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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Can Bernie supporters comprehend why someone would prefer Hillary over Bernie? [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)138. The Obama wing runs the Democratic Party these days.
And most of the old DLC players are retired or no longer working in politics. Those that are still active have adjusted to "Chicago style."
Too much water under the bridge.
The next generation of Democratic leadership may be something else, entirely--but DLC's time is done. They were useful in getting us back into the game, but Obama's victory proved that the tack is in a different direction.
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Can Bernie supporters comprehend why someone would prefer Hillary over Bernie? [View all]
RBInMaine
Oct 2015
OP
Good OP-I am supporting Hillary Clinton because I simply do not think that Sanders is electable
Gothmog
Oct 2015
#204
No, you placed the burden on others to find out what Democratic Socialist means.
Thor_MN
Oct 2015
#159
I can answer that since I have been out on the streets supporting Bernie.
Live and Learn
Oct 2015
#180
He is doing his best (quite well, actually) in person and through social media.
Live and Learn
Oct 2015
#193
I believe you ascribe far to much dislike for the term "socialist" in today's society.
NorthCarolina
Oct 2015
#207
Sanders is not looking to dismantle capitalism. He's basically a staunch libeal/progressive
Armstead
Oct 2015
#58
With the corporatist propaganda from the likes of RW talk radio and both "bought" parties...
cascadiance
Oct 2015
#165
This poll was brought up a while ago and debunked. It only includes data from those who're 56+.
Bubzer
Oct 2015
#166
I wonder if they also threw the term in "communist" how that would be looked at in polling too...
cascadiance
Oct 2015
#169
Because every "He's not electable and he's about to show why; just watch." hurdle...
Chan790
Oct 2015
#225
And s/he made NO claim (overt or implied) that non-HRC supporters are idiots ...
66 dmhlt
Oct 2015
#229
" Especially by the assertions that the post didn't imply (yeah, "imply") what it implied."
JTFrog
Oct 2015
#153
And I hope Hillary supporters read up on Third Way and what its done to the Democratic Party.
RiverLover
Oct 2015
#222
Why would you strongly campaign for Sanders in the general if he can't possibly win?
Vattel
Oct 2015
#3
I think you're making way too much of a little toss-in. We all tend to assume
Hortensis
Oct 2015
#32
Umhm. Except odds for the 2016 White House are in our favor. It's ours to hold.
Hortensis
Oct 2015
#179
GLAD you asked, as I knew someone would. HERE is why I would still campaign BIGTIME for Sanders:
RBInMaine
Oct 2015
#11
Let's turn it around. Here is why I will support Hillary in the general, if she is the nominee.
rogerashton
Oct 2015
#60
Dividing the left mentally up into "us" and "them" may satisfy something inside you,
Hortensis
Oct 2015
#239
RBI said that Sanders couldn't possibly win the GE but that he or she would campaign on his behalf
Vattel
Oct 2015
#120
After reading RBI's response, I would keep fighting even if I knew the Repub would win.
Vattel
Oct 2015
#141
You're wrong. In fact in the '08 debates she described herself as a "Modern Progressive."
RBInMaine
Oct 2015
#18
True, I don't really keep up with "Branding" because it changes so frequently,
NorthCarolina
Oct 2015
#78
Hey, if Ohio voters think Hillary is "too liberal" then they're misinformed as ...
Scuba
Oct 2015
#221
And there you have it. By using the qualifier of "Modern" she was stating she was not
LondonReign2
Oct 2015
#80
Being black is NOTHING like being a self-described "socialist" in our political culture.
RBInMaine
Oct 2015
#19
So do you hate Social Security like you think everyone hates "socialist" the way you do?
cascadiance
Oct 2015
#211
MANY of the attacks have been NASTY, mean, and rotten. And it's endless. Bernie would be disgusted.
RBInMaine
Oct 2015
#20
Oh, please--I think Sanders would disavow a large percentage of the posts being made in
MADem
Oct 2015
#49
Just like Blackwater "no longer exists", and nor does Xe anymore, but Academi LLC does...
cascadiance
Oct 2015
#178
I can, if you don't hold the values for uplifting society as a whole that Bernie speaks of
NorthCarolina
Oct 2015
#13
Your statement is the very hyperbole I mention in the OP. Your mind is LOCKED.
RBInMaine
Oct 2015
#21
And Hillary IS PROGRESSIVE and is for the GREATER GOOD too. So, if you can UNlock for a minute:
RBInMaine
Oct 2015
#33
The OP just glosses over the "Third Way" issue without any arguements to support the denial.
Dustlawyer
Oct 2015
#30
I have so many friends that tell me that they really like Bernie, but they are going to vote
LiberalArkie
Oct 2015
#44
But manny here argue that Obama is a republican, because he compared some policies to theirs ONCE.
bettyellen
Oct 2015
#194
I think the red-baiting against Obama has ironically defanged the term "socialist"
zazen
Oct 2015
#82
The nuts just throw out "communist", "fascist", "nazi", "socialist" to describe Obama...
cascadiance
Oct 2015
#187
There does seem to be a lot of vitriol toward Hillary by telephone Sanders supporters
liberal N proud
Oct 2015
#105
If supporters are a reflection of the candidate then I can't support them
liberal N proud
Oct 2015
#174
Opinions differ on qualifications. I don't think Hillary is qualified.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Oct 2015
#146
It has something to do with why kids love the taste of cinnamon toast crunch
Scootaloo
Oct 2015
#161
I mean she was only one of the founders of the DLC, how in the world would someone think she is
TheKentuckian
Oct 2015
#218