2016 Postmortem

bravenak

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89. We get none of that through Bernie. None.

Sat Oct 24, 2015, 06:43 PM

Oct 2015

He knows he cannot pass jack in this congress and I know millions in the street, if people even take to the streets, will just invigorate republicans. And I do not appreciate the harassment and nasty letters to me home from self described fans of his. That killed it for me.

I do not see a welcoming environment with which to build a sustainable coalition. He lacks that. Lacks charisma. On policy he's fine, though to my right.

I am a SJ over EJ type in response to all of the EJ over SJ in his ranks. They made me reflect on what is important to me. Money? Or equality? Because with equality the benefits will come. With a few money crumbs tossed my way, I'll know I have just been bribed out of fighting for my fair share. I will not join a fight in which white men get the lion share of the nenefits and the rest of us 'others' get a black portion, or a woman's portion, or a native americans portion. I want the same he gets or they can fight that by themselves. Why should I help him increase his wealth way more than he's helping mine?

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FACT: We can only have social justice, OR economic justice. Never both! [View all] MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 OP

Fact. Autumn Oct 2015 #1

Kicked recommended for people that can walk and chew gum at the same time. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #2

Fact: that cannot be done MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #4

and if you chew gum, marym625 Oct 2015 #81

Thank you DU.... daleanime Oct 2015 #105

silly you!!! marym625 Oct 2015 #113

It's getting very hard to listen.... daleanime Oct 2015 #116

"Vote smart! Vote vagina!" LOL! merrily Oct 2015 #126

! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #3

Funny, isn't it, how the common denominator of "justice" is so often overlooked. n/t arcane1 Oct 2015 #5

Reagan made it so!!! Now we must focus on equality so that all can recieve fair shares!!!! bravenak Oct 2015 #6

Fact: your post is incoherent. nt MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #11

Lol. bravenak Oct 2015 #26

Yes, Manny-Facts are very truthy. It is one of the things I admire about you. emulatorloo Oct 2015 #27

16 million American children live in poverty. Many of them are of color. rhett o rick Oct 2015 #15

Because of this post. bravenak Oct 2015 #29

If the pie's made right, the crust is the best part. senz Oct 2015 #31

I don't like the crusts. I like the sweet potato filling. bravenak Oct 2015 #92

Um hm. And what you like is what matters. senz Oct 2015 #94

You just want me satisfied with crusts while you get the filling. bravenak Oct 2015 #98

Oh yeah that's got to be it. senz Oct 2015 #99

I guess you were just trying to show me that the crust is better!!! You should like it!!! Lol, senz. bravenak Oct 2015 #101

What else you gonna do? SMC22307 Oct 2015 #39

Watch the revolution die. bravenak Oct 2015 #50

"Watch the revolution die." BeanMusical Oct 2015 #51

How many times does someone have to call Bernie's supporters racist? Major Hogwash Oct 2015 #74

It already does. They've been doing it for months. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #91

Since two days before he announced. hifiguy Oct 2015 #109

Well Major. There are racists in every group. bravenak Oct 2015 #96

On every forum, too. Major Hogwash Oct 2015 #147

Rarely. Living in this nation anyway. bravenak Oct 2015 #148

Wrong. When I graduated from high school, the President was Richard M Nixon. Major Hogwash Oct 2015 #149

I graduated long before that. Actually I am a high school drop out. bravenak Oct 2015 #150

NEVER!!! Things will always be like this. Never project your own internal ideology onto a politician bravenak Oct 2015 #88

Then what? WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #80

My lot is fine. I have no issues with upward mobility for myself. bravenak Oct 2015 #87

What, specifically, are your ideas of "crumbs" or "benefits"? WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #124

Those at the lowest rungs are those who recieve the crumbs. bravenak Oct 2015 #125

So the social safety net is "crumbs"? WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #128

Names Like D'Marcus, LaChristian, Queandre, LaTisha. bravenak Oct 2015 #129

Enh, but for "Queandre," the names aren't all that unusual. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #134

Bernie is not saying anything that moves me. I am to his left. On most everything. bravenak Oct 2015 #135

Is that so? Haven't you claimed to be open to Sanders' ideas... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #137

Exactly. Showing them to be rightwing on race. bravenak Oct 2015 #138

LOL, good luck with that. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #139

I think Hillary will just win. The schadenfreude will be enough for me. bravenak Oct 2015 #140

And the feeling when you realize not a damn thing has improved... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #141

Will not happen since I know that the same would happen under Bernie. bravenak Oct 2015 #142

Relying on Candidate A's outcomes to base opinion of Candidate B? WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #144

I rely on the fact that congress will pass nothing. Republicans have the majority. bravenak Oct 2015 #145

Clinton talks out of both sides of her mouth... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #146

No one is suggesting that. I am asking you to join a revolution against those that rhett o rick Oct 2015 #56

What "equality?" We don't have Social OR Economic justice NOW noiretextatique Oct 2015 #73

indeed, they are inextricably intertwined, and given that genius is not required to see that stupidicus Oct 2015 #76

We get none of that through Bernie. None. bravenak Oct 2015 #89

What, in your opinion, were Hillary's greatest political victories? MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #95

No thanks! bravenak Oct 2015 #97

Okay. MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #100

She has already won. bravenak Oct 2015 #102

You just can't tell me *what* she's won MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #103

The Democratic Nomination. bravenak Oct 2015 #104

So, to sum up your case, MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #106

Bernie lost this Summer. bravenak Oct 2015 #107

Why can't anyone tell me what Hillary's greatest MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #111

