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Sancho

(9,204 posts)
9. I agree entirely...
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:44 PM
Nov 2015

and I would add what social scientists call "triangulation" or "validity".

Hillary is on a record pace to gain endorsements from politicians, unions, and social leaders. In 2007, this was a split with Obama - and important endorsements by Kennedy and popular celebraties like Oprah helped put Obama ahead by the smallest margin. There's no similar competition here. That supports your prediction.

Hillary continues to get donations and support in the polls from the demographics that would have been predicted a couple years ago before the first survey call went out: women, immigrants, and minorities are her base. That validates the polls and prediction.

Hillary continues to raise money from both small individual donors and large hitters who support Democrats. She has appeal across the board, which also is important in a GE election (if you want to win).

The Super Delegates are committing to Hillary in droves. This is another predictor of a winner. Even if the general population was at a ball game and missed the last debate, you can be confident that the Super Delegates are watching the candidates, especially if they are not committed. Hillary is winning them over.

The only thing that could derail Hillary now is an unpredictable event that changed the dynamics. If anything, the current state of the world and economy play into Hillary's strenghts. As long as that is the focus for the next 6 months, the primary will be over before it begins.

I would say your prediction is a good one, and based on the empirical evidence.

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There was a second debate that people actually watched? Dawgs Nov 2015 #1
Nov 17, This is a POST-2nd debate poll: Clinton, 57, Sanders 26, O'M 2% riversedge Nov 2015 #16
You just proved my point. Dawgs Nov 2015 #26
More than 8 million watched upaloopa Nov 2015 #33
It is BECAUSE people watched that there was NO change. riversedge Nov 2015 #34
I'm sorry. You're right. Dawgs Nov 2015 #36
really, no married women, minorities, and millennials will vote for the Democratic nominee if it is still_one Nov 2015 #101
I think you're correct, but that means President Cruz or President Rubio for four years. Dawgs Nov 2015 #2
You forgot to add a disclaimer SecularMotion Nov 2015 #3
Nope. Although I should have added that Democrats will take huge losses in Congress as well. Dawgs Nov 2015 #7
Why add the disclaimer, when ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #78
Which will never happen. Dawgs Nov 2015 #116
Unless something radically changes, I guess we will see. Huh? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #117
My prediction is that Hillary will win the nomination and lose the GE. Dawgs Nov 2015 #121
My prediction ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #122
Not sure how Bernie would have changed this Dem2 Nov 2015 #20
all those down ballot socialists redstateblues Nov 2015 #76
It's not an unfair consideration n/t Dem2 Nov 2015 #81
She might lose, but so might anyone else Orangepeel Nov 2015 #22
Don't disagree. n/t Dawgs Nov 2015 #23
You were saying? brooklynite Nov 2015 #27
First presidential election, huh? n/t Dawgs Nov 2015 #30
Wait, wait, wait. Sanders is not polling very high among the Dems, but he is our only hope to win? Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #37
Obama wasn't either at this time 8 years ago, so that argument is stupid. Dawgs Nov 2015 #38
It is my first election. Thank you. Do you mind if I just follow you around? Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #41
I've seen the claim that treestar Nov 2015 #115
The flu doesn't poll too well either, but that doesn't mean it will ever be president... kjones Nov 2015 #71
Not sure how that relates to anything I said, but okay. n/t Dawgs Nov 2015 #72
Uh huh... kjones Nov 2015 #73
Yes Obama was. At this point 8 years ago he pulled even with Clinton in Iowa. Bernie is cratering.nt stevenleser Nov 2015 #98
That's true, and they had already held 14 debates by this time back in 2008. Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #106
President Rubio is a distinct possibility (God help us) red dog 1 Nov 2015 #45
I actually think that Cruz has a good shot to win the presidency. Dawgs Nov 2015 #46
Sure, because Sanders would be more electable in the ge. Beacool Nov 2015 #47
He would be. Dawgs Nov 2015 #64
I doubt it. Why is he polling so low? redstateblues Nov 2015 #77
Hillary in the GE will energize the Republicans TransitJohn Nov 2015 #97
Why was Obama polling so low exactly 8 years ago? Dawgs Nov 2015 #114
Yeah. TransitJohn Nov 2015 #96
Oh, so then you don't believe ANY of the Democratic candidates can win in the General election I still_one Nov 2015 #102
No, I don't believe that. n/t Dawgs Nov 2015 #113
Aw bullshit Cosmocat Nov 2015 #108
Today, yes. n/t Dawgs Nov 2015 #112
And brains will explode all over DU at that point... But I agree with your analysis. Hekate Nov 2015 #4
Heads. Heads will explode. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #17
"Clinton Sustains Huge Lead in Democratic Nomination Race" Gallup.com Goblinmonger Nov 2015 #5
^^^this ^^^ plus, if Clinton gets the nom we WILL lose in the general election peacebird Nov 2015 #18
Sorry but Sanders is no Obama. riversedge Nov 2015 #35
No kidding Hekate Nov 2015 #39
