2016 Postmortem

sulphurdunn

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70. I watched the debate (these things are not real debates)

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 11:03 AM

Oct 2015

They are, as the media likes to boast, "performances." There was nothing either surprising or spectacular about anyone's performance. Furthermore, there was no winner, even though CNN introduced it like it was the promo for a Vegas title fight, and the questions were confrontational. In a real debate, as in a title fight, a panel of judges determines a winner, not the side that shouts the loudest.

What made the democratic candidates stand out from the earlier republican performers was that they actually addressed significant national policy issues. Sadly, personality and body blows make for more entertaining news that policy.

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Hillary Clinton Won the CNN Debate With a Surprisingly Spectacular Performance [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 OP

Well done Clinton, Sanders, and O'Malley msrizzo Oct 2015 #1

I agree deutsey Oct 2015 #7

Same here, "any of those three would make a great president." n/t RKP5637 Oct 2015 #17

What Planet Do You Live On Yallow Oct 2015 #64

The ONLY people who think she won is the M$M. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #2

^^^ This ^^^ cantbeserious Oct 2015 #4

As a dispassionate observer candor compels me to write... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #5

+1000000 n/t MissDeeds Oct 2015 #6

It's still mind boggling though. anyone who watched the debate could clearly see that Bernie won darkangel218 Oct 2015 #8

What a load of crap. Hillary and Bernie both did well. Hillary was much more presidential though. beaglelover Oct 2015 #37

No she was not. darkangel218 Oct 2015 #38

Really? artislife Oct 2015 #60

I watched, support Bernie, am not MSM... lame54 Oct 2015 #56

I Would Hope Hillary Did A Good Job Yallow Oct 2015 #69

This is false, democrats think she won... doesn't mean she benefited the most though uponit7771 Oct 2015 #10

You speaking for all Democrats? Wow. n/t Dawgs Oct 2015 #14

I'm a Democrat and I don't think she did. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #33

I'm a democrat and I think she did win....soooooooooooooooooo... uponit7771 Oct 2015 #36

The spin has begun. zeemike Oct 2015 #16

So funny that Bernistas believe their own trolling R B Garr Oct 2015 #43

It shouldn't be expected bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #47

Sanders won a bunch of "polls" that have no controls for duplicates and no proper sampling. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #49

And yet Hillarians believe the MSM!! artislife Oct 2015 #61

I don't care who the polling organization is. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #65

Precisely: corporate media supporting their chosen candidate. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #76

I guess the blogger who made these "observations" U of M Dem Oct 2015 #3

A "no" answer is snark? Nitram Oct 2015 #50

So what you are inferring is that because biases exist and I happen to have them U of M Dem Oct 2015 #72

Did Anyone Ask Bernie . . . Gamecock Lefty Oct 2015 #9

Bernie acquitted himself with aplomb. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #11

No, this was a night for issues that Democrats care about, not repub talking points. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2015 #20

He didn't. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #34

Why? Clinton, Chafee and Webb were Republicans. cprise Oct 2015 #44

It was a much more exciting debate than I expected. And I did not expect her to be the clear winner. onehandle Oct 2015 #12

I thought she handled the debate quite well and also looked remarkably relaxed and RKP5637 Oct 2015 #21

It was a great debate, issues rose to the surface, a fine example of how a debate Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #13

She failed with me Etraker Oct 2015 #15

Are you kidding me zglmoo Oct 2015 #19

Excuse me. Etraker Oct 2015 #23

Sigh, another "Sanders CAN throw stones" democrat... no he can't, no one is perfect and whatever uponit7771 Oct 2015 #28

sorry, I can't let a repub win because I didn't get exactly what I wanted. CTyankee Oct 2015 #29

I Want A Pony Too!!! Yallow Oct 2015 #71

Yes, and paid family leave and sick leave. Bernie has nudged her left and that is wonderful. CTyankee Oct 2015 #80

Of course it is not nature that will take over it is the Republicans. Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #31

Her comment about Edward Snowden and her defense of the NSA spying on US really turned JDPriestly Oct 2015 #39

+1 darkangel218 Oct 2015 #42

+1,000! cprise Oct 2015 #46

No no no artislife Oct 2015 #67

I agree SmittynMo Oct 2015 #45

+1 million geardaddy Oct 2015 #53

It was a GREAT night for democracy and the democratic party!!!!! SmittynMo Oct 2015 #55

When she started saying that "more research is needed" , I felt nauseus darkangel218 Oct 2015 #40

And the BIGGEST PANTLOAD Award goes to............. Darb Oct 2015 #51

Smart confident prepared. DCBob Oct 2015 #18

Did Hillary convonce anyone that .... Geronimoe Oct 2015 #22

The problem with attacking her through him---she is widely perceived as the boss of him. McCamy Taylor Oct 2015 #27

Widely perceived so by Hillary fans. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #35

Agree ismnotwasm Oct 2015 #24

that's a good photo of her. I didn't watch the debate so I can't comment though m-lekktor Oct 2015 #25

She was great! Much better than expected. Being SOS has given her confidence. McCamy Taylor Oct 2015 #26

The Iraq war vote is not going away and you could see it on her face. EndElectoral Oct 2015 #30

Slate's readers seem to disagree. Puglover Oct 2015 #32

I'm a Bernie fan... but she was out for blood and playing to win The Green Manalishi Oct 2015 #41

As someone who has cooled from her in the last few years, amuse bouche Oct 2015 #48

I am a Bernie supporter bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #52

I'm Also A Bernie Supporter And DO Think She Did Well, BUT ChiciB1 Oct 2015 #73

Hillary labeled the TPP ' The Gold Standard', but suddenly she's against it? AzDar Oct 2015 #54

No clue darkangel218 Oct 2015 #57

K&R! stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #58

She came off as insincere, and her expressions were clownish at times Android3.14 Oct 2015 #59

I respectfully dissent. Bernie and Hillary acquitted themselves admirably... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #66

Bernie disappointing? bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #77

It all depends on how "WIN" is defined. Martin Eden Oct 2015 #62

All Hillary won for was bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #78

K&R! stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #63

Hillary was awesome! workinclasszero Oct 2015 #68

I watched the debate (these things are not real debates) sulphurdunn Oct 2015 #70

K & R SunSeeker Oct 2015 #74

Obviously. moobu2 Oct 2015 #75

Hillary won the debate last night. If you dont think so, Csmajor5 Oct 2015 #79

Bullshit! But keep wghining! Nt Logical Oct 2015 #82

I just have to say that that's a great picture of Hillary! workinclasszero Oct 2015 #81

I've been listening some to rw radio and they are seriously depressed. DCBob Oct 2015 #83

Hardly surprising Awsi Dooger Oct 2015 #84