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2016 Postmortem
Showing Original Post only (View all)The Rise Of Bernie Sanders And The PANIC Of The Third Way Democratic Centrists [View all]

The Third Way Instructing Democrats........
On Wednesday morning, the think tank Third Way held a briefing in which it warned candidates that they risked personal and broadly shared electoral harm if they echoed Sanders' populist message.
"You would be back to 1972 [if Bernie were nominated]," warned Bill Daley, President Barack Obama's former chief of staff and a Third Way board member, referencing the blowout Richard Nixon win that year. "It was not a happy time for Democrats. The guy has been a socialist his whole life and now decides he is a Democrat and therefore the Democratic Party has got to move to that extreme? I think it is a recipe for disaster."
The rise of Sanders, though unanticipated, has exposed familiar ideological fissures within the Democratic Party. Virtually every modern presidential election has pitted an insurgent candidate with populist appeal against a more centrist-minded or establishment alternative. Bill Clinton's win in 1992 ushered in a generation of modern, more moderate New Democrats. And when Clinton left office, several of his former staffers started up Third Way to discourage the party from reverting to its leftward ways. During the Obama era, the group issued similar warnings about the rise of Democratic populism and played consequential policy roles -- most memorably encouraging lawmakers to abandon the pursuit of a public option during the crafting of health care reform in 2010. On the eve of a post-Obama America, Third Way's role appears more defensive or, at least, complicated by the few candidates running for the White House. Far from cheerleading Hillary Clinton's presidential candidacy, it warned her not to mimic her nearest competitor.
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Though officials at Third Way warned about potential missteps Democrats might make at the presidential level, much of the hour-long briefing on Wednesday was spent arguing that the party's success in such elections has masked fundamental problems elsewhere. And on a purely numerical level, the math is indisputable. As Jonathan Cowan, Third Way's president, noted, Democrats hold the fewest offices in Congress, statehouses and governors' mansions since 1928. The factors behind this, however, are deeply disputed. In its presentation, Third Way argued that a focus on issues like a $15 minimum wage, expanding Social Security benefits and advocating for single-payer health care all create the political dynamics that make Democrats electorally vulnerable. But few Democrats have run on this platform in past races. During the disastrous 2014 midterm elections, a number of senators called for expanding Social Security benefits. But talk of single-payer health care was nonexistent outside highly progressive (and largely dismissed) quarters. And the debate at the time was about raising the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour, not $15. Third Way itself calls for a wage floor of $10-$12, based on average hourly wages and regional cost variations.
Third Way's platform calls for passage of free trade deals like the Trans Pacific Partnership, making the research and development tax credit permanent and revenue-neutral corporate tax reform. The group advocates for raising tax rates on capital gains from 20 to 25 percent and for limiting deductions for high wage earners. But on the whole, it is the more corporate-minded plank of the Democratic platform, much to the distaste of its critics.
"They do nothing to challenge corporate power in the workplace, other than a higher minimum wage," said Larry Mishel, president of the Economic Policy Institute, a Third Way adversary. "If they dont get behind policies that will really help generate middle class wage and compensation growth then theyre missing an essential piece of whats needed, economically and politically."
Michael Briggs, Sanders' top spokesman, was a touch more sardonic. "Did Mr. Daley have anything to say about all of the American factories that closed or the millions of American jobs that were lost because he pushed NAFTA through Congress?" he asked.
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Segami
Oct 2015
OP
Look at how they race to stop people from saying things they do not like. It's funny.
bravenak
Oct 2015
#5
Sometimes someone who complains about racism posts articles written by a racist
cui bono
Oct 2015
#163
And sometime people watch their group harass BLM and the AA group and ignore it.
bravenak
Oct 2015
#166
And sometimes the AA group allows its group to be used to smear a particular candidate
cui bono
Oct 2015
#175
Yes. Us AAs always allow ourselves to be used. No minds of our own. No agency.
bravenak
Oct 2015
#180
Yes, please, keep putting words in my mouth. The hosts have minds of their own.
cui bono
Oct 2015
#188
Not that I believe you, but that absolves you? You posted an article written by a racist.
cui bono
Oct 2015
#171
Not what I'm doing. Just pointing that you use a racist's opinion when it suits you.
cui bono
Oct 2015
#187
It's something you made up and this is the kind of bullshit I promised I would call you out on.
Bread and Circus
Oct 2015
#25
If you do not like it, address it. I can define a term if I please. Language is made to be added to
bravenak
Oct 2015
#30
I didn't read those threads. Additionally I doubt you need my protection and I will say this.
