2016 Postmortem

NCTraveler

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12. I still think Sanders is in it until the convention.

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Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:51 PM

Nov 2015

Numerous aspects of his campaign make it clear he is about getting the message out, not getting out the vote.

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What Polling Indicates after Two Debates is Clear - A Prediction [View all] MineralMan Nov 2015 OP

There was a second debate that people actually watched? Dawgs Nov 2015 #1

Nov 17, This is a POST-2nd debate poll: Clinton, 57, Sanders 26, O'M 2% riversedge Nov 2015 #16

You just proved my point. Dawgs Nov 2015 #26

More than 8 million watched upaloopa Nov 2015 #33

It is BECAUSE people watched that there was NO change. riversedge Nov 2015 #34

I'm sorry. You're right. Dawgs Nov 2015 #36

really, no married women, minorities, and millennials will vote for the Democratic nominee if it is still_one Nov 2015 #101

I think you're correct, but that means President Cruz or President Rubio for four years. Dawgs Nov 2015 #2

You forgot to add a disclaimer SecularMotion Nov 2015 #3

Nope. Although I should have added that Democrats will take huge losses in Congress as well. Dawgs Nov 2015 #7

Why add the disclaimer, when ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #78

Which will never happen. Dawgs Nov 2015 #116

Unless something radically changes, I guess we will see. Huh? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #117

My prediction is that Hillary will win the nomination and lose the GE. Dawgs Nov 2015 #121

My prediction ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #122

Not sure how Bernie would have changed this Dem2 Nov 2015 #20

all those down ballot socialists redstateblues Nov 2015 #76

It's not an unfair consideration n/t Dem2 Nov 2015 #81

She might lose, but so might anyone else Orangepeel Nov 2015 #22

Don't disagree. n/t Dawgs Nov 2015 #23

You were saying? brooklynite Nov 2015 #27

First presidential election, huh? n/t Dawgs Nov 2015 #30

Wait, wait, wait. Sanders is not polling very high among the Dems, but he is our only hope to win? Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #37

Obama wasn't either at this time 8 years ago, so that argument is stupid. Dawgs Nov 2015 #38

It is my first election. Thank you. Do you mind if I just follow you around? Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #41

I've seen the claim that treestar Nov 2015 #115

The flu doesn't poll too well either, but that doesn't mean it will ever be president... kjones Nov 2015 #71

Not sure how that relates to anything I said, but okay. n/t Dawgs Nov 2015 #72

Uh huh... kjones Nov 2015 #73

Yes Obama was. At this point 8 years ago he pulled even with Clinton in Iowa. Bernie is cratering.nt stevenleser Nov 2015 #98

That's true, and they had already held 14 debates by this time back in 2008. Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #106

President Rubio is a distinct possibility (God help us) red dog 1 Nov 2015 #45

I actually think that Cruz has a good shot to win the presidency. Dawgs Nov 2015 #46

Sure, because Sanders would be more electable in the ge. Beacool Nov 2015 #47

He would be. Dawgs Nov 2015 #64

I doubt it. Why is he polling so low? redstateblues Nov 2015 #77

Hillary in the GE will energize the Republicans TransitJohn Nov 2015 #97

Why was Obama polling so low exactly 8 years ago? Dawgs Nov 2015 #114

Yeah. TransitJohn Nov 2015 #96

Oh, so then you don't believe ANY of the Democratic candidates can win in the General election I still_one Nov 2015 #102

No, I don't believe that. n/t Dawgs Nov 2015 #113

Aw bullshit Cosmocat Nov 2015 #108

Today, yes. n/t Dawgs Nov 2015 #112

And brains will explode all over DU at that point... But I agree with your analysis. Hekate Nov 2015 #4

Heads. Heads will explode. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #17

"Clinton Sustains Huge Lead in Democratic Nomination Race" Gallup.com Goblinmonger Nov 2015 #5

^^^this ^^^ plus, if Clinton gets the nom we WILL lose in the general election peacebird Nov 2015 #18

Sorry but Sanders is no Obama. riversedge Nov 2015 #35

No kidding Hekate Nov 2015 #39

True, but Hillary is still Hillary. n/t Dawgs Nov 2015 #40

Yes, she is, and Hillary won the votes of almost 18M people. Beacool Nov 2015 #48

you've already declared support for Hillary bigtree Nov 2015 #6

So what? The prediction is based on MineralMan Nov 2015 #58

fact bigtree Nov 2015 #94

A "crystal clear" prediction followed by a disclaimer whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #8

A disclaimer that it was my opinion does not MineralMan Nov 2015 #59

I agree entirely... Sancho Nov 2015 #9

Looks that way. Who do you think will get the Republican nomination? yardwork Nov 2015 #10

