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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: When will the Democratic Party ask itself why it is losing so many members? [View all]zeemike
(18,998 posts)78. And I would like to see the data that supports your claim.
The percentage of voters who swing from party to party is relatively small and that's what the research indicates
But the spin is in the wording..."reletive and swing"
I would ask some questions like
What is "reletive"...reletive to what?
What do the independents who don't "swing" do?
Do they not vote because they don't believe either one? And if that is the case are those not the very ones the party should attract?
But the targeting resources to leaner's is what the 50 state strategy sought to change...and when used it did work. When you start conceding ground in a war it shows weakness and demoralizes the troops.
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When will the Democratic Party ask itself why it is losing so many members? [View all]
artislife
Oct 2015
OP
the green party has been doing well, as evidenced by all the elections they have been winning
still_one
Oct 2015
#57
Registered Independents now the largest voting bloc in the country as voters flee both major parties
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#144
Some people register as independent because their state has open primaries, where independents have
still_one
Oct 2015
#150
OK, I stand corrected for the generalization. I was speaking for my state, California, and as I
still_one
Oct 2015
#164
I certainly hope Progressives start their own party, should the DNC steal the election for Hillary -
in_cog_ni_to
Oct 2015
#9
So now that polls show Clinton pulling away, you're pre-emptively calling voter fraud?
StrongBad
Oct 2015
#27
Waht polls? You mean the bogus, Corpoate Owned ABC poll? Bogus. And actually,
in_cog_ni_to
Oct 2015
#136
We still have to get past the hurdle of the superdelegates - 20% of all delegates........
LongTomH
Oct 2015
#44
"if the superdelegates try to override the will of the people and tilt the election........."
LongTomH
Oct 2015
#132
Nah, DWS will have work - as a "Democratic Strategist" commentator on Fox Noise.
Scuba
Oct 2015
#156
Has DWS been involved in stealing elections via reprogramming voting machines?
emulatorloo
Oct 2015
#62
That's not the solution. If we can't keep control of our own party, we wouldn't be able to keep
rhett o rick
Oct 2015
#125
It's the analogy I'd read. And lets be fair, but I did ask for a clarification n/t
Sheepshank
Oct 2015
#24
Bernie is REBUILDING the Democratic Party, by bringing in millions of disaffected pissed-off
99th_Monkey
Oct 2015
#68
Bernie is calling Democrats home, the ones that have moved to the suburbs don't want to return. nt
Snotcicles
Oct 2015
#96
so then you may be contradicting the OP. The party isn't losing voters, there's a net gain?
Sheepshank
Oct 2015
#131
No definitive proof of "millions", but looking at the total number of Registered Dems, etc.
99th_Monkey
Oct 2015
#141
Seriously, the smaller the Democratic party becomes, the easier it will be to control from within.
Baitball Blogger
Oct 2015
#11
First thing would be to reinstate (something like) the Fairness Doctrine and the Equal time act.
BlueJazz
Oct 2015
#12
I will ignore the ad hominems as my stellar character precludes me from
DemocratSinceBirth
Oct 2015
#31
The percentage of voters who swing from party to party is relatively small
DemocratSinceBirth
Oct 2015
#56
"The numbers may not lie, but they don't always tell the real story, either. "
Sheepshank
Oct 2015
#135
I think what you may be observing is a poll that asked Indies previously surveyed to chose
PotatoChip
Oct 2015
#104
I don't know if it's fair or not. I'm just presenting another related poll I found interesting. (nt)
PotatoChip
Oct 2015
#111
This isn't from the data but i suspect some folks hold themselves out as independents
DemocratSinceBirth
Oct 2015
#114
I vote for the most liberal and electable* Democrat in the primaries
DemocratSinceBirth
Oct 2015
#118
The Primary is the Big Sales event, the 2008 primary saw huge gains in registration and turnout
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2015
#30
2010 and 2012-historic losses at local, state and federal levels by "electable" Democrats, yet
merrily
Oct 2015
#33
I just did an OP on this, but: Jim Webb was a celebrity rising star in the party 10 years ago
Recursion
Oct 2015
#42
Unrec. The Democratic party is growing. That's one of the reason the national move-to-the-left
FSogol
Oct 2015
#50
Hyperbolic nonsense. Polls? Compare our party platform to the GOP's. Ours is progressive.
FSogol
Oct 2015
#60
Neither is tearing the party down in thread after thread because HRC rose in the NH polls.
FSogol
Oct 2015
#77
I wasn't talking about you. I'm a member of the Democratic party and will vote for their nominee.
FSogol
Oct 2015
#83
Really? No matter how far right the party goes you will pick their nominee? Really? n/t
Dawgs
Oct 2015
#86
Has the Democratic party EVER nominated someone to the right of the GOP (in the last 75 years)?
FSogol
Oct 2015
#90
Over a year until the election and some on DU are already advocating not voting.
FSogol
Oct 2015
#97
I've always pushed for progressive candidates, donating or working on campaigns
FSogol
Oct 2015
#110
I'm not. Life is about choices. If you select one candidate, you are not selecting another.
FSogol
Oct 2015
#116
I don't know if the Democratic Party is net losing members. I know it is losing elections.
merrily
Oct 2015
#85
The problem is the party's brand is being defined by its deep-pocketed opponents.
hay rick
Oct 2015
#94
Bashing Hillary is a losing concern. She is practically untouchable even by Gowdy....
Sheepshank
Oct 2015
#139
With 30% of the public identifying with the Democratic party and losing members every year...
raindaddy
Oct 2015
#115
The party will never question why it is losing members. It is too busy blaming the voters.
liberal_at_heart
Oct 2015
#142
When they realize they're turning in to Republicans, and I don't mean the ones Leaving .
orpupilofnature57
Oct 2015
#151