2016 Postmortem

NanceGreggs

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129. And yours.

Sun Nov 1, 2015, 02:39 AM

Nov 2015

I just never figured you for the "forget what I said because I have no facts to back it up - so let's talk about what the OP said instead" type.

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Bernie is not a Democrat. What gives his supporters the right to criticize the super-delegates [View all] hill2016 Nov 2015 OP

Link? JackInGreen Nov 2015 #1

This is probably a recycled attack from 2008 jfern Nov 2015 #2

I'm thinkin JackInGreen Nov 2015 #6

It's best to ignore the flamebait. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #8

True JackInGreen Nov 2015 #10

I'm guilty of it too. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #13

Yes correct! yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #179

Some ops don't deserve a reply. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #213

I would just rather yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #215

Lol! Good plan! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #216

I'm thinking hill2016 Nov 2015 #17

Yeah, well tough shit. frylock Nov 2015 #28

my sentiments excactly. litlbilly Nov 2015 #109

I havnt heard anyone say that they oughtent on thei JackInGreen Nov 2015 #38

holy fucking shit. Phlem Nov 2015 #45

Have you decided who you are supporting? This would be the same, if you have made a decision Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #55

Because it renders the voting moot. djean111 Nov 2015 #143

If giving an opinion about which candidate renders the voting moot, there will be very few Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #147

Super-delegates are only useful in a close race between two presidential nominees. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #178

He cannot tell Democrats how to run their primaries. Not his place. He did not join OUR party. bravenak Nov 2015 #3

He's been a member of the Democratic caucus for almost 25 years jfern Nov 2015 #9

That does not make him a member of the Democratic party. bravenak Nov 2015 #12

Who cares? He's more of a Democrat than some 3rd way hawk. jfern Nov 2015 #14

then hill2016 Nov 2015 #20

Well lets see jfern Nov 2015 #23

Apparently swear a blood oath. pinstikfartherin Nov 2015 #51

Sounds like shackin' up to me... LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #53

run as a Democrat hill2016 Nov 2015 #61

In 2014. He's running as a Democrat in 2016. merrily Nov 2015 #123

Bernie consistently wins the democratic nomination in Vermont JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #134

He is part of the party. When are you going to stop repeating the falsehood that he is not? merrily Nov 2015 #103

Nope, really, he's not. He's nothing like being a Democrat. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #26

He is not a democrat bravenak Nov 2015 #52

The DNC obviously thinks otherwise and seems to trump the unsupported opinion of some DUers merrily Nov 2015 #69

I don't believe I've read anywhere where the DNC says Bernie is a Dem Sheepshank Nov 2015 #76

He would not have been in the debates for Democrats if the DNC did not consider him a Dem. They also merrily Nov 2015 #84

It's mind boggling that you even have to point out something so fricking obvious n/t deutsey Nov 2015 #145

I know, right? merrily Nov 2015 #241

Courtesies and politeness isn't the same thing as announcing Bernie is a Democrat Sheepshank Nov 2015 #149

Courtesy, LOL! Please try to grasp Vermont voter registration law. It's relatively simple. merrily Nov 2015 #209

Bernie could have run on th Rep ticket too, right? Sheepshank Nov 2015 #211

Bernie never asked the DNC for permission to run as a Democrat, nor did he have to. merrily Nov 2015 #214

I been told if you are voting for Bernie yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #183

Hmmm. Just posted this in reply to someone else. merrily Nov 2015 #231

OH i didn't see that!!! yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #232

I am so sorry that you had to read a racist statement like that anywhere, let alone on DU. merrily Nov 2015 #237

P.S. You might check the home page of democrats. org right now. merrily Nov 2015 #93

But where..anywhere have the words been used from DNC that Bernie is a Dem Sheepshank Nov 2015 #150

that is baldly false dsc Nov 2015 #156

That is correct about O'Malley. Hillary was a Republican beyond high school though, even merrily Nov 2015 #212

You might want to check the Sanders campaign wiki page VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #234

So does DU Mnpaul Nov 2015 #88

Good point, but the DNC trumps even Skinner. merrily Nov 2015 #95

Nope...only Bernie supporters try to press the meme that Sheepshank Nov 2015 #151

Why don't you look this up Mnpaul Nov 2015 #154

As a independent socialist it makes sense that Dem platform Sheepshank Nov 2015 #155

Why are you avoiding the term "Democratic Socialist" Mnpaul Nov 2015 #161

I didn't avoid anything Sheepshank Nov 2015 #162

You used Independent Socialist Mnpaul Nov 2015 #165

He is an Independent and a Socialist Sheepshank Nov 2015 #174

Democratic Socialist who used to run as an Independent does not conflate to merrily Nov 2015 #235

As I'd already mentioned, I'm not attempting to create a new political philosophy. Sheepshank Nov 2015 #248

