2016 Postmortem

ieoeja

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93. So she had most of them, but not before HE had most of them?

Thu Nov 12, 2015, 05:03 PM

Nov 2015

No. Obama did not have most of them before she had most of them. She had most of them "before the primary". Just like she does now.

But hundreds of them "did" switch after Obama won the primary. Then Obama got most of them. After he won the primary, not before. She had them before.

And if Bernie wins the primary, hundreds of them will switch to him. They did it in 2008. They would do the same thing in 2016 "if" someone else wins.

This isn't even something you should be arguing. Even if we pretend this did not happen in 2008, it flies in the face of common sense. Of course, they will switch to the winner. For the same reason they did it in 2008. Ignoring the primary results would kill Democrats.

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Why is Clinton and her supporters trying to "Swift Boat" Bernie Sanders? [View all] ThePhilosopher04 Nov 2015 OP

a repeat of 08, which is very likely. nt restorefreedom Nov 2015 #1

Swift boat? Can you be more specific as to what you are talking about? randys1 Nov 2015 #2

Probably not - it's one of those "drive by" smears by Sanders supporters. George II Nov 2015 #75

You mean like "Bernie is a racist/sexist/unelectable" Jack Rabbit Nov 2015 #81

Who said he was a racist or sexist? George II Nov 2015 #102

!! Jack Rabbit Nov 2015 #112

Who called Sanders a racist or sexist? George II Nov 2015 #113

Put on you specticles and read it, Your Majesty Jack Rabbit Nov 2015 #118

Explain how "Bernie is unelectable" is "swiftboating"? brooklynite Nov 2015 #116

I didn't say it was "swifboating" Jack Rabbit Nov 2015 #129

more like that photo of him isn't him smear PatrynXX Nov 2015 #97

I like a spirited discussion of the issues, but much of this is uncalled for. olegramps Nov 2015 #106

This place is rapidly going from a political discussion forum. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #3

The OP describes what Hillary supporters are doing today AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #58

I'm sorry I'm not sure if you are being serious. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #61

Republicans tried to claim Kerry wasn't there on the swift boats AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #62

Shame checked kind sir. Wonderful day and all. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #64

The OP states: George II Nov 2015 #110

Don't take my word for it... AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #133

No, it's just a smear based on no particulars. n/t pnwmom Nov 2015 #85

With no specifics. Typical. George II Nov 2015 #108

They are desperate UglyGreed Nov 2015 #4

why would someone with a 92% chance of winning make their supporters "desperate"? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #7

I'm sure that's the tune UglyGreed Nov 2015 #8

I am sure that we are only 90 days from the first round VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #9

. UglyGreed Nov 2015 #12

Bernie has a 7% chance VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #13

Let's see what happens when UglyGreed Nov 2015 #16

bunk... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #20

you do, of course, realize DianeK Nov 2015 #34

Are you expecting hundreds of them to change their minds? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #39

relax.. DianeK Nov 2015 #43

Very relaxed thank you VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #47

They did in 2008. ieoeja Nov 2015 #76

Right....but not before HE had most of them VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #83

So she had most of them, but not before HE had most of them? ieoeja Nov 2015 #93

Many polls are not including UglyGreed Nov 2015 #40

7% is not a poll.....that is his odds based on ALL factors... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #42

Like I said UglyGreed Nov 2015 #53

She won't be "handed" the nomination.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #54

"ALL factors"? Care to link your source? I highly doubt they've covered all factors. Bubzer Nov 2015 #96

OH pulease VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #46

Golleeeee... Plucketeer Nov 2015 #82

So was Obama Coronated? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #84

This is what worries me Plucketeer Nov 2015 #95

bullshit.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #99

Well then Plucketeer Nov 2015 #107

Actual that is the President... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #109

You'll let us know when that happens? brooklynite Nov 2015 #33

I won't have to N/T UglyGreed Nov 2015 #41

You're more right then you know Godhumor Nov 2015 #45

that is not going to happen...that is what the 7% is predicting... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #103

Obama got more regular delegates than Clinton karynnj Nov 2015 #37

Oh really? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #50

As I said Obama had more delegates awarded by the contests karynnj Nov 2015 #74

He beat her with SuperDelegates... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #101

again, he had 100 more regular delegates karynnj Nov 2015 #114

She is intentionally trying making you forget the MI/FL fuckup of 2008 Rogue Democrat Nov 2015 #124

If Bernie wins the Primaries and the Super Delegates don't support him at wilsonbooks Nov 2015 #100

He has a 7% chance of winning that Primary VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #105

We will see about that. wilsonbooks Nov 2015 #115

Thanks fot proving my point! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #131

Polls and predictors are not voters. Rogue Democrat Nov 2015 #120

Opinions???? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #126

You're right he isn't Obama pinebox Nov 2015 #30

Good question AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #17

It DOES explain why HIS supporters are desperate... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #18

