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89. I don't like big banks screwing people and becoming bigger in the process. And I don't trust Hillary
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:28 AM
Nov 2015

to end their unscrupulous actions.

It has nothing to do with liking Hillary. It has everything to do with keeping our country safe from banks who have repeatedly violated US laws and utilize loopholes to skirt the law.

Right now the big banks are taking the derivative trade that was at the heart of the last great recession and moving them offshore to avoid regulation thanks to a loop hole in Dodd Frank. A loophole that was created with one sentence added to a 228 page amendment which was authored by Gary Gensler. The same Gary Gensler who is a former partner at Goldman Sachs and is now part of the Clinton campaign.

Vanishing Act

U.S. banks moved billions of dollars in trades beyond Washington’s reach

By Charles Levinson

Filed Aug. 21, 2015, 2 p.m. GMT


Part 2: The story of how Wall Street’s giants got around derivatives rules imposed by the CFTC after the financial crisis. The fix: tweaking contracts and shifting deals offshore.

NEW YORK – This spring, traders and analysts working deep in the global swaps markets began picking up peculiar readings: Hundreds of billions of dollars of trades by U.S. banks had seemingly vanished.

“We saw strange things in the data,” said Chris Barnes, a former swaps trader now with ClarusFT, a London-based data firm.

The vanishing of the trades was little noted outside a circle of specialists. But the implications were big. The missing transactions reflected an effort by some of the largest U.S. banks — including Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup, Bank of America, and Morgan Stanley — to get around new regulations on derivatives enacted in the wake of the financial crisis, say current and former financial regulators.

~Snip~

Gensler and his staff tucked a 17-word insert into a 228-page amendment to the Dodd-Frank bill. The addition seemed to assure banks that the new derivatives rules wouldn’t apply to their overseas trading operations. Bachus backed off. But the insert was craftily worded to leave wiggle room. If those activities “have a direct and significant connection with activities in, or effect on, commerce of the United States,” then the rules would apply, Gensler’s addition read.

http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-swaps/


More about Gensler:


Hillary Clinton Is Grooming A Former Goldman Banker To Become America's Next Treasury Secretary

By Tyler Durden on 04/17/2015 13:53 -0400

For years on end, many wondered how it is possible that Gary Gensler allowed Wall Street firms to manipulate, rig, and otherwise abuse the US commodity market which he, as head of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission from 2009 until 2014, was supposed to regulate.

Some, such as this website, suggested that what Gensler was doing was simply protecting his former colleagues from civil or criminal investigation and prosecution. After all Gensler is far better known for not only having worked at Goldman Sachs for 18 years most recently as co-head of finance, prior to joining the CFTC, but for becoming the youngest ever Goldman partner, at the tender age of 30.

~Snip~

Actually no. Gensler was put in so that he would be a figurehead and to neutralize and undo all real attempts at change, those undertaken by his predecessor Brooksley Born, who was truly a focused on fixing America's runaway derivatives doomsday machine until she was shut down by the "committee to save the world" of Summers, Rubin and Greenspan.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-17/hillary-clinton-grooming-former-goldman-banker-become-americas-next-treasury-secreta


If I have to vote against the GOP Hillary probably gets my vote. She doesn't deserve it. Her actions don't merit it. And she won't be good for the American people. She'll just suck less than the GOP. Period.

