2016 Postmortem

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25. I can't defend them on everything else.

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 07:25 PM

Nov 2015

Just offering an explanation for the way they are. I agree that public opinion polls drive them. Which means, that people who are not reached by pollsters will be underrepresented and possibly disenfranchised when they opt for Republican coalitions.

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A New MSNBC Poll Shows Hillary Clinton Isn�t So Popular- And This Is Why (Video) [View all] Catherina Nov 2015 OP

She makes a lot of mistakes. Past a point, mistakes become lies. Hillary lies a lot, which explains leveymg Nov 2015 #1

She'll get smashed in the GE. Catherina Nov 2015 #3

+1 MissDeeds Nov 2015 #12

So instead you'll help elect someone who will tell you the truth onenote Nov 2015 #16

Canvassing is all about defending. If you can't sincerely defend, knocking doors is futile. leveymg Nov 2015 #24

+1. & Skeptical and downright hostile Dems aren't going to canvas for her Catherina Nov 2015 #32

Since Dem grassroots activists are left of center, and so many dislike her, that is a safe bet. leveymg Nov 2015 #34

Uh huh. We're now down to mock elections and user generated polls Godhumor Nov 2015 #2

I have been told that everytime you see a fly, someone votes for Sanders. Evergreen Emerald Nov 2015 #4

Yeah, agreed. HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #5

As a completely meta aside, you're one of my favorite Bernie posters Godhumor Nov 2015 #13

Thanks, Godhumor. And right back at you. HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #17

All polls have shown HRC has had strong negatives going back to 2008. This isn't an online poll leveymg Nov 2015 #35

Actually, the poll in the OP is an internet poll Godhumor Nov 2015 #37

All polls have consistently shown the same thing: HRC has 10-15% negatives among Independents, leveymg Nov 2015 #38

it's not even necessarily personal--it's because she's in America's political class MisterP Nov 2015 #6

+1000. Very well said. That's how I feel n/t Catherina Nov 2015 #7

what people are really mad at "the pols" over isn't that they're voting themselves raises MisterP Nov 2015 #11

A mistake, a faux pas, a mere bagatelle. Or, a calculated vote of political expediency? Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #8

Totally unfit. And what else you said n/t Catherina Nov 2015 #22

...^ that 840high Nov 2015 #27

"It was a mistake. Never you mind. Now I'll tell you what should be done next. By Iraqis." thereismore Nov 2015 #9

That really angered me. Catherina Nov 2015 #15

I will say this for the Clintons and their over-reliance on polling to determine their positions: Baitball Blogger Nov 2015 #10

The Clintons once ran a poll on where they should vacation. Catherina Nov 2015 #23

I can't defend them on everything else. Baitball Blogger Nov 2015 #25

MOAR INTERNETZ POLLS!!!!!! MohRokTah Nov 2015 #14

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What does RT.com think? randome Nov 2015 #18

The Bernie Clickety Clickers are at it again! DCBob Nov 2015 #19

Hmm. Create online poll. Have your buddies tell their buddies to tell their buddies... wyldwolf Nov 2015 #20

Is that the network where Morning Joe leads the ratings? JaneyVee Nov 2015 #21

It's the network where Rachel Maddow had over 2 million viewers pinebox Nov 2015 #28

It's a rather oddly worded poll TexasBushwhacker Nov 2015 #26

Bingo Sheepshank Nov 2015 #30

So she is not entitled to her opinion on marriage? That makes you unpopular because you believe kelliekat44 Nov 2015 #29

Would someone care to point out why this is significant? brooklynite Nov 2015 #31

That's not a very scientific poll. blue neen Nov 2015 #33

While ones that call only those with landlines are scientific... RiverLover Nov 2015 #36

At least with those that call landlines, blue neen Nov 2015 #39