence a deception arcane1 Sep 2015 #25

If it is as you suggest then the support Hillary currently receives from women should be declining, still_one Sep 2015 #28

I didn't know about this. Planning to volunteer for her with or without the products. Great idea! Laser102 Sep 2015 #49

Srsly? Household products? The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2015 #29

Well she damn well better not send me anything that causes wax build up dflprincess Sep 2015 #56

I'd like a new set of steak knives. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2015 #58

Let's hope that box comes with a pkg of baby diapers. passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #77

Since she had that flap about "staying home and baking cookies..." thesquanderer Sep 2015 #164

Sanders takes pride in no silly attacks on HRC just focusing on policy differences oberliner Sep 2015 #30

It's not Sanders' policy to send gift baskets of hand creams to female voters Scootaloo Sep 2015 #35

Maybe he could send driving gloves Mnpaul Sep 2015 #50

Don't forget the Berniestocks and lattes. neverforget Sep 2015 #89

Don't forget the Lemon Pledge AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #128

I am not Bernie Sanders and I don't think criticizing this is silly. cali Sep 2015 #92

Clearly not oberliner Sep 2015 #93

you're not so innocent yourself when it comes to criticizing sanders cali Sep 2015 #99

I love Bernie Sanders and would proudly vote for him for POTUS oberliner Sep 2015 #102

I'm willing to bet Sanders thinks this gift box crap is stupid. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #120

Probably oberliner Sep 2015 #129

Cuz Hillary's supporters are pure as the driven snow AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #131

Definitely not - but this site is about 90/10 Bernie supporters oberliner Sep 2015 #132

This is a non-policy issue that actually is worthy of discussion. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #150

Wait..wait! Isn't the Guardian a well known RW rag?? Is Hillary going to be its Covergirl? Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #31

Nope, but it doesn't necessarily represent how the majority of American women feel about Hillary still_one Sep 2015 #32

Correct. The actual article is the USA Today link; the Guardian link is opinion about that n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #40

This has got to be the Onion, right? tularetom Sep 2015 #34

I was sure it was the Onion. 840high Sep 2015 #80

Unf*cking believeable.... Indepatriot Sep 2015 #36

Next up - a Tupperwear party, n/t sarge43 Sep 2015 #37

If this whole presidenting thing doesn't work out hootinholler Sep 2015 #38

I agree, it is kind of sexist. retrowire Sep 2015 #39

Free lemon pledge and Oil of Olay? AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #41

OK, I'll say it: bvf Sep 2015 #44

So as a white women I am being too hard on Hillary. Really? Skwmom Sep 2015 #45

What is Hillary's Campaign Thinking! Sounds like "The Onion"..but, it's Real! KoKo Sep 2015 #47

I was going to vote for Bernie. Old Crow Sep 2015 #53

That's awful....ugh! Marketing herself with a house party? OMG! haikugal Sep 2015 #57

Ugg. I speak zentrum Sep 2015 #59

What a coincidence Gman Sep 2015 #60

Ain't going to work with my single, divorced, widowed neighbors... SoapBox Sep 2015 #62

omg, please say it ain't so. 2banon Sep 2015 #64

I have a penis and I ordered one of the boxes postatomic Sep 2015 #65

Here's a great use for it! Bonobo Sep 2015 #67

I always enjoy this video. senz Sep 2015 #79

What's next, Jews for Bernie? thesquanderer Sep 2015 #66

Already here. MADem Sep 2015 #151

Again, I don't have an issue with the concept... thesquanderer Sep 2015 #163

It doesn't bother me at all. Freedom of Religion doesn't mean Freedom FROM Religion. MADem Sep 2015 #172

Sure, Muslims for Bernie is fine... thesquanderer Sep 2015 #183

Not at all, particularly if there was a strong constituency there. MADem Sep 2015 #193

I'm not saying the groups can't be courted thesquanderer Sep 2015 #195

I don't have any problem with... Garrett78 Sep 2015 #154

Can they really be so out of touch? This is truly frightening. nt Live and Learn Sep 2015 #68

... ismnotwasm Sep 2015 #69

I want to see the infomercial AlbertCat Sep 2015 #70

I don't see anything about household products in the USA Today article. All it mentions is Metric System Sep 2015 #71

Because it was in the Guardian article. Bonobo Sep 2015 #72

Hmmm. I wonder if the Thx Box will come with Server Wipes. n/t cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #75

JOKE?? THE ONION???? grasswire Sep 2015 #76

She seems to be trying to hang on to her base senz Sep 2015 #78

maybe the box will include a friggin' CLUE, because her campaign clearly doesn't have one zazen Sep 2015 #81

... sheshe2 Sep 2015 #82

so her campaign "brand" to help American people is The Welcome Wagon? zazen Sep 2015 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author SMC22307 Sep 2015 #84

I guess scented candles are to make up for her refusal... SMC22307 Sep 2015 #84

Image of the first recipient. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #86

By this logic, Blacks who voted for Obama were the dupes of racism. McCamy Taylor Sep 2015 #87

And I'm tired of being told a rich white woman knows what's best for me. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #96