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If that is an indicator of how well someone is doing, boston bean Nov 2015 #1
Here's the difference vt_native Nov 2015 #3
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yeah, right that's why I laughed. LOL boston bean Nov 2015 #76
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She voted for the Iraq War. Are you going to laugh that off too? nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #154
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The chart in post #83 compares Hillary's and Bernie's records. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #163
Hillary has one thing Bernie does not have. zeemike Nov 2015 #99
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Well it was not intended to be disrespectful to women zeemike Nov 2015 #136
I'm a single-issue voter. OnyxCollie Nov 2015 #146
I don't think hellraiser69 Nov 2015 #169
Thanks for the post, pinebox. Lays it all out there. kath Nov 2015 #104
You're welcome and thanks! pinebox Nov 2015 #105
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'Cos Third-Way Progressive BernieBros hate women MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #159
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And look at the crowds... Yurovsky Nov 2015 #2
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Links showing Bernie-sized crowds for Paul? MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #15
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that's one third of Bernie's largest crowds.nt MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #37
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link to the 33k+ rally? Amimnoch Nov 2015 #40
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likn? Amimnoch Nov 2015 #64
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Funny, your great link shows 11K. Amimnoch Nov 2015 #68
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16,161 ColesCountyDem Nov 2015 #75
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Congrats, you caught me. I didn't read the whole thing. Amimnoch Nov 2015 #85
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The 33, 000 crowd was in my home state in the city of Boston. Ned_Devine Nov 2015 #128
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Change I can't believe in workinclasszero Nov 2015 #62
He also did extremely well in select internet based polls... Amimnoch Nov 2015 #18
Polled better than 30% on the average of all polls? MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #23
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Non sequitur and a straw man in one post. MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #6
Dodge. DanTex Nov 2015 #7
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Actually, yes, people can look at the polls and not think he's an underdog. They do it all the time. DanTex Nov 2015 #28
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Loved that movie! Amimnoch Nov 2015 #9
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They want far, but when it's to their advantage. Amimnoch Nov 2015 #43
how about we have a fair process restorefreedom Nov 2015 #42
Hillary sold out to Wall Street banks that wrecked our ecomomy, violated US laws repeatedly think Nov 2015 #27
Blah blah blah. DanTex Nov 2015 #31
blah blah blah. That's your reply? sad but not surprising.... think Nov 2015 #33
I get it, you don't like Hillary. DanTex Nov 2015 #60
I don't like big banks screwing people and becoming bigger in the process. And I don't trust Hillary think Nov 2015 #89
That's one good reason to vote for Democrats. DanTex Nov 2015 #94
I dont, but, Ill hold my nose and vote for her if she's the nominee litlbilly Nov 2015 #157
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you forgot SSS... magical thyme Nov 2015 #10
Bumper Stickers. 5 to 1 or better. tecelote Nov 2015 #13
Not just smearing Sanders, but adopting his policy positions at the same time. Scuba Nov 2015 #14
Just pretending to adopt hellraiser69 Nov 2015 #52
You are, of course, correct. Her rhetoric now will not match her policies if she's elected. Scuba Nov 2015 #54
also his supporters--but suddenly the stories of people terrorized by mobs of Berniebros MisterP Nov 2015 #117
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With your vote Sid she can win Canada too! bahrbearian Nov 2015 #59
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Bernisata are very sensitive about perceived criticism of Bernie. Nitram Nov 2015 #34
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Bernie Sanders, Gun Nut workinclasszero Nov 2015 #47
That doesnt mean he loves guns. DCBob Nov 2015 #49
OK workinclasszero Nov 2015 #53
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If I was a Bernie supporter, I'd forget about the polls too workinclasszero Nov 2015 #44
What Sanders' supporters bemoan as "the volume of insane poo..." Orrex Nov 2015 #48
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It is a lot easier to attack your opponent when they provide you with double the Snotcicles Nov 2015 #84
I don't understand Hillary supporters in their extreme... c-ville rook Nov 2015 #57
Wow, I said that same thing about bernie last week!!! misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #82
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Wasn't that the same argument made against Obama with foreign policy? pinebox Nov 2015 #106
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Dome of the same people throw baseless crap about other things Gore1FL Nov 2015 #93
it also serves as a good measure of their intellectual heft and integrity stupidicus Nov 2015 #97
Either that or the incredible paranoia of the Clinton team and supporters karynnj Nov 2015 #98
I don't think it's paranoia at all, just a cold calculated tactic Catherina Nov 2015 #114
As is the converse, Manny. MineralMan Nov 2015 #102
Thank you Manny. SoapBox Nov 2015 #111
Steady Steady Sanders Supporters Remember Gandhi? MasonDreams Nov 2015 #115
That metric works better in Hillary's favor, actually Tarc Nov 2015 #116
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they really do seem to expect that to win both the primary and the general MisterP Nov 2015 #138
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K&R azmom Nov 2015 #124
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It's gonna get a Lot Worse! Gotta fredamae Nov 2015 #129
wasnt "forget the polls" The rally cry for the romney campaign and why karl rove was so sure saturnsring Nov 2015 #132
too bad he's unelectable saturnsring Nov 2015 #134
explain how pinebox Nov 2015 #165
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Has Hillary been humbled_opinion Nov 2015 #145
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I'm ashamed of you for stating the obvious. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #150
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dlc/"centrist"/"new dem"/3rd way/neoliberal "Democrats" LWolf Nov 2015 #170
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