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Divernan

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96. She could easily have refused to take the case.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 12:19 PM
Nov 2015

She was running a law clinic in a local law school, which clinic did pro bono work. I ran such a clinic for 2 years, and as director, I had total control of which cases we accepted. We had more than enough landlord-tenant, consumer protection, simple (not complex) divorce cases, disability claims - all at a level at which law students learned the basics, and very poor people got much needed legal help. The students did all the prep work, under the supervision of myself & 2 other attorneys. I point out, we had a very tight budget to cover costs like filing fees, getting copies of documents, court papers, etc. We could not afford to take complex cases requiring expert medical witnesses. I can not imagine accepting a criminal case and putting law students to work on developing a defense for a 41 year old man who admitted fondling a 12 year old girl in his car, but denied raping her, and the prosecution had DNA evidence from her panties which matched the "client".

Hillary was not ordered or forced to take on the defense of the accused rapist. She did not make any effort to get out of representing him.

As been her long time pattern, her story "evolves" as the circumstances of negative publicity dictate. Clinton, in “Living History,” said she was “appointed” to the case. During her EARLIER taped sessions, Clinton said the prosecutor in the case called her, saying the accused rapist wanted a female lawyer, and asked if she would do it “as a favor.” `
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/hillary-clinton-1975-arkansas-rape-victim-speaks-108124

Audio tapes were uncovered from the Clinton archives at the University of Arkansas. In the tapes, from over 30 years ago, Clinton describes how she was able to find a loophole in the system to discredit the evidence against her client. She is heard laughing as she describes the tactics she used to do so. The recordings prompted the victim of the trial to speak out for the first time in years.http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/06/hillary-clinton-dogged-by-1975-rape-case/

(We all know how Hillary laughs at incredibly offensive times - "We came. We saw. He died.&quot
How's that for FEMINISM, folks? Letting an accused rapist, whom she believed to be guilty, game the system by having a female lawyer to influence a jury? That's sexism at its very rankest, and Hill jumped at the chance and went to the most extreme of lengths to win the case. Agreeing to represent the scum was only the beginning.

Cause you know Hillary - combative to the nth degree, has to win at all costs, can never admit defeat (which is why she hid for over 30 years the fact that she failed the Washington DC bar exam, and moved to Arkansas because she managed to pass the easier Arkansas bar.) She actually went to the lengths of flying into New York City and retaining the expert witness services of a man who was a Nobel Laureate, to get him to write a letter stating that the missing piece of the 12 year old victim's panties, by which the Arkansas prosecutor had obtained DNA evidence matching Hillary's client, but which had subsequently been lost so could not be retested meant that there was not sufficient material left to retest.

Just how much of the law school clinic's limited budget did Hillary squander on obtaining this level of proof, rather than simply getting a local Arkansas forensic expert to testify to the same thing? It has also been uncontested that Hillary never provided any proof/testimony to corroborate her claims that the 12 year old had a history of promiscuity with older men.

According to an oft-quoted 2008 Newsday article (which has since disappeared from the Internet) Hillary Rodham supposedly questioned the sixth grader’s honesty and claimed she had made false accusations in the past. Rodham/Clinton implied that the girl often fantasized and sought out “older men” like Taylor. The proof of Rodham/Clinton's part is in a July 1975 affidavit signed “Hillary D. Rodham” in compact cursive.

How many of the law school clinic's impoverished clients got de minimis representation because HRC blew the budget on a hot shot New York expert?

And here's the link re her failing the DC bar exam:

Hillary Clinton failed the D.C. bar exam after law school, something she hid from her best friends for 30 years until disclosing it in passing in her autobiography, "Living History." Bernstein suggests that blow to her ego may have played a role in her decision to move to Arkansas, where she had passed the bar.

Hillary Clinton failed the D.C. bar exam after law school, something she hid from her best friends for 30 years until disclosing it in passing in her autobiography, "Living History." Bernstein suggests that blow to her ego may have played a role in her decision to move to Arkansas, where she had passed the bar.

link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

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Perfect. n/t MuseRider Nov 2015 #15
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I'm sure some here will make that claim. JTFrog Nov 2015 #22
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Do you have an actual QUOTE from her saying that she said. ... George II Nov 2015 #24
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Your full quote JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #42
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Results of my jury service Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #34
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Hey, be careful what you say...you could be called a sexist next passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #46
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She could easily have refused to take the case. Divernan Nov 2015 #96
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