2016 Postmortem

daybranch

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25. are you a Trump supporter?

Reply to StrongBad (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 06:18 PM

Nov 2015

sound just like him. We cannot afford democracy and its blessings because it might attract immigrants? sounds ok to me.

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Bernie fans, do we really want to emulate Sweden? [View all] StrongBad Nov 2015 OP

I didn't realize we were expected to "emulate" anyone. arcane1 Nov 2015 #1

The entire point is that the ideas proposed don't work. StrongBad Nov 2015 #2

Nobody has proposed "bloating" anything either. arcane1 Nov 2015 #3

Of course no one has that intention. StrongBad Nov 2015 #4

Bernie never said that we should have a welfare state, jkbRN Nov 2015 #55

Sounds like we already have... eom Purveyor Nov 2015 #15

What is this source? I would like someone to check this source.. randys1 Nov 2015 #5

The United Nations StrongBad Nov 2015 #6

the link goes directly to the United Nations? randys1 Nov 2015 #7

It is a pdf of the actual UN report. StrongBad Nov 2015 #9

NOt gonna touch it, I am fussy that way, no idea who r rojas is randys1 Nov 2015 #10

From page 4 of the 'Actual UN report': Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #20

See page 45. StrongBad Nov 2015 #23

THis is a common tactic elsewhere, link to a source that is not credible which then links randys1 Nov 2015 #51

Perhaps you'd like to cite a few specific examples and statements from your source. think Nov 2015 #8

The allegation is that the United States has an open door immigration policy with no randys1 Nov 2015 #11

Yeah we're really tough on illegal immigration StrongBad Nov 2015 #26

You are so wrong I dont know where to begin randys1 Nov 2015 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author ieoeja Nov 2015 #28

I don't know about Sweden UglyGreed Nov 2015 #12

Are you worried about immigration and becoming a "welfare state"? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #13

I call Bullshit. There are 3 references to Sweden in the Appendices, none in the text. What's your leveymg Nov 2015 #14

It's a multi country study of HDI trends. StrongBad Nov 2015 #16

Give us a single quote to that effect, or go elsewhere. leveymg Nov 2015 #19

Page 45. See HDI projection chart. StrongBad Nov 2015 #21

It is not a study of trends....it is a hypothetical model. From page 6 of the text you link... Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #42

I suggest that you have no idea what you are looking at with that report. Sweden is mentioned Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #17

See page 45 for conclusions StrongBad Nov 2015 #24

Page 45, Figure 3 shows no such thing. Make your quote or point now. leveymg Nov 2015 #27

Decline of HDI by 2030. See the numbers next to Sweden. StrongBad Nov 2015 #30

I asked YOU to cite the language YOU use to support the conclusion you have made. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #29

The entire study described the methodology. StrongBad Nov 2015 #31

That's not what I have asked of you. You are stating conclusions the authors are not making at all Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #36

Do you know what HDI is? StrongBad Nov 2015 #39

And yet you have not done what I asked. Do you understand what 'not designed to be predictive' Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #45

I scrolled through that report and it does not seem to say what you claim Bjorn Against Nov 2015 #18

Page 45 StrongBad Nov 2015 #22

Page 45 does not say anything which you claimed in your OP Bjorn Against Nov 2015 #33

Look at the declining HDI projections. StrongBad Nov 2015 #34

Where does it say those declines will turn it to a third world nation? Bjorn Against Nov 2015 #38

A certain level of HDI designates it as such. StrongBad Nov 2015 #41

.906 is not third world status Bjorn Against Nov 2015 #46

are you a Trump supporter? daybranch Nov 2015 #25

I guess Sweden now joins Denmark under the bus. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #32

Complete bullshit. PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #35

That's because it's a scientific paper not sensational media. StrongBad Nov 2015 #37

.906 PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #40

Heh. Nice standards you got there. StrongBad Nov 2015 #43

Higher than usa in th 80s. PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #44

Yes, there is a lower HDI projection for Sweden, but NOWHERE IN THE REPORT DOES IT SAY . . . markpkessinger Nov 2015 #58

No, we want whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #47

I'd like us to emulate several aspects of several other countries who do particular things better. phleshdef Nov 2015 #48

Better luck tomorrow. frylock Nov 2015 #49

Meanwhile many parts of our nation are already there. Kalidurga Nov 2015 #52

Obviously we will go down our own path jfern Nov 2015 #53

Stop taking things out of context, jkbRN Nov 2015 #54

"Looking at what works" is not "emulating". "Emulating" is your word, not Sanders. eom NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #56

I like Sweden! Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #57