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CharlotteVale

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47. Perfect description of her and her motives.

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Was Hillary Being Sexist When She Claimed to be a Victim of Men Shouting her Down? [View all] sabrina 1 Nov 2015 OP

I still don't get why the word "shouting" has any gender connotation at all. CharlotteVale Nov 2015 #1

I don't either. It was phony, it sounded like an act, 'poor me I'm a woman and they shout me down'. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #5

I suspect the "shouting" attack, which was brought up in Iowa, was a feeble attempt at trying to Dont call me Shirley Nov 2015 #23

Because it wasn't just the word, it was the sexist characterization, most women who boston bean Nov 2015 #28

LOL. nt. polly7 Nov 2015 #32

I know sexism when I see it. Hillary cheapened the meaning CharlotteVale Nov 2015 #40

Hillary didn't cheapen anything. She pointed out a sexist trope. boston bean Nov 2015 #43

She did the same thing to Obama also 'pointed out a sexist trope'. Same thing, different campaign. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #90

Weak is a good way to put it. The problem is Hillary can't argue against Bernie on any issue on the merits... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2015 #80

Yes, without a doubt. bvf Nov 2015 #2

I would say no. MuseRider Nov 2015 #3

When a woman is willing to falsely imply sexism against an opponent for a job, that makes ALL women sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #6

No, not at all and I am sorry you saw it that way. MuseRider Nov 2015 #9

Sorry then, I misunderstood you and apologize. What I keep in mind now is that Hillary has sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #13

Not a problem MuseRider Nov 2015 #14

What woman is falsely implying sexism? boston bean Nov 2015 #29

+1 demmiblue Nov 2015 #64

or issues like the continued failed war on mj questionseverything Nov 2015 #4

Yes. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #7

Hillary never voiced offense in real time during the debate, it took two weeks before she started Uncle Joe Nov 2015 #8

"Cynical political calculation" = Bingo! CharlotteVale Nov 2015 #10

Wow, I hadn't seen that, thanks Uncle Joe. Makes me cringe as a woman. So many women who ARE BEING sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #11

That's a good and most profound post as well, sabrina. Uncle Joe Nov 2015 #12

Perfect. n/t MuseRider Nov 2015 #15

Good catch. Her original distortion was bad enough since she has said the same thing Armstead Nov 2015 #18

"I've been told to stop, and, I quote, 'shouting about gun violence.' It's just, when women talk... progree Nov 2015 #36

The Democratic Debate was Oct. 13th the Benghazi Hearing was Oct 22nd, so Hillary first Uncle Joe Nov 2015 #48

And when men talk apparently some people think they are sexist apparently. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #77

When you don't have the issues hootinholler Nov 2015 #58

I agree she is "'using one's gender to garner sympathy or gain political advantage" thesquanderer Nov 2015 #16

"Vote for me because I'm male and I'm stronger than my female opponent who is weak" Armstead Nov 2015 #21

She did the same thing to Obama. No one saw the sexism then either. Seems to be a pattern. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #92

She is trying to use her gender to her advantage, I agree. thesquanderer Nov 2015 #95

It is humorous to hear someone from the .1% play the gender card. jalan48 Nov 2015 #17

No SCantiGOP Nov 2015 #19

Was Obama wrong when he responded to Hillary doing the same thing, 'playing the victim' sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #89

Bernie has supported rights for women his entire life tblue Nov 2015 #20

I'm sure some here will make that claim. JTFrog Nov 2015 #22

Well we're not talking about anyone BUT Hillary here. She made a statement that was sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #25

You could look at it from the other direction. Using sexist tropes and characterizations boston bean Nov 2015 #31

So both Obama AND Bernie were being sexist? When a powerful, wealthy woman sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #91

Do you have an actual QUOTE from her saying that she said. ... George II Nov 2015 #24

from two days after the debate, in San Antonio passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #33

More than heavily implied. She even used "and I quote..." in one speech. That's a full assault. n/t JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #37

Thanks for the help, passiveporcupine, but no it's not "good enough" - in fact...... George II Nov 2015 #38

