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Agnosticsherbet

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7. No, that was liberal progam enacted by a liberal president using the concepts of liberalism.

Wed Oct 21, 2015, 04:51 PM

Oct 2015

I use The Concise Oxford Dictionary of Politics published by Oxford University Press. In college, I read "The Communist Manifesto" and a lot of Adam Smith's Wealth of nations. (Marx is Very dry reading and Smith is not much better.)

You see, summoning up programs passed by a government as sounding socialist doesn't make them socialist.

However, lumping them all together and calling them socialist makes for a great meme, though not factually accurate.

Her is a link to a newer edition of the dictionary I use. I recommend it highly as a reference book.
http://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780199207800.001.0001/acref-9780199207800

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Did Republicans vote for socialists? Apparently they used to! Bernie wants to follow up there... [View all] cascadiance Oct 2015 OP

Eisenhower was not a socialist. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #1

Bernie seems to think so, and he seems to support socialist parts of our government... cascadiance Oct 2015 #2

Sanders is using hyperbole Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #5

So when Paul Ryan got money from when his dad died from death benefits, that wasn't socialism? cascadiance Oct 2015 #6

No, that was liberal progam enacted by a liberal president using the concepts of liberalism. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #7

+1 n/t FSogol Oct 2015 #8

Then what makes Bernie a "socialist" and Eisenhower not a socialist... cascadiance Oct 2015 #9

(1) He self designates as a Democratic Socialist. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #10

Semantics only. Lucky Luciano Oct 2015 #12

Words have real meanings. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #13

The explain how Sanders' stances on the issues MEANINGFULLY differ from FDR's. nt mhatrw Oct 2015 #33

You weren't answering my question... WHAT makes Bernie a socialist... cascadiance Oct 2015 #14

Check my answer below this one. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #16

Eisenhower's policies, self designation, and his Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #15

So advocating for a high marginal tax rate of 90%+ isn't socialism then? cascadiance Oct 2015 #18

Tax policy is not socialism. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #19

He said he didn't like CREEPING socialism according to your quote... cascadiance Oct 2015 #22

Read The dictionary I suggested an then Marx Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #29

History is clear that Ike liked Sanders' version of "Democratic Socialism" mhatrw Oct 2015 #34

I never said Socialism or Sanders were bad. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #20

Socialism, Democratic Socialism, and other forms of Socialism have Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #21

Again, if they have real meanings then why don't you say what those meanings are... cascadiance Oct 2015 #24

I suggest you begin with the dictionary I suggested. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #28

So then Sweden and other northern European countries aren't socialist because they aren't communist? cascadiance Oct 2015 #30

An uneducated opinion is not fact. Eisenhower was not a socialist Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #31

Learn what Sanders' version of Democratic Socialism is. mhatrw Oct 2015 #35

Learn what Socialism is, Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #36

Then Sanders is not a socialist. mhatrw Oct 2015 #37

K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #3

A big, fat K&R! CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2015 #4

That was my father's Republican party. Even he would be aghast at what they've become. Scuba Oct 2015 #11

I used to wonder about my dads republicanism madokie Oct 2015 #17

Here's a hint...Ronald Reagan couldn't win the Republican nomination today brooklynite Oct 2015 #23

Yep, he would prosecute banksters that gave us the savings and loan crisis... cascadiance Oct 2015 #25

what was the Democratic platform in 1956? Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #26

scratch that, it was even more liberal than that Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #27

They did pinebox Oct 2015 #32