Not that you asked me, but I think it will be Rubio or Kasich. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #13

I agree. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #19

NO ... Cosmocat Nov 2015 #109

If Republicans were smart they would pick Cruz. n/t Dawgs Nov 2015 #24

I think than when all is said and done that it'll probably be Rubio. Beacool Nov 2015 #50

I have had the feeling since late summer Cosmocat Nov 2015 #110

Hard to say. Republicans are unpredictable. MineralMan Nov 2015 #61

good luck with that azurnoir Nov 2015 #11

It has nothing to do with luck. MineralMan Nov 2015 #62

I still think Sanders is in it until the convention. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #12

Probably so. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #21

The only way is if he wins some states Renew Deal Nov 2015 #29

Much to my own disappointment, I have reached the same conlusion. procon Nov 2015 #14

As a Bernie supporter, I, too, have been bewildered by his narrow scope. Add the age issue to that libdem4life Nov 2015 #25

Soothing speaking prowess? tularetom Nov 2015 #42

No, she has the Speech Demeanor down pat. libdem4life Nov 2015 #43

Even is Sanders wins both Iowa and New Hampshire, he will not be the nominee Gothmog Nov 2015 #15

my prediction is a super Tuesday split. it will come KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #118

It is not a prediction. It is a snapshot of current opinion. Renew Deal Nov 2015 #28

It IS your personal opinion. Period. 99Forever Nov 2015 #31

As I made quite clear in the OP. MineralMan Nov 2015 #63

MM's opinion here is my opinion also. misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #32

You're exactly right Gman Nov 2015 #44

Who could've guessed that our "Ex" Freeper would support the more conservative candidate???? nt Romulox Nov 2015 #49

What does this even mean? NurseJackie Nov 2015 #52

I think it means that he disagrees with my prediction, MineralMan Nov 2015 #66

Even though I support Sanders, I alerted on it. Way, way below the belt, imo - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #119

I don't know, but I could have guessed that MineralMan Nov 2015 #57

Someone just emerging from a coma could've predicted you'd advocate for the Status Quo. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #60

And thanks for the additional kick, MineralMan Nov 2015 #65

Thanks for not disputing the plain facts. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #67

Bookmarked. bunnies Nov 2015 #51

I have it bookmarked, too. MineralMan Nov 2015 #53

Its not a prediction. Its a statement. bunnies Nov 2015 #55

Uh, my post had a lot more words in it than that MineralMan Nov 2015 #56

But that single sentence is the one you guys are constantly denying making. bunnies Nov 2015 #68

Two can play that game. You also "wrote" � NurseJackie Nov 2015 #70

Nice! Words are cool. You can purchase them together in MineralMan Nov 2015 #86

What 2007 Polling Indicates after Two Debates is Clear - A Wrong Prediction Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #54

Nope. At this point 8 years ago Obama had pulled even with Hillary in Iowa. Sanders is going in the stevenleser Nov 2015 #99

Really? Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #123

And I will have to be drunk as hell to vote for her! nt Logical Nov 2015 #69

Drink up, then. MineralMan Nov 2015 #87

I will always vote for the DEM over any GOPer. But maybe not happy about it. nt Logical Nov 2015 #95

Disclaimer: Zero fucks. frylock Nov 2015 #74

Thanks for the kick! MineralMan Nov 2015 #75

I'll kick it again since it seems really important to you. frylock Nov 2015 #80

It's not important at all. MineralMan Nov 2015 #82

I think you will find..... quickesst Nov 2015 #79

Bernie Sanders is not Barack Obama. MineralMan Nov 2015 #84

Tied with Bill. LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #103

K&R. I agree with you. eom lunamagica Nov 2015 #83

Thanks. Many people do. MineralMan Nov 2015 #85

It is a present evaluation, sadoldgirl Nov 2015 #88

Indeed it is. I stand by my prediction. MineralMan Nov 2015 #89

Also what is clear to me is that more debates would not help Bernie. DCBob Nov 2015 #90

People grow weary of debates. MineralMan Nov 2015 #91

By the way, I totally agree with your assessment of the situation. DCBob Nov 2015 #92

So it seems. MineralMan Nov 2015 #93

This is why the claim that 4-6 debates wasn't enough was silly. stevenleser Nov 2015 #100

It seems she has always been like that. LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #104

They always were part of the denial Cosmocat Nov 2015 #111

I concur ... Alfresco Nov 2015 #105

Yep Cosmocat Nov 2015 #107

Good analysis of current state of affairs. I predict you will KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #120

It will be over by Super Tuesday Gothmog Nov 2015 #124