2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Third Way Progressives, Screwing the Plebs [View all]TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)nor does his life over decades.
Has his emphasis been on economics? Sure and not unreasonable in context since we are 35 or 40 years deep in an era where the entire establishment be it both parties, churches, business of course, the media ALL of it have gone with the bogus gospels of W.I.N, deregulation, trickle down, free trade, and all of the nonsense of St. Ronnie are fully embraced fucking SOMEBODY needed to before a whole area of truth and justice was blotted from the face of the nation but there is no honest argument of disregard much less opposition of social issues from Sanders.
It is a dishonest and to be honest a nonsensical smear because the truth is the man is more often than not ahead of the curve. There is absolutely no equivalence in the economic (and military and law enforcement and civil liberties and environmental stewardship and the drug war among other things that aren't just economics or even tangential to them) positions of the DLC/Turd Way and Sanders' record on almost any "social issue" you have.
What in the world are these "Third Way" social positions Bernie Sanders holds and has spent his career advancing? He voted de-funding ACORN, I think that is a strong telltale indicator that this might be somebody on the right side of social policy when a lot a lot that have a lot more innocence assumed especially when in truth the argument is almost always focus not policy when others are dicey on both totally cut and run on a huge self inflicted wound to the Democratic Party, another kneecapping of the black community's ability to participate and have even a theoretical opportunity to have representation and impact on the process, and to even the concept of democracy in general.
Just one more recent important example of a lifetime of being on the right side of justice.
I find the most common rationale for the affinity for the Turd Way scammers to not only be far from compelling but also scary and wrong-headed because the reaction to these so called "connections to the community" should be to close the shutters, get the kids in the house, and lock the door because they come to glad hand the low level pols and big time preachers in order to show us the great respect of coming through to sell some throat cutting poison pill scam that is going to, on the whole, kick our ass the worse like that piece of shit crime bill, welfare deform, and the even more dangerous education deform.
Just because someone comes to smile in your face personally when they fuck you doesn't mean they respect you and it sure doesn't change that there is some fucking going on.
My vote in the black community is that the Turd Way comes with the jive and con they be respected and trusted no more than a touring carnival and more like the traveling snake oil salesman at very best.
That explanation is like far too little butter spread over way too much bread for me. Well...more like lite margarine but you get the point.
If one is a big gun controller which is not reflective of my black associates, friends, and family we own at a fair clip higher than the white folks though they end up with more because there are more of them then you have some concerns though I'd say well overstated since he is still probably more restrictive than the American median.
Other than that for those that are focused there, the argument that Sanders hasn't been upper tier on most issues the most consistently is very weak, seemingly willfully misleading, and not backed up by word or deed.
The problem isn't enmity or indifference to social policy it is about the spotlight on economics, civil liberties, and the environment but especially the economics that appear to be the problem. I just see no coherent policy content to the critique to think otherwise and no good can come of it.
Feathering the nest and ceding all power to the vulture class isn't helping women, black, brown, children, and sure as fuck not poor people who are disproportionately likely to be the previously mentioned groups it is completely irrational as far as I can discern.