2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: The thing I can't figure the fuck out [View all]BainsBane
(53,032 posts)according to fact checking sites.
Sanders's statements by ruling
Click on the ruling to see all of Sanders's statements for that ruling.
True6 (17%)(6)
Mostly True13 (37%)(13)
Half True6 (17%)(6)
Mostly False4 (11%)(4)
False6 (17%)(6)
Pants on Fire0
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/bernie-s/
Clinton's statements by ruling
Click on the ruling to see all of Clinton's statements for that ruling.
True39 (29%)(39)
Mostly True29 (22%)(29)
Half True26 (20%)(26)
Mostly False22 (17%)(22)
False15 (11%)(15)
Pants on Fire2 (2%)(2)
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/
(I personally think Politifact is far too generous toward him on some questions, like his statements on Super pacs, where they ignore the fact that one of the Super Pacs listed is run by a former Sanders staffer).
That point about Sanders not being more truthful has been made many times, yet people ignore it. The sad thing is how few actually care whether a statement is truthful or accurate. Too many have decided he is truthful because they choose what to believe based on what he says. The entire premise of your post is false, and I would suggest the far more salient question is why are so many so unconcerned with the truth and why are they so willing to suspend evidence and facts for deference to one man?
Perhaps you can start by telling us why he claimed in the debate that he didn't vote to grant immunity for gun corporations when in fact he did? That's a false statement easily refuted by the congressional record. In fact, following the debate, CNN ranked responses and Sanders had more false statements than anyone else. http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/13/politics/democratic-debate-fact-check/
I can predict the responses. The media, just like science, is in part of a corporate conspiracy all designed to stop a single man from assuming his rightful place as President of the United States. Just like PPP, YouGov, and every other polling outfit lies and the only people who aren't shills are those who think exactly like the chosen few who support Sanders.
This election will be over, and there will be many more to follow. Politicians will rise and fall, and people will be left with who they are at the end of it. In my view, no politician is worth sacrificing one's intellectual integrity. It isn't necessary to abandon concern for evidence and truth to support a politician. We need only examine their record, qualifications, and views and decide accordingly. The problem comes in when people expect perfection, and then end up having to ignore all kinds of things in order to meet that exalted standard, just as presenting another politician as evil requires distortion. The Manichean approach to politics is itself inherently dishonest.