Apparently, you have your own definition of "fact." Bernie is a Democratic Socialist running for the merrily Nov 2015 #249

Bernie has Unequivocally stated he is NOT a DEMOCRAT Sheepshank Nov 2015 #252

How about we give his specific chosen identity, for this election: Karma13612 Nov 2015 #225

Well if you don't think Bernie has denigrated Democrats Sheepshank Nov 2015 #251

This one is just dumb, too treestar Nov 2015 #164

Don't take the bait. frylock Nov 2015 #30

Caucussing WITH Democrats does not make you one.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #233

Where did Bernie tell Democrats how to run anything. And, yes, he did join, when he announced merrily Nov 2015 #97

Someone on ignore must have replied. It kicked this post back up. bravenak Nov 2015 #102

................. polly7 Nov 2015 #206

Oh Booohooo. get over yourself. our party my ass litlbilly Nov 2015 #110

I can't get over myself. I am too awesome. Thx. bravenak Nov 2015 #111

Since you are my friend you are awesome! yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #186

Thank you! bravenak Nov 2015 #239

:) yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #240

lol m-lekktor Nov 2015 #189

Never!!! bravenak Nov 2015 #238

He isn't, we are. Don't like it? That's unfortunate. TheKentuckian Nov 2015 #259

The same right all Americans enjoy.... daleanime Nov 2015 #4

Nobody has a right to say anything if they don'lt support Clinton Armstead Nov 2015 #5

We all make our choices. Bernie chose to be redstateblues Nov 2015 #19

I wasn't aware that being a socialist was a disqualifier for our party n/t Hydra Nov 2015 #54

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #139

Passing that, Bernie is not a socialist. merrily Nov 2015 #244

Untrue. He chose to be a Democratic Socialist. But, you knew that. merrily Nov 2015 #242

I don't remember him saying anything about them mythology Nov 2015 #7

I am a long time registered Democratic voter and I have as much right for a say as any Hillary Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #11

how long have you been hill2016 Nov 2015 #15

Irrelevant. Constitutional rights are not waived by passage of time. merrily Nov 2015 #22

Show me where in the consitution it bans super delegates. eom MohRokTah Nov 2015 #33

Read the OP again. And maybe try to follow a line of reasoning. merrily Nov 2015 #47

You might want to read the Constitution Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #141

Oooh, what a condescending suggestion! Especially for one so utterly misplaced! merrily Nov 2015 #217

Political parties existed before the inception of the United States. Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #220

The Constitution does not have extra territorial reach. And, again, please see Reply 47. merrily Nov 2015 #221

Since 1992, when I turned 18. jeff47 Nov 2015 #167

You complaint is directed at Democratic supporters of Bernie Sanders not how long one Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #219

Bernie is a Democrat or he would be ineligible to run for the Democratic nomination. merrily Nov 2015 #16

hm... hill2016 Nov 2015 #24

My prior post, which you seem to have ignored, addressed that. merrily Nov 2015 #29

which previous post number hill2016 Nov 2015 #49

I think we are attempting to reason with topic changing click bait conservative disruptors. Who seem Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #222

They do not outnumber traditional Democrats on this site. Far from it. merrily Nov 2015 #223

Hi thanks for the encouraging reply. nt Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #253

here's the last Vermont ballot hill2016 Nov 2015 #63

Running as a Democrat before is not required to run as a Democrat in 2016. Nor does merrily Nov 2015 #67

as a newcomer and outsider hill2016 Nov 2015 #71

Make up your mind. Is he a newcomer or an outsider? He can't be both. merrily Nov 2015 #90

I am a Democrat. I can criticize whatever I damn well please. Scootaloo Nov 2015 #18

as an outsider hill2016 Nov 2015 #65

He's on the Democratic ballot with the blessing of the Democratic party, running as a Democrat Scootaloo Nov 2015 #70

On the Dem ticket...but not as a Dem since he has never declared himself to be a Dem Sheepshank Nov 2015 #152

Again. Take it up with the party. Scootaloo Nov 2015 #157

You are confusing two issues Sheepshank Nov 2015 #158

I'm telling you that the party has welcomed him onto the ballot Scootaloo Nov 2015 #159

Why would I "bitch" about something to the DNC that I don't think is a big deal? Sheepshank Nov 2015 #160

If you don't think it's a big deal, why have you been posting about it for two days? merrily Nov 2015 #245

Because regardless of the DNC's political maneuverings, Bernie isn't a Dem Sheepshank Nov 2015 #246

Deflection fail. Either it's important enough to you or it isn't. merrily Nov 2015 #247

I agree but go further. I'm not a Westboro Baptist Church member but I criticize them, too. Jim Lane Nov 2015 #138

