2016 Postmortem

kelliekat44

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34. this is how we lose.

Wed Oct 28, 2015, 07:37 PM

Oct 2015

"because his campaign is not like Hlllary's campaign, a personal quest for achievement and power, that cannot run on its own issues and ideas. So it runs on Bernie's issues and ideas while attempting to swiftboat him in a contemptible manner that would make Karl Rove and Lee Atwater proud."

What has the Hillary campaign done that is anywhere near what Atwater and Rove did? And why is it that everyone else..yes, even the GOP candidates ..can run for the Presidency for noble reasons and Hillary is the only now who is running for a "personal quest of achievement and power?"

This woman was in the trenches before many of the Sanders supporters were out of diapers. It is just insane for any who call themselves Democrats to demean her in this way. You don't have to like her or even support her but some of this shit is beyond reason.

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Bernie's campaign is not in trouble [View all] Bernblu Oct 2015 OP

. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #1

How nice of you to drop in just to employ an eye roll. Kalidurga Oct 2015 #3

I'm thankful it wasn't the wall of rofl. Cassiopeia Oct 2015 #32

Yes there is a poster that does that just to be disruptive Kalidurga Oct 2015 #38

I adblocked the rofl years ago Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 #81

I was curious Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 #80

Hey. bravenak Oct 2015 #7

hi.... riversedge Oct 2015 #17

An over the top fantasy piece. Half-Century Man Oct 2015 #29

LOL Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #31

LOL What is this? And why isn't she jogging in a pantsuit? Beartracks Oct 2015 #42

Next.... AlbertCat Oct 2015 #55

Here..this will explain more... riversedge Oct 2015 #65

Ah. Thanks. Bewilderment erased. N/t Beartracks Oct 2015 #82

hi back pinebox Oct 2015 #63

. Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #33

Runners for Hillary will just run over any Sanders issues. riversedge Oct 2015 #2

Another one bites the dust, another one bites the dust, & another one gone, another one gone! peacebird Oct 2015 #6

@HillaryClinton is fighting for us & #ImWithHer. riversedge Oct 2015 #10

I think Bernie will win the nomination. And then the Presidency peacebird Oct 2015 #4

The Kayakers for Hillary have run you over and made you dizzy & incoherent riversedge Oct 2015 #14

You are behaving like a child in this thread, issuing silly taunts.[n/t] Maedhros Oct 2015 #18

oh silly, these are not taunts--Just standing up for the Comback lady-->#Hillyes! riversedge Oct 2015 #22

Comments like the one you refer to have made my Ignore list a really cluttered place, I swear. Myrina Oct 2015 #72

DU is overrun with petulant children stamping their feet. [n/t] Maedhros Oct 2015 #83

It's all they have. They need to distract from actual issues. nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #87

I agree MissDeeds Oct 2015 #39

I fervently hope so. Among the candidates, Bernie is the only one who will be trying Cal33 Oct 2015 #58

/\_/\_This_/\_/\ Scuba Oct 2015 #67

Win or lose, I am proud of him mvd Oct 2015 #5

Thank you. I completely agree with this. Blue_In_AK Oct 2015 #11

Of course she wouldn't. SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #30

That's the part I'm afraid of "At least in words." Once in office, she might become Cal33 Oct 2015 #53

Oh, I don't think there's any "might" about it. nt SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #61

^^THIS^^ n/t Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #70

Keep in mind that her past actions do not reflect the values she has recently "adopted." Scuba Oct 2015 #68

Great post. NurseJackie Oct 2015 #12

Yes, that grassroots movement give me hope for the future -- for the first time in years! LongTomH Oct 2015 #19

You Said It... For The FIRST TIME IN YEARS, BUT ChiciB1 Oct 2015 #60

Well, at least since 2008. Control-Z Oct 2015 #64

Bernie is winning by setting the tone and leading the discussion to liberal causes sorechasm Oct 2015 #23

...! KoKo Oct 2015 #47

Win or lose, I am proud of him AlbertCat Oct 2015 #56

+1 deutsey Oct 2015 #84

Bernie is so altruistic. boston bean Oct 2015 #8

That last line is what Bernie wants us to remember. This jwirr Oct 2015 #9

the "low poll numbers" are still crawling upward at basically the same rate; MisterP Oct 2015 #13

"Clinton's bounce is strictly from Biden voters" zappaman Oct 2015 #21

Time to move the goal post guys...bernies brain-trust workinclasszero Oct 2015 #25

Laugh it up. Well just be over there working hard Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #51

It's in trouble if you think you're going to win over any HRC supporters.... JaneyVee Oct 2015 #15

"Hillary can win without Bernie supporters, Bernie can't win without Hillary supporters." blackspade Oct 2015 #35

I don't think there's any way she can win the general election. Republicans would turn out ... Scuba Oct 2015 #69

+1 n/t Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #71

+2 Myrina Oct 2015 #73

A lot of her supporters seem to forget we don't have a national popular vote. jeff47 Oct 2015 #78

Well, that's complete crap. bvf Oct 2015 #54

That speaks volumes about what the HRC supporters really stand for, then. Myrina Oct 2015 #74

eloquently said.. DianeK Oct 2015 #16

We've already won, even if he never sets foot in the White House. Gregorian Oct 2015 #20

Yep Hillary and now the Repubs (in tonights debate) KoKo Oct 2015 #52

Number 1 workinclasszero Oct 2015 #24

Send them to the Bern unit redstateblues Oct 2015 #27

LOL workinclasszero Oct 2015 #28

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #26

this is how we lose. kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #34

Its due to the swiftboating demwing Oct 2015 #37

What swiftboating? mcar Oct 2015 #75

Well look at what their leader himself has said about the democratic party workinclasszero Oct 2015 #40

Half The Dems Work For The Same Billionaires Yallow Oct 2015 #44

Someone is forgetting about 2014 cprise Oct 2015 #45

Trenches? artislife Oct 2015 #49

That comment you're replying to Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #66

The myth building is truly artislife Oct 2015 #76

Does Samders know all this? Gman Oct 2015 #36

Yes he does. Bernblu Oct 2015 #46

And if he loses to the candidate who you believe espouses none of those principles? brooklynite Oct 2015 #41

Agree with the post 110% Hulk Oct 2015 #43

The ending to your subject should be, "... it's over". nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #48

I don't trust the source nt artislife Oct 2015 #50

"...until 8 years later when you refute all your previous reporting." (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #79

So Bernie is still pro gun then too? Still badmouthing the Democratic Party and Obama? stevenleser Oct 2015 #85

Nope. I'm referring to your large reversal from 8 years ago. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #86

Nope, I'm referring to pro-gun Bernie and anti-Obama Bernie and anti-Democratic party stevenleser Oct 2015 #88

Not at all. Shit is just getting started but there is an effort to snuff it and sew fear, TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #57

YES, Bernie's Campaign IS NOT A Campaign, Because ChiciB1 Oct 2015 #59

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #62

You are right...Hillary brings absolutely nothing to the table for the majority of Americans. coyote Oct 2015 #77