We don't need to. She won. bravenak Oct 2015 #115

Oy gevalt. nt MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #119

Scary huh? bravenak Oct 2015 #121

Well she dodged bullets from snipers in Bosnia. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #123

It's all "trickle down", don't you know that? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #71

Did you know that Hillary was widened her lead over Bernie in South Dakota, 72% to 18%? reformist2 Oct 2015 #7

She can have South Dakota MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #10

I think the idea of returning to a landlocked state in flyover country is her worst nightmare, LOL reformist2 Oct 2015 #13

Interesting that the politicians call these places 'flyover' country. PatrickforO Oct 2015 #19

She can't have the Black Hills of South Dakota senz Oct 2015 #32

"DidIMentionImAWomankota"! BWAH!! kath Oct 2015 #40

#DidIMentionImAWomankota FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #57

Needs a # Manny. You are missing a golden opportunity there Autumn Oct 2015 #60

#DidIMentionImAWomanKota marym625 Oct 2015 #82

I love that!! As a woman I may have to learn how to twitter. Autumn Oct 2015 #86

Twitter is easy as pie! marym625 Oct 2015 #110

Yeah Elizabeth Warren would be my choice. Autumn Oct 2015 #122

An Elizabeth Warren Barbara Lee ticket would rock my world marym625 Oct 2015 #143

Not only Republicans are grumpy cats! Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #8

The 50 million Americans living in poverty are probably a little grumpy and not rhett o rick Oct 2015 #18

They just don't get it. Phlem Oct 2015 #84

It really really sucks. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #90

LOL, nope you've got that right. PatrickforO Oct 2015 #20

Funny how 3rd way talks about how you have to fight for justice Hydra Oct 2015 #9

Multitasking is from now on strictly verboten! sadoldgirl Oct 2015 #12

Jury Results opiate69 Oct 2015 #14

I was guessing 2-5 MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #16

Geez. I can't believe that post was even alerted. PatrickforO Oct 2015 #24

I can. Fuddnik Oct 2015 #30

Nothing wrong with witches. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #37

Or songs about them. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #38

I love that song! BeanMusical Oct 2015 #41

Me too, it puts the groove in groovy. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #42

Always makes me think of "To Die For"... SMC22307 Oct 2015 #45

I've never seen it. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #46

That picture moves while standing still Oilwellian Oct 2015 #47

Are you calling me a witch? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #48

Pass whatever you're tokin' over here. hifiguy Oct 2015 #112

Donovan-under Six Degrees of Separation (of merrily). merrily Oct 2015 #53

Donovan did Billion Dollar Babies with Alice Cooper Mnpaul Oct 2015 #58

Awesome! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #118

I don't always know multi-millionaire celebrities, but when I do, I shall be obnoxious about it!. merrily Oct 2015 #127

Makes me want to have a beer! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #130

Drinking alcohol gives me a headache. So... merrily Oct 2015 #131

How about this?: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #132

Fine, but I was also perfectly fine doing a spit take with the beer. merrily Oct 2015 #133

That video moves even when it's on pause! Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #64

I got vertigo just posting the link! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #120

Everything was good about Elizabeth Montgomery, Grand Marshall with Dick Sargent of LA Gay Pride Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #59

Years ago there was a poster who used her in his sig line. He was one of the Autumn Oct 2015 #66

+1 BeanMusical Oct 2015 #85

How interesting, I had no idea. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #136

If Manny posts an OP odds are very high it will be alerted and if the jury alert fails then Autumn Oct 2015 #61

Juror comments are sometimes equally vicious. nt Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #67

Yes they are I was guilty of that myself Autumn Oct 2015 #68

Sure, I understand the difference Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #69

Believe it. 99Forever Oct 2015 #65

So much this^^^ hifiguy Oct 2015 #114

I thought the " It isn't even Halloween yet." part made it special azurnoir Oct 2015 #36

Oh please. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #17

Sadly, it wasn't a shut-out... (I was not the lone dissenter, BTW) opiate69 Oct 2015 #21

I like that picture a lot. nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #23

LOL! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #25

Love it but it could use a little more spittle :) n/t Oilwellian Oct 2015 #49

Stimpy is ALWAYS good. hifiguy Oct 2015 #117

DU MADNESS! [n/t] Maedhros Oct 2015 #151

When one doesn't have anything of substance, they alert and hope for a friendly jury rhett o rick Oct 2015 #22

What a stupid alert. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #35

Alerted because of the Monty Python witch bit? neverforget Oct 2015 #43

You cant have either one Armstead Oct 2015 #28

How else can one attain social justice, delrem Oct 2015 #33

It has to be both or we get neither. stillwaiting Oct 2015 #54

Tell it to your Volvo mechanic, mister MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #55

Lol! Fact: Good imitation of the "style" of a certain someone. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #34

Bwa.........HaHaHaHaHaHa... Cassiopeia Oct 2015 #44

I heart you, Manny tblue Oct 2015 #52

I'm loving the new StrawManny persona. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #62

"new" ?? JoePhilly Oct 2015 #72

how can i not rec a mp clip? restorefreedom Oct 2015 #63

that line of argument's always baffled me MisterP Oct 2015 #70

When a tiny fraction of the population sulphurdunn Oct 2015 #75

Hmmmm ... are those live babies ? If not, why all the fuss ? nt eppur_se_muova Oct 2015 #77

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #78

Sort of like, "You can only have Freedom or a TV." Hard choice. Excuse me, Dancing with the rhett o rick Oct 2015 #79

"We oughta have one of these every year!" SoapBox Oct 2015 #83

Good luck with that WAKE THE @#$& UP stuff zeemike Oct 2015 #93

Another classic. hifiguy Oct 2015 #108