Myth 4! pinebox Nov 2015 #21

aren't hill2016 Nov 2015 #25

nope pinebox Nov 2015 #34

Yep. eom MohRokTah Nov 2015 #36

Nope. eom Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #57

The people within the Party with actual authority to decide who is a Democrat have decided Bernie is merrily Nov 2015 #37

bingo. pinebox Nov 2015 #39

Agree with this. eom saltpoint Nov 2015 #87

I second this yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #192

When he ran for the Senate, he was an Indy. Running for POTUS, he is a Democrat or he would merrily Nov 2015 #46

That would be the Constitution. saltpoint Nov 2015 #27

these flamebait OPs are great for building the ignore list. Otherwise, useless. NRaleighLiberal Nov 2015 #31

Right?! JackInGreen Nov 2015 #42

I won't have an ignore list but yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #191

. NRaleighLiberal Nov 2015 #196

backatcha! yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #199

Oh, who fucking GIVES a SHIT about fucking superdelegates sibelian Nov 2015 #32

Who the fuck are you? frylock Nov 2015 #35

Bingo! Suddenly has more authority than the DNC to decide who is a Democrat! LOL! merrily Nov 2015 #40

but.... pinebox Nov 2015 #43

Anything less juvenile to say? shenmue Nov 2015 #117

If you're defending the OP, I don't know that your judgment can be trusted.. frylock Nov 2015 #122

I don't know, maybe the First Amendment. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #41

the right to criticize anything is my right as a U.S. American aidbo Nov 2015 #44

wtf????? delrem Nov 2015 #48

Early on Hillary was a Goldwater girl. saltpoint Nov 2015 #50

Also went to a couple of Republican national conventions. merrily Nov 2015 #62

Yep. So by the original poster's own rules, saltpoint Nov 2015 #72

Where have you been??? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #74

Hey there. You saltpoint Nov 2015 #79

Yes, that was tragic. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #81

So then Elizabeth Warren ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #73

I think you know better than to make such saltpoint Nov 2015 #77

HRC was a "Republican" ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #89

Sorry, this is about candidacies. If Sanders is saltpoint Nov 2015 #99

And I haven't replied to the OP. NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #105

When you miss a point on purpose, saltpoint Nov 2015 #107

I reply to posts ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #112

Hard to say when your saltpoint Nov 2015 #113

As I said ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #120

It would be my impression that the saltpoint Nov 2015 #121

Long time DU tradition ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #125

Thanks for your input saltpoint Nov 2015 #126

And yours. NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #129

Me either, Nance. So what Hillary was a Goldwater girl before she could vote? What in the world Cha Nov 2015 #131

Several untrue statements in your post, NanceGreggs. merrily Nov 2015 #226

Hey, it's Old Crusoe! Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #91

Blue, howdy-do and all saltpoint Nov 2015 #92

I know. Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #94

Evidently Jeb! though he had this one in the bag. saltpoint Nov 2015 #100

saltpoint! Dr. Strange Nov 2015 #166

Dr. Strange! In the flesh. saltpoint Nov 2015 #171

Morrison did indeed write some heavy lyrics. Dr. Strange Nov 2015 #172

Good question. I am looking saltpoint Nov 2015 #173

So you like super-delegates? Isn't that special? The whole process is exceedingly special. highprincipleswork Nov 2015 #56

the hill2016 Nov 2015 #66

Nope. It an undemocratic process and should be changed, but you pretend otherwise to help your merrily Nov 2015 #75

truly can't appreciate the consciousness of the usual Clinton fan highprincipleswork Nov 2015 #133

The first amendment. PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #58

The right to complain falls under the ninth amendment Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #59

First, Ninth and Tenth. merrily Nov 2015 #68

Sniff sniff DJ13 Nov 2015 #60

They can criticize all they want. MADem Nov 2015 #64

Delegates and their involvement in the process bkkyosemite Nov 2015 #83

It's a problem to you. It's not a problem to me and most long-term Democrats. nt MADem Nov 2015 #85

Interesting Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #78

Can he still run as a independant and if so, could this benefit him? Pauldg47 Nov 2015 #80

I don't think so. MADem Nov 2015 #86

Anyone, including Hillary, can still run as an independent if state law (state by state) allows him merrily Nov 2015 #106

K&R RandySF Nov 2015 #82

I am not worried about it. Kalidurga Nov 2015 #96

A question zalinda Nov 2015 #98

Good points and this crap is turning young people off the Democratic Party as well. merrily Nov 2015 #101

I've often thought that it would be good if people ran on their ideas mindwalker_i Nov 2015 #114

IMO, the Clintons and their DLC have had a very detrimental impact on the D brand. Her branding is merrily Nov 2015 #116

And her logo is dominated by a big, red arrow mindwalker_i Nov 2015 #127

Yes, and that did account for a good portion of the laughter mentioned in my prior post. merrily Nov 2015 #130