Men rear children, cook and clean Ino Sep 2015 #98

some of them were Doctor_J Sep 2015 #135

Obama offered "blacks for O" subscriptions to home deliveries of his favorite black culture stuff? magical thyme Sep 2015 #149

At first, I honestly thought this was satire, Unknown Beatle Sep 2015 #90

"A lifestyle brand." Garrett78 Sep 2015 #91

1. Wake up. 2. Google for negative Hillary news. 3. Spin non-negative Hillary news 4. Mega DU dittos wyldwolf Sep 2015 #95

Don't forget five! MADem Sep 2015 #152

Or #6 wyldwolf Sep 2015 #153

Ha! The article is actually VERY POSITIVE. The hectoring spin that the OP MADem Sep 2015 #158

The Thx box promotes gender stereotypes and superficiality. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #159

No, it doesn't, but thanks for trying so hard! Your concern is touching and noted! MADem Sep 2015 #160

And I quote... Garrett78 Sep 2015 #161

Quoting the article somehow makes you right? wyldwolf Sep 2015 #162

I quoted the article... Garrett78 Sep 2015 #166

which was redundant because we've all read it wyldwolf Sep 2015 #167

Your circular reasoning is making my head spin. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #170

What's making your head spin is the realization everyone doesn't see things like you do wyldwolf Sep 2015 #173

Well, no. It's quite evident that we don't all agree. But nice try. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #175

I hit a nerve. You throw all these 'progressive' buzzwords around and expect people to be in awe wyldwolf Sep 2015 #176

You haven't hit anything. You've missed badly every time. Buzzwords? Garrett78 Sep 2015 #177

I'll bet you're going to tell us Hillary was a goldwater girl next? C'mon! Amaze us. wyldwolf Sep 2015 #179

Okay, okay, one more chance. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #184

You're giving me one more chance to be in awe of your massive 'progressive' knowledge? wyldwolf Sep 2015 #190

Nope. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #191

Can you imagine the outrage if Bernie pulled a stunt like this? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #97

Not really--just based on a really narrow view of what "women's issues" are eridani Sep 2015 #100

As the father of two daughters, I am excited Gothmog Sep 2015 #103

this mother is not excited about her. I think she's a disaster. cali Sep 2015 #104

My mother taught me not to vote for someone because of their gender. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #105

That is your right Gothmog Sep 2015 #107

What are you disagreeing with? Garrett78 Sep 2015 #113

As the father of two daughters, I am excited progressoid Sep 2015 #117

Incredibly sad. Hillary, fire your handlers and mkting team. 7wo7rees Sep 2015 #109

This is sexist and condescending as fuck. bunnies Sep 2015 #110

I don't find it amusing. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #111

Im not amused either. bunnies Sep 2015 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Sep 2015 #112

I was hoping I had imagined this thread yesterday. arcane1 Sep 2015 #115

The HRC campaign called our house to invite my wife to a house party. progressoid Sep 2015 #118

She probably donated before or got on some list as a supporter. SunSeeker Sep 2015 #127

A pink pantsuit bitmoji? Fawke Em Sep 2015 #119

Pantsuits are Hillary's symbol, like Bernie supporters show his hair in their sig line. SunSeeker Sep 2015 #125

I get the pantsuit. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #130

I think it is to harken back to that pink suit she wore in her famous Beijing Women's Rights Speech. SunSeeker Sep 2015 #133

To say that this bounces off the ol' brainbox at an oblique angle hifiguy Sep 2015 #123

The Guardian op-Ed is positive in tone, yet you spin it negatively emulatorloo Sep 2015 #137

It should get "its fair share of eyerolls." Garrett78 Sep 2015 #138

Op-Ed says will get "eye-rolls" from people who "love to hate on Clinton" emulatorloo Sep 2015 #139

It will get eyerolls from feminists. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #140

It got an eyeroll from this one. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #141

I rather hope her supporters will make it clear how anti-feminist this is. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #143

I don't think they care. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #144

I've learned to remember the D and keep it holy. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #146

Agreed. emulatorloo Sep 2015 #142

I guess I am not clear why you would post a link to a positive op-Ed and then spin it as a negative MADem Sep 2015 #156

yes, it's a positive piece. no, I wasn't spinning anything cali Sep 2015 #182

This is embarassing and sexist. Hollingsworth Sep 2015 #145

It's not who thought up this bizarre idea; it's who approved it. sarge43 Sep 2015 #194

Hey, it worked 51 years ago for the Goldwater Girls! HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #155

Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #157

what bullshit, dear Darb cali Sep 2015 #165

Someone is stalking you. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #168

I really seem to bug some folks to a bizarre degree. cali Sep 2015 #178

They have issues, don't let them get to you. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #180

How DARE you post actual things the campaign is doing. arcane1 Sep 2015 #192

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Sep 2015 #169

Is this for real? historylovr Sep 2015 #181

Well...if they throw in an espresso maker I might reconsider. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #185

LOL historylovr Sep 2015 #187

Hillary totally wants me to have one. hedda_foil Sep 2015 #186

Can't imagine why anyone might get the impression... Garrett78 Sep 2015 #189