2016 Postmortem

RufusTFirefly

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119. I'm glad you have a great car. I was mainly being cheeky

Wed Sep 16, 2015, 08:14 PM

Sep 2015

I was alluding to one of those awkward times when President-elect Hillary deviated from her script and got herself in trouble, claiming that when she and Bill left the White House, they were "not only dead broke, but in debt."

Politifact determined that Hillary's claim was "mostly false."

RufusTFirefly concluded that like many such statements, although it may have had a grain of truth to it, from the standpoint of people who truly struggle economically, it was utterly tone deaf.

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My God... You Don't Want Headlines Like THIS... [View all] WillyT Sep 2015 OP

And the hits just keep on coming! nt Logical Sep 2015 #1

some of this reminds me of 1999 hfojvt Sep 2015 #37

Nah. This has nothing to do with Rush Limbaugh back in 1999. delrem Sep 2015 #42

the similarity is hfojvt Sep 2015 #48

That has nothing to do with Rush Limbaugh in 1999 either. delrem Sep 2015 #50

you may have missed that part hfojvt Sep 2015 #51

That's nice. Especially nice that you remember it 16 years later. n/t delrem Sep 2015 #53

Rest assured, if Sanders or O'Malley had done something like this, it would have been reported. merrily Sep 2015 #63

could be a million reasons for this. What is the subtext you are implying? Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #108

I'm not implying any "subtext". delrem Sep 2015 #110

I'm waiting to see what happens with the primaries Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2015 #75

Says it all right there. HerbChestnut Sep 2015 #2

That's super! ibegurpard Sep 2015 #3

The House Of Cards May Be A Tumbling cantbeserious Sep 2015 #4

Which explains Biden's tentative plans to run again. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2015 #32

"he will make decision in late fall" is bullshit politics. delrem Sep 2015 #44

Late Fall is the latest possible date he can make his decision. Filing deadlines. merrily Sep 2015 #64

Interesting point.... dixiegrrrrl Sep 2015 #70

. merrily Sep 2015 #98

I believe he is still grieving for his son/trying to decide if campaigning IdaBriggs Sep 2015 #73

It sure as all heck feels like it's circling the proverbial drain. hedda_foil Sep 2015 #36

Holy Shit on a shingle dorkzilla Sep 2015 #5

Anyone know why she scrapped the public event? Autumn Sep 2015 #6

Likely, she got 3 RVPS Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #9

I just read the comments. Brutal. Autumn Sep 2015 #11

because no one shows up? dorkzilla Sep 2015 #10

Scheduling conflict? daleanime Sep 2015 #7

It's hard to buy enthusiastic crowds. 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #20

It's not really hard. I would bet the deed to my home that politicial crowds have been merrily Sep 2015 #61

ugh. voting machines. 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #100

. merrily Sep 2015 #102

So far, a scheduling conflict has been cited for merrily Sep 2015 #62

she sucks as a candidate dorkzilla Sep 2015 #78

She kept glancing at notes when speaking about merrily Sep 2015 #80

oy dorkzilla Sep 2015 #87

Just what I would expect merrily Sep 2015 #92

merrily I'm going to buy me a Volvo now because I love you THAT much! dorkzilla Sep 2015 #95

Sorry. I forgot which utterly unacceptable vehicle you drove. merrily Sep 2015 #96

Lexus, Volvo, its all the same out-of-touch latte drinking car dorkzilla Sep 2015 #101

Only someone who's been "dead broke" can truly understand the plight of Volvo owners. n/t RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #111

Well I�ve been broke more times than I had money. I�m definitely in the middle now... dorkzilla Sep 2015 #114

I'm glad you have a great car. I was mainly being cheeky RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #119

I knew you were kidding me! dorkzilla Sep 2015 #121

Sorry! Wasn't sure! RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #125

Was that when she was caught not knowing how to put gas in the vehicle? LiberalArkie Sep 2015 #127

Haha. I bet they have a blast when they get together with the Poppy Bushes RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #128

Some high price talent.... daleanime Sep 2015 #82

"80% of life is showing up." Woody Allen merrily Sep 2015 #85

Then she should fire whoever does her scheduling, This just makes her look Autumn Sep 2015 #103

Wow. No wonder she's plummeting. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #8

She brought her own matches, hifiguy Sep 2015 #112

OK, 2008 was a blunder. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #117

Agreed 100% hifiguy Sep 2015 #118

Wow. I am not a fan of Hillary, SheilaT Sep 2015 #12

i think so too restorefreedom Sep 2015 #15

Death by a thousand self inflicted wounds MissDeeds Sep 2015 #31

Four friggn' years of 3rd Way/corporate run focus groups - Divernan Sep 2015 #47

Maybe 8. I heard something about her asking Kanye to hold off his 2016 run to 2020, so she can merrily Sep 2015 #65

I don't know, it is hard to imagine someone with her ambitions ever giving up LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #88

There's no way she concedes until some one else..... daleanime Sep 2015 #105

She's going to lean heavily on those Super Delegates.. frylock Sep 2015 #124

No! She canceled it because it was going to be too awesome!! jeff47 Sep 2015 #13

lol. nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #17

Very Good! Kilgore Sep 2015 #79

�We�re going to raise a significant amount of money.� progressoid Sep 2015 #14

Now, if we could only teach a check how to pull a voting machine lever. merrily Sep 2015 #66

i see the money grab is still scheduled restorefreedom Sep 2015 #16

"Forget the little people, take me to your filthy rich folks." n/t Binkie The Clown Sep 2015 #18

They DID say she was planning on more spontaneous JackInGreen Sep 2015 #19

Last minute cancellations are indeed spontaneous. The plan is working! Kudos to the campaign team! merrily Sep 2015 #67

Well-heeled donors? Yes, please! Old Crow Sep 2015 #21

I get the sense that Hillary is getting worn out, is not up to the task. reformist2 Sep 2015 #22

I don't think she wants a 2008 repeat. CoffeeCat Sep 2015 #35

I'm beginning to think she sees the writing on the wall and wants to bail out dorkzilla Sep 2015 #89

I've noticed that... CoffeeCat Sep 2015 #130

Your post reminds me of this: LWolf Sep 2015 #131

Will she ever have enough money? fbc Sep 2015 #23

Optics! frylock Sep 2015 #24

I remember Eugene McCarthy when I think of Bernie. Schmice2 Sep 2015 #25

How old were you in 1968? McCarthy would have lost to Nixon by a landslide. McCamy Taylor Sep 2015 #28

"Kissinger cut a deal with Nixon to derail the Vietnam peace talks...." WillyT Sep 2015 #33

Kissinger monkeywrenched LBJ's peace offer to the North Vietnamese. hifiguy Sep 2015 #116

Humphrey was a great man, but if they hadn't murdered Bobby, Nixon would have lost to him. hedda_foil Sep 2015 #38

I WAS there. 99Forever Sep 2015 #84

Yeah, I do too, Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #68

Sure you are demwing Sep 2015 #69

JFK was killed in Dallas. For all we know, the Secret Sevice pulled the plug on the appearance. McCamy Taylor Sep 2015 #26

Yet, Why Did She ??? - She Still Had The Time To Collect The Money !!! WillyT Sep 2015 #27

She'd have canceled sooner but tried to arrange some face-saving "conflict" Divernan Sep 2015 #43

There's ALWAYS time to collect hifiguy Sep 2015 #113

That's some very impressive stretching you'r doing there. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #60

"JFK was killed in Dallas" and the Secret Service LWolf Sep 2015 #72

Whew! in_cog_ni_to Sep 2015 #83

Because JFK was killed there? Autumn Sep 2015 #104

Dallas, you say? Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #29

. merrily Sep 2015 #93

Bernie N/T denbot Sep 2015 #30

YAWN!! lobodons Sep 2015 #34

YAWNS & sleepiness may be signs of depression Divernan Sep 2015 #49

Goddammit you made me gigglesnort Scootaloo Sep 2015 #58

She's scrambling to raise every damn penny before dropping out. Divernan Sep 2015 #39

Her Ready For Hillary campaign Aerows Sep 2015 #40

Campaign slogan: Take the PAC money but don't run Divernan Sep 2015 #46

That's great! Aerows Sep 2015 #109

Big deal. So she downsized her Dallas event schedule? delrem Sep 2015 #41

This shows that she's frugal. frylock Sep 2015 #107

Well, she evidently cut budget of her spinmeisters. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #120

In Dallas for breakfast on 9/22; when was public event scheduled? Divernan Sep 2015 #45

If you can't pay to listen to Hillary, delrem Sep 2015 #54

#1 Clinton Fight Club Rule: You gotta pay to play! Divernan Sep 2015 #55

All this negative bullshit. There's no sign whatever that Hillary has "plateaued". delrem Sep 2015 #52

How's that river in Egypt? Divernan Sep 2015 #56

I'll explain after I figure out the purpose of the humerus bone. delrem Sep 2015 #57

Your right .. She has not plateaued Trajan Sep 2015 #86

She has momentum! LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #94

Damn it you just made me choke on my tea!!!!! dorkzilla Sep 2015 #122

She lives in a hermetically sealed world AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #59

That's exactly what the problem is. She's a "bubble girl." Vinca Sep 2015 #71

The Truth...Sad as it is......she's long gone..n/t KoKo Sep 2015 #123

Well, 150 Rich People here, 200 Rich People there, 75 Rich People there... Buns_of_Fire Sep 2015 #74

You seem to be assuming that: Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2015 #76

Everybody knows that politicians have to actually appeal to voters to get elected.. frylock Sep 2015 #126

Nobody has cast any votes for anybody as of yet Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2015 #132

Happy to see that people are finally realizing that a vote has yet to be cast frylock Sep 2015 #133

Ouch. Guess we know where "We, the People" fit in her grand scheme. peacebird Sep 2015 #77

So what does "Big D Democrats" mean? randome Sep 2015 #81

Traditionally, "Big D" = Dallas. Buns_of_Fire Sep 2015 #90

Thanks. Still, meeting with 'Democrats' sounds less populist than meeting with voters. randome Sep 2015 #97

Well, I do. But I can see that her supporters wouldn't. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #91

Why not it is the truth about what is going down YabaDabaNoDinoNo Sep 2015 #99

Will she turn down the money and lecture the fatcats about how bad money in politics is? Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #106

"Turn down the money" hifiguy Sep 2015 #115

She's a lousy public speaker. xfundy Sep 2015 #129