You edit does not save your OP. A candidate and his supporters are not a single entity or person. merrily Nov 2015 #104

Guess you conveniently forgot that he has ALWAYS caucused with Democrats. SoapBox Nov 2015 #108

No, he hasn't. He voted against the Brady Bill five times. shenmue Nov 2015 #118

+1 ucrdem Nov 2015 #124

We have the right as citizens to question the fitness of candidates for the presidency. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #115

Why does it seem some democrats are insisting on yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #190

Some Democrats seem to see The Party as a sort of cult with worshippers and high priests. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #195

love that quote yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #198

Do itashimashte. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #201

The entire frame of mind of this post is repulsive. Old Crow Nov 2015 #119

I can criticize whoever the fuck I want to criticize ibegurpard Nov 2015 #128

The "Bernie is not a Democrat" argument is tired and stupid. Gore1FL Nov 2015 #132

Bwahahahaha! Best joke I've heard this morning! Fearless Nov 2015 #135

If a candidate wants your votes DonCoquixote Nov 2015 #136

Hey, if a pro-war, pro-Wall Street, pro-fracking, pro-H1B Visas woman can run as a Democrat ... Scuba Nov 2015 #137

Sanders supports the Dem platform much more than many with the official D after the name n/t eridani Nov 2015 #140

Let's see. Because they are not democratic? mhatrw Nov 2015 #142

Wow...DU has gone completely off the rails deutsey Nov 2015 #144

And what will you do to stop us? demwing Nov 2015 #146

Oh KEWL. A fucking reeking stinkbait thread from Camp Weathervane. 99Forever Nov 2015 #148

The spin cycle is set on "nuts". From "Bernie is a warhawk" to "Bernie is not a Democrat" GoneFishin Nov 2015 #153

True all the ranting about how the Democratic Party is not treestar Nov 2015 #163

No, entitled is demanding Democrats shut up and blindly follow. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2015 #170

My birth gives me the right to criticize anything I want to criticize. Next. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2015 #168

I am a Democrat. I have been officially a Democrat since I turned 18. jeff47 Nov 2015 #169

This! Jeff yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #197

Sanders is more of a Democrat than Hillary will ever be AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #175

I have the right, thank you HassleCat Nov 2015 #176

Perhaps that we are members of the Democratic party??? LoveIsNow Nov 2015 #177

Uhm because most of his supporters ARE democrats! kenfrequed Nov 2015 #180

We can criticize and complain whatever we want. This isn't a coronation. Vinca Nov 2015 #181

The First Amendment. Uncle Joe Nov 2015 #182

The First Fucking Amendment gives me the right to criticize whomever the fuck I want. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #184

Despite what he tells his supporters and constituents, Bernie IS a Democrat - according to his BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #185

Simple answer. We are. Democrats. nt LWolf Nov 2015 #187

The First Amendment. Motown_Johnny Nov 2015 #188

What gives us the right? Are you fucking kidding? bowens43 Nov 2015 #193

I say...fuck seniority. davidn3600 Nov 2015 #194

I remember a time when DU had "Unrec" yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #200

Yes, my goodness, the system that gave us Mondale/Ferraro jberryhill Nov 2015 #202

The Superdelegates... FarPoint Nov 2015 #203

Because the bulk of his supporters are Democrats. Zen Democrat Nov 2015 #204

Well...if he's not a Democrat, are we as his supporters considered part of the party? madfloridian Nov 2015 #205

Of course we are. And he is a Democrat, so there is no need to go further. merrily Nov 2015 #227

Because we are Democrats and we can. Autumn Nov 2015 #207

'pay your dues' is a real turn off LettuceSea Nov 2015 #208

you Hillary people are unfuckingbelievable! m-lekktor Nov 2015 #210

K&R RandySF Nov 2015 #218

A simple litmus test postatomic Nov 2015 #224

That is not the litmus test for who is a Democrat. And Sanders is running as Democrat. merrily Nov 2015 #243

Who brought up Nader? postatomic Nov 2015 #254

He ran when he was not with the Green Party, too. And, no, it's not a litmus test for deciding who merrily Nov 2015 #255

Are you running for office? postatomic Nov 2015 #257

Nothing in your post has to do with who is a Democrat and who isn't, but no worries! merrily Nov 2015 #258

Because the supporters are Democrats? Babel_17 Nov 2015 #228

I thought he had switched... Mike Nelson Nov 2015 #229

Because their machinists and nothing more, part of the reason we're here . orpupilofnature57 Nov 2015 #230

So many people taking the bait Capt. Obvious Nov 2015 #236

Something called "The First Amendment". Heard of it? John Poet Nov 2015 #250

As an American, I have the right to criticize any elected official. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #256