2016 Postmortem

MADem

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74. I am not being dismissive--I simply know what's effective and what isn't. nt

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Bernie Sanders Promises To Do Everything He Can To STOP TPP On The Senate Floor [View all] Segami Oct 2015 OP

It either yes or no with this deal. DCBob Oct 2015 #1

No, I'm fairly sure that she'll try to have it both ways..... daleanime Oct 2015 #15

She probably thinks she's some brilliant triangulator jfern Oct 2015 #61

And that's the whole problem -- "Take it or leave it" Armstead Oct 2015 #17

"Side with the President" AND with the corporations-- against the people. senz Oct 2015 #37

I also suspect Hillary is pro-TPP Jack Rabbit Oct 2015 #47

Something that is rarely if ever brought up about TPP... tex-wyo-dem Oct 2015 #80

Know Thy Enemy - Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks cantbeserious Oct 2015 #2

I work for a corporation Tommy2Tone Oct 2015 #52

We can buy American? Tommy2Tone Oct 2015 #53

Obama had nothing to do with it. senz Oct 2015 #56

Let's give Bush a pass? Tommy2Tone Oct 2015 #81

Bush did not set deregulation into motion nor did he promote NAFTA & the WTO senz Oct 2015 #88

Might want to check you math on how many jobs Bush lost Tommy2Tone Oct 2015 #89

You wrote, "Oh wait, nothing is made here anymore. Let's blame Obama." senz Oct 2015 #90

One May Be An Employee - However, One Is Probably Not Setting Policy - Therein Is The Difference cantbeserious Oct 2015 #64

Corporations and banks can be good or evil Armstead Oct 2015 #71

I wonder if he's going to try and filibuster the agreement. nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #3

Can't. TPA bill removed the filibuster from TPP votes. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #14

Then there's probably not much he can do to stop it in the Senate Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #16

ROFL. jeff47 Oct 2015 #18

TPA passed the House with only 218 votes, the minimum number needed to pass a bill Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #19

And there was a herd of Democrats waiting for 218 to be hit before casting "no" votes. jeff47 Oct 2015 #20

So they weren't really "no" votes even though they voted "no". Thank you for your wisdom. nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #21

What were they waiting for? jeff47 Oct 2015 #22

Who are "they" anyways? Do you have the names of these Democratic members of the House? nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #24

Those goalposts were in a bad spot anyway. jeff47 Oct 2015 #25

Again...I want to thank you for your wisdom. Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #28

Golly...so surprising you can't answer a simple question. jeff47 Oct 2015 #30

I'm thanking you for your infinite wisdom. You've educated me in a spectacular way Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #32

No, you're desperately trying to avoid a simple question via snark. jeff47 Oct 2015 #34

It sounds dramatic and the comment was probably filmed from five angles for a future TV commercial. MADem Oct 2015 #33

From Bernie's e-mail this morning: JDPriestly Oct 2015 #45

My remarks had absolutely nothing to do with the (lack of) merits of the TPP. MADem Oct 2015 #46

You demean Sanders and all "free trade" opponents by saying that Armstead Oct 2015 #69

+1 beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #70

Hyperbole noted. MADem Oct 2015 #72

Condescending Catch 22 dismissiveness noted Armstead Oct 2015 #73

I am not being dismissive--I simply know what's effective and what isn't. nt MADem Oct 2015 #74

And I hope it is effective //nt Armstead Oct 2015 #75

He is rallying THE PEOPLE. senz Oct 2015 #38

I can't wait to hear Hillary on this issue. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #4

'C' Segami Oct 2015 #5

I think she will say there are issues with this deal but its better than what we have now. DCBob Oct 2015 #6

D, eventually followed by C. Scuba Oct 2015 #7

She will do A, B, C and D tularetom Oct 2015 #9

LOL! Segami Oct 2015 #10

There's a long drive to deep left field, Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #60

Which republicans running for the WH are against TPP? randys1 Oct 2015 #27

None. SoapBox Oct 2015 #42

Trump & I think some one else. n/t zalinda Oct 2015 #54

Probably Rand Paul. hedda_foil Oct 2015 #58

D then C restorefreedom Oct 2015 #29

Camp Weathervane has only one conviction: look out for Numero Uno. senz Oct 2015 #39

If he can muster bi-partisan support just on the merits of his appeals to their workers' interests. ancianita Oct 2015 #8

There is some opposition coming from the GOP side! LongTomH Oct 2015 #11

Hopefully other parliaments kill the deal if our congress will not. ZM90 Oct 2015 #12

Yes we do. Ultimately, this hurts people everywhere. senz Oct 2015 #40

Signatories will benefit from the deal, so their sell will be easy. It's the reactions by voters ancianita Oct 2015 #13

Whoever supports this disaster, loses the election. Every single Union in the country is against it. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #23

Why do you think Team Clinton is in such a hurry to get those endorsements? jeff47 Oct 2015 #31

Exactly. Running from the daylight. senz Oct 2015 #41

How can ANY Dem support this? AzDar Oct 2015 #26

And just today Hillary deflected a question on the differences between her and Bernie Broward Oct 2015 #35

I am so glad We the People have Bernie Sanders on our side. senz Oct 2015 #36

We can trade fairly without all these trade agreements. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #43

This is a uniter. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2015 #44

They want us to give up, but we do have the power Babel_17 Oct 2015 #48

Hillary's Business Legacy at State Dept (leading part in drafting TPP) antigop Oct 2015 #49

Give this man a veto pen. Jester Messiah Oct 2015 #50

Let's see, he can hold his breath until he turns blue? Tommy2Tone Oct 2015 #51

He is bringing the voice of the people to the Senate senz Oct 2015 #55

In case you haven't noticed, large crowds do not translate into votes. leftofcool Oct 2015 #65

Not automatically, but they're a step to that Armstead Oct 2015 #66

And we know this because...??? This is NOT NAFTA nt kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #79

Hey, I got an idea Armstead Oct 2015 #68

This isn't good for H artislife Oct 2015 #57

Biggest issue now in this campaign. Along with getting the money out of politics. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #59

And when he makes a promise, he keeps it! sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #62

But he could use the bully pulpit to point out they are corporate owned. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #63

K & R! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #67

K&R nt LiberalElite Oct 2015 #76

How could this become a major point of division hughee99 Oct 2015 #77

Has he written a detailed explanation shireen Oct 2015 #78

Because...workers! America! What else would you need to know? randome Oct 2015 #82

The TPP will also open markets to U.S. goods and lower or eliminate many tariffs on U.S. exports. Nitram Oct 2015 #84

Bernie Sanders Is On The Leading Edge On Everything, All The Time! NonMetro Oct 2015 #83

Yes, nonMetro, we get it. You're in love. Nitram Oct 2015 #85

In Love? NonMetro Oct 2015 #87

Perhaps a bit snarky, but look at the language you used. Nitram Oct 2015 #91

Yes,I Confess: It Was Over The Top! NonMetro Oct 2015 #92

K&R azmom Oct 2015 #86