True, but Hillary is still Hillary. n/t Dawgs Nov 2015 #40
Yes, she is, and Hillary won the votes of almost 18M people. Beacool Nov 2015 #48
you've already declared support for Hillary bigtree Nov 2015 #6
So what? The prediction is based on MineralMan Nov 2015 #58
fact bigtree Nov 2015 #94
A "crystal clear" prediction followed by a disclaimer whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #8
A disclaimer that it was my opinion does not MineralMan Nov 2015 #59
I agree entirely... Sancho Nov 2015 #9
Looks that way. Who do you think will get the Republican nomination? yardwork Nov 2015 #10
Not that you asked me, but I think it will be Rubio or Kasich. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #13
I agree. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #19
NO ... Cosmocat Nov 2015 #109
If Republicans were smart they would pick Cruz. n/t Dawgs Nov 2015 #24
I think than when all is said and done that it'll probably be Rubio. Beacool Nov 2015 #50
I have had the feeling since late summer Cosmocat Nov 2015 #110
Hard to say. Republicans are unpredictable. MineralMan Nov 2015 #61
good luck with that azurnoir Nov 2015 #11
It has nothing to do with luck. MineralMan Nov 2015 #62
I still think Sanders is in it until the convention. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #12
Probably so. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #21
The only way is if he wins some states Renew Deal Nov 2015 #29
Much to my own disappointment, I have reached the same conlusion. procon Nov 2015 #14
As a Bernie supporter, I, too, have been bewildered by his narrow scope. Add the age issue to that libdem4life Nov 2015 #25
Soothing speaking prowess? tularetom Nov 2015 #42
No, she has the Speech Demeanor down pat. libdem4life Nov 2015 #43
Even is Sanders wins both Iowa and New Hampshire, he will not be the nominee Gothmog Nov 2015 #15
my prediction is a super Tuesday split. it will come KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #118
It is not a prediction. It is a snapshot of current opinion. Renew Deal Nov 2015 #28
It IS your personal opinion. Period. 99Forever Nov 2015 #31
As I made quite clear in the OP. MineralMan Nov 2015 #63
MM's opinion here is my opinion also. misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #32
You're exactly right Gman Nov 2015 #44
Who could've guessed that our "Ex" Freeper would support the more conservative candidate???? nt Romulox Nov 2015 #49
What does this even mean? NurseJackie Nov 2015 #52
I think it means that he disagrees with my prediction, MineralMan Nov 2015 #66
Even though I support Sanders, I alerted on it. Way, way below the belt, imo - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #119
I don't know, but I could have guessed that MineralMan Nov 2015 #57
Someone just emerging from a coma could've predicted you'd advocate for the Status Quo. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #60
And thanks for the additional kick, MineralMan Nov 2015 #65
Thanks for not disputing the plain facts. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #67
Bookmarked. bunnies Nov 2015 #51
I have it bookmarked, too. MineralMan Nov 2015 #53
Its not a prediction. Its a statement. bunnies Nov 2015 #55
Uh, my post had a lot more words in it than that MineralMan Nov 2015 #56
But that single sentence is the one you guys are constantly denying making. bunnies Nov 2015 #68
Two can play that game. You also "wrote" … NurseJackie Nov 2015 #70
Nice! Words are cool. You can purchase them together in MineralMan Nov 2015 #86
What 2007 Polling Indicates after Two Debates is Clear - A Wrong Prediction Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #54
Nope. At this point 8 years ago Obama had pulled even with Hillary in Iowa. Sanders is going in the stevenleser Nov 2015 #99
Really? Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #123
And I will have to be drunk as hell to vote for her! nt Logical Nov 2015 #69
Drink up, then. MineralMan Nov 2015 #87
I will always vote for the DEM over any GOPer. But maybe not happy about it. nt Logical Nov 2015 #95
Disclaimer: Zero fucks. frylock Nov 2015 #74
Thanks for the kick! MineralMan Nov 2015 #75
I'll kick it again since it seems really important to you. frylock Nov 2015 #80
It's not important at all. MineralMan Nov 2015 #82
I think you will find..... quickesst Nov 2015 #79
Bernie Sanders is not Barack Obama. MineralMan Nov 2015 #84
Tied with Bill. LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #103
K&R. I agree with you. eom lunamagica Nov 2015 #83
Thanks. Many people do. MineralMan Nov 2015 #85
It is a present evaluation, sadoldgirl Nov 2015 #88
Indeed it is. I stand by my prediction. MineralMan Nov 2015 #89
Also what is clear to me is that more debates would not help Bernie. DCBob Nov 2015 #90
People grow weary of debates. MineralMan Nov 2015 #91
By the way, I totally agree with your assessment of the situation. DCBob Nov 2015 #92
So it seems. MineralMan Nov 2015 #93
This is why the claim that 4-6 debates wasn't enough was silly. stevenleser Nov 2015 #100
It seems she has always been like that. LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #104
They always were part of the denial Cosmocat Nov 2015 #111
I concur ... Alfresco Nov 2015 #105
Yep Cosmocat Nov 2015 #107
Good analysis of current state of affairs. I predict you will KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #120
It will be over by Super Tuesday Gothmog Nov 2015 #124
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