Bread and Circus
Oct 2015
#104
Okay. Just think about how it looks from my end when folks correct me on polite language but ignore
bravenak
Oct 2015
#108
If you dont think the AA community hasnt been unfairly labelled in a variety
Bread and Circus
Oct 2015
#97
Where were you when people were calling me racist and race baiter and race nagger?
bravenak
Oct 2015
#101
Thank you. If I had said what I wanted in response to that foolishness, it would be 7-0 hide
Number23
Oct 2015
#106
omg... so we're just allowed to change definitions now? Why, because the person who is making up bs
cui bono
Oct 2015
#169
Not everything is about finance, but they can now effortlessly dominate *any* issue
cprise
Oct 2015
#145
That is because you got more of your experience of racism from books than from experience.
bravenak
Oct 2015
#149
Oh, the "Progressive" Policy Institute and the "Progressive" Coalition for Jobs..
cascadiance
Oct 2015
#9
The Third Way was a conservative move to fight progressivism w/o being tied to the Republicons.
rhett o rick
Oct 2015
#18
Spelling aside, supporting the 1% will not get social justice. They are lying. They
rhett o rick
Oct 2015
#23
Supporting a candidate who does not address the harassment of blm and other aa's by
bravenak
Oct 2015
#31
I couldn't agree more with these two statements, "How you respond to events tells alot about how
rhett o rick
Oct 2015
#61
And Bernie will possibly need to be interrupted to notive the black ommunity and their plight.
bravenak
Oct 2015
#67
It is not clear to my black self or most other blacks that she lagged behind him on race.
bravenak
Oct 2015
#120
Funny how having racist hate mail sent to ones home might change ones mind. Funny that. Nt
bravenak
Oct 2015
#150
Oh, no! I'm watching them talk about the race card right now. Just like I see republicans do.
bravenak
Oct 2015
#159
Or maybe he could just continue to meet with Campaign Zero, as he has been, to work on solutions.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Oct 2015
#114
Yes. And his fans should quietly follow suit so as to not make it look contradictory.
bravenak
Oct 2015
#118
Quiet as far as not needing to announce to the world that they are doing it. Not in volume.
bravenak
Oct 2015
#136
I think everyone has issues that they perceive aren't getting enough attention...
cascadiance
Oct 2015
#151
Learning How to talk and Think Like a Down to Earth Working Class Person is Essential
McKim
Oct 2015
#102
Yeah. I'm sure it's hard for me as a black women to speak 'down to earth'. Yeah. Okay.
bravenak
Oct 2015
#103
Exactly Third Way is simply the REICH trying to buy the Democratic party. The problem is We are not
Vincardog
Oct 2015
#58
No. You don't tell me what to do, no. That no. The one where I just say no because I do not like
bravenak
Oct 2015
#37
I ASKED you to define a "Third Way Progressive" in the context of the Third Way..
frylock
Oct 2015
#44
Third Way Progressives are to the right of Third Way Democrats on social justice.
bravenak
Oct 2015
#57
The women were addressing the city of Seattle as containing white supremacist liberalism.
bravenak
Oct 2015
#65
So, gonna correct your claims that #bowdownbernie was not connected to them? (nt)
jeff47
Oct 2015
#217
And the other type hates that so they go soft on social justice as a reaction.
bravenak
Oct 2015
#71
Again, there isn't now any such thing any more than there is now a married bachelor
Jack Rabbit
Oct 2015
#138
I swear to God I never trust a group of folks who say 'Race Card' day after day.
bravenak
Oct 2015
#224
I have never had so many white people gang up on me and call me racist before.
bravenak
Oct 2015
#226
I am sure Bernie won't notice me, let alone help. He voted for mass incarceration.nt
bravenak
Oct 2015
#238
I also believe he had good intentions but when he became president, those that are
rhett o rick
Oct 2015
#121
Message to base: Don't you liberal bastards dare think about having a more progressive government!
Scuba
Oct 2015
#39
As someone who tabled on a local issue last year, I heard again and again from
truedelphi
Oct 2015
#81
And President Obama promised that ACA Plans and Medicare would go down in price as each
DhhD
Oct 2015
#134
Yeah, I've been overwhelmed lately with all the nasty graphics of Bernie,
passiveporcupine
Oct 2015
#173
Yeah, we better not allow these crazy thoughts of equality, peace and real freedom to enter
Dont call me Shirley
Oct 2015
#91
All the undoing of FDR they've done over the last 35 years would be ruined, just ruined.....
Dont call me Shirley
Oct 2015
#241
In other words, the status quo suits you fine since you are doing well under it.
Live and Learn
Oct 2015
#199
Out of curiosity, can you point to any thread that needed a photoshopped image of Sanders to "sell"?
brooklynite
Oct 2015
#183
Thom Hartmann read off a list of the Third Way members all but a few were investment bankers.
Snotcicles
Oct 2015
#229
So does that mean that HRC is going to back peddle on some of Bernie's positions?
d_legendary1
Oct 2015
#230