Projection AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #21

What the F am I projecting? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #23

It's the Swift Boating AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #26

who did I accuse? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #60

What is the hell are you talking about? upaloopa Nov 2015 #5

Clearly Sheepshank Nov 2015 #24

What the F are you talking about? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #6

Swift Boating AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #22

please provide proof that I am swiftboating please... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #29

Read the OP AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #32

Its not my OP VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #36

You jumped in all defensive about it AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #38

The OP contains a completely empty claim. Literally. There is nothing there. n/t pnwmom Nov 2015 #86

Then I will explain it for you AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #90

Thank you. Finally someone with a theory at least. Do you have a link for that? pnwmom Nov 2015 #92

Of course I do AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #94

This story should go away because it is just stupid. But it is't swift boating. pnwmom Nov 2015 #98

It is swiftboating AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #104

Aside from the fact that it is DESPICABLE they are trying to do it because they KNOW sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #10

Despicable for Hillary supporters but fine and dandy for Bernie supporters Sheepshank Nov 2015 #28

Please tell us all about it AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #35

cause that's how she rolls ibegurpard Nov 2015 #11

THIS 99Forever Nov 2015 #63

Ye gods, madamesilverspurs Nov 2015 #14

The OP reminds me of Ben Carson whining about "vetting." Renew Deal Nov 2015 #57

Catching a candidate in a lie or several lies is fair game. That is not what the OP refers to. merrily Nov 2015 #77

you should not believe some of the unhinged posts you see on DU drray23 Nov 2015 #15

Q-Afraid of?? A-Nothing boston bean Nov 2015 #19

A replay of 2008. jeff47 Nov 2015 #25

Maybe it IS her turn! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #31

Silly supposition Dem2 Nov 2015 #27

my my all these posts and not one bit of evidence about any swiftboating nt msongs Nov 2015 #44

Were you expecting any? Godhumor Nov 2015 #48

It's how they roll... IMO a preview of what we can expect from overlord hillary in the oval office bowens43 Nov 2015 #49

we're told Hillary is inevitable, we're told maybe an old man should rest azurnoir Nov 2015 #51

You better put some context into the OP, otherwise this is just flame bait still_one Nov 2015 #52

A wonderful hit and run OP with no context. Gee, it couldn't be just to stir up shit could it? still_one Nov 2015 #55

Evidence? I know that people are supposed to have nothing but unquestioning worship. Renew Deal Nov 2015 #56

Strange, I only see Sanders supporters posting Right-wing memes and sources. Metric System Nov 2015 #59

Give us an example of RW memes and sources please pinebox Nov 2015 #65

just today. it was hidden OKNancy Nov 2015 #67

Thanks! pinebox Nov 2015 #68

I just read the post and it should have been hidden. wilsonbooks Nov 2015 #111

Any post featuring a column by the Libertarian-endorser H.A. Goodman, pnwmom Nov 2015 #87

If that's the case pinebox Nov 2015 #89

Were you there looking over Goodman's shoulder when he or she voted? pnwmom Nov 2015 #91

See here's the deal pinebox Nov 2015 #123

Rand Paul rejects the main parts of Libertarianism pnwmom Nov 2015 #125

they are having deja vu 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #66

HOW? I've seen this accusation twice here this afternoon, totally devoid of "details" or facts. George II Nov 2015 #69

Between this and the sudden influx of 2015 is 2007 posts, it has been a pretty weird day on DU Godhumor Nov 2015 #72

They are afraid that he is likely to win the nomination and they can't think of any other way to try sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #70

I don't think a single HRC supporter on DU is afraid of Bernie Godhumor Nov 2015 #73

this is a very good flame bait post olddots Nov 2015 #71

Seems like old times. merrily Nov 2015 #78

What are they afraid of? Government of, by, and for the people. FiveGoodMen Nov 2015 #79

Another trifecta of post-debate focus groups favoring Bernie??? n/t winter is coming Nov 2015 #80

I didn't know Bernie served in the military. Tell me more. n/t pnwmom Nov 2015 #88

I think they see how weak her campaign is, how soft the support, and how strong the support for sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #117

A repeat of 2008 n/t Hepburn Nov 2015 #119

A repeat of what, exactly? Darb Nov 2015 #122

Look, we need to stick together Lunabell Nov 2015 #121

What are they afraid of? A primary decided on policy. Scuba Nov 2015 #127

basically you have people posting outrageous/inflammatory shit for yuks Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #128

"O K" DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #130

We're certainly not afraid of verb and subject agreement. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #132

As a Bernie supporter ... relayerbob Nov 2015 #134

HRC supporters are nervous Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #135

Just maybe Karl Rove is now working for the Hillary campaign? That was his way right? INdemo Nov 2015 #136

They're not afraid. Unknown Beatle Nov 2015 #137