See post 37. Who else could she be quoting? n/t JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #39

Don't know. You posted "and I quote", so I presume you know and perhaps have the rest of... George II Nov 2015 #41

Your full quote JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #42

Who told her to 'stop'? sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #70

Whie I agree that the title of the OP is incorrect passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #45

Can we stop here, please? HassleCat Nov 2015 #26

+1 Matariki Nov 2015 #62

Hey, you can go back to 2008 where you will find Obama Supporters and Obama himself, admonishing sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #82

Hillary loves to play the victim. It is what she does best. n/t A Simple Game Nov 2015 #27

A lot of that is from the "vast right wing conspiracy" which happens to be real eridani Nov 2015 #69

Playing the gender card because she's a Woman ? No because she is by nature an opportunist, ambiguous orpupilofnature57 Nov 2015 #30

Perfect description of her and her motives. CharlotteVale Nov 2015 #47

Results of my jury service Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #34

Wait! Someone is trying to silence me because I'm a woman? Lol, the IRONY of that alert sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #44

Hey, be careful what you say...you could be called a sexist next passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #46

Lol, well just because I'm a woman doesn't mean I COULDN'T be a sexist. But I definitely would sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #53

+ 1000 for Courage and Vision !!!!!!! orpupilofnature57 Nov 2015 #54

I like your sigline, I try to live by that! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #74

The perceived slight doesn't exist. Agschmid Nov 2015 #87

I wouldn't make that claim. Nor did I. I was pointing out the irony of the alert considering the sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #93

Kicked and recommended! No doubt. nt Enthusiast Nov 2015 #35

Sexist? I don't know. Manipulative? Absolutely. LoveIsNow Nov 2015 #49

True, but isn't sexism manipulative in itself? Using sex to manipulate someone, in this case Bernie sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #75

Oh hell yes Catherina Nov 2015 #50

Remember that well. polly7 Nov 2015 #52

+1000000000 azmom Nov 2015 #57

they loathe men, transsexuals, gay men, and insist that women should stick to their little sphere MisterP Nov 2015 #61

I noticed that, too. /nt Marr Nov 2015 #67

Yes I believe you are right. Makes you wonder, all that divisiveness AGAIN. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #79

yes she was Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #51

Obama to Clinton: Stop Playing the Victim portlander23 Nov 2015 #55

Yes, because men are oppressed by the matriarchy BainsBane Nov 2015 #56

Who was that comment intended for? sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #81

Quite the card player. moondust Nov 2015 #59

Since there are posts daily on the sexists charge I am convinced this was a deliberate statement by Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #60

Seriously? I think the record on this is clear now. I hope Hillary and her campaign have learned a sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #72

Hillary is not a sexist and Bernie is not a sexist OKNancy Nov 2015 #63

And yet Bernie AND his supporters have been accused, by Hillary supporters, of being both. I agree sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #65

I've never seen an outright accusation that Bernie is either OKNancy Nov 2015 #66

Well, I've seen the word 'sexist' together with the name of my candidate. I don't like that. Sorry sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #71

no she was being Hillary olddots Nov 2015 #68

I noticed that those in the business of profiting from smear campaigns don't expect pushback for sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #73

No RandySF Nov 2015 #76

I disagree. Using gender to try to score political points is sexist. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #78

It was cowardly and it was backstabbing. Kalidurga Nov 2015 #83

Not if it was a generic comment about how women's ideas get ignored eridani Nov 2015 #84

She could easily have refused to take the case. Divernan Nov 2015 #96

Just goes to show. Opposition research is easier to do than ever, and the Repubs are going to-- eridani Nov 2015 #97

Was it sexist for HRC to call Bill's victim Monica a "narcissistic looney toon"? Divernan Nov 2015 #85

Bill's female chief of staff coined the phrase "bimbo eruption squad" Divernan Nov 2015 #86

'Bimbo' is sexist if other people say it, but by the rules I'm seeing, if you're Hillary, there will sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #88

More war on Christmas. JoePhilly Nov 2015 #94