2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Can Bernie supporters comprehend why someone would prefer Hillary over Bernie? [View all]Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)* Bernie Sanders is NOT a Self-described Socialist. He is a Democratic Socialist. So, this statement that you made proves that you are either dishonest, delusional or both.
*Hillary Clinton describes herself as a Moderate, she is not a Progressive. Another false statement which prove that you are dishonest, delusional or both.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/10/politics/hillary-clinton-democrat-progressive/
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"You know, I get accused of being kind of moderate and center," Clinton told the audience at a Women for Hillary event in Ohio. "I plead guilty."
*Brilliant is a matter of opinion. Unless you can provide an IQ test for her, then you are just presenting your impression of her as fact. It isn't.
*Her main qualifications are:
-Being First Lady, which even she is not running on anymore. Last time around she was so desperate to find some justification for running on being First Lady that she falsely claimed to have had to run with her head down because of snipers. Maybe you think she is Brilliant but I would think that this is evidence to the contrary.
-Being Secretary of State. We have not had a former Sec. of State as President since 1861, and he is considered one of the worst. Sec. of State is where politicians go to end their careers, not to forward it. When was the last time a former Sec. of State ran for President? You can't answer that because of how extremely rare that is. Maybe she will be the exception, but it seems that having been Sec. of State is not widely accepted by the American people as a qualification for being President.
-Being Senator. Yes, she won 2 (count them 1...2...) elections in her entire life. Both were in a high population Blue state. Most any well funded (D) could have won those elections. As a Senator, she was a war hawk. Her most notable accomplishment in those 8 years was her vote and the 19 minute speech in favor of authorizing the use of force in Iraq, but that is not the only thing she did that made her a hawk. She also co-introduced legislation to increase the size of the Army. Besides that, her time in the Senate is pretty mundane. Average at best. Her speech in favor of the war in Iraq overshadows everything else.
I'm very sorry, but the idealized version of Hillary Clinton which you have is not real. She was not a great Senator, by any definition. Her time spent as First Lady is not a qualification for being President and no former Sec. of State has been President for over a hundred and fifty years either. I admit that being SoS may help her, but only because she has almost nothing else to run on.
*****Now, if she wins the nomination I will vote for her. I will vote for every (D) on the ticket, as always. Yes, I will show up, as always. I won't be happy that she is our nominee but my vote will count exactly the same as someone who holds some fanciful vision of Hillary as a conquering hero. I sure hope she doesn't go off the rails and make some crazy statement equal to, or even worse than, the sniper thing. She just isn't worth the risk.