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103. I suggest you do the same. nt

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Hey SEIU management: you are traitors, will be mocked in history books [View all] MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 OP

LOL. Getting hard to tell the satire apart from the non-satirical conspiracy theories. DanTex Nov 2015 #1

I suppose that technically a political campaign is a conspiracy. ieoeja Nov 2015 #70

"cough up your alleged polls" is a conspiracy theory. DanTex Nov 2015 #80

Polls? Care to link where they polled their membership base? JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #140

See esp., Reply 21: "Conspiracy Theory:" Foundations of a Weaponized Term merrily Nov 2015 #89

Bernie Sanders will be a footnote at best in history books Freddie Stubbs Nov 2015 #2

You are flailing and failing. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #19

The polls show that Bernie is failing Freddie Stubbs Nov 2015 #142

+ 10000 This ^ misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #21

revenge is best eaten cold. I can't wait. go bernie roguevalley Nov 2015 #59

Oh ya. Revenge! misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #72

DU is at this point on the Kubler Ross? JaneyVee Nov 2015 #3

You know unions are different from union members, right? merrily Nov 2015 #7

I am a proud union member, but my paychecks come from... JaneyVee Nov 2015 #11

Of course they do. Plutocrats have made it so few others have the money to pay anyone. merrily Nov 2015 #13

Yup. too bad no one was out shouting a message in 2014. misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #17

You Know "merrily" Speaking THIS Truth Here Is Only Going To ChiciB1 Nov 2015 #121

Crickets from one of the most persistent posters on the board, though. merrily Nov 2015 #129

What? Unions "thrive" on CAPITALISM & WALL STREET??????? bread_and_roses Nov 2015 #97

Anyone still wondering why union membership keeps declining in America? 99Forever Nov 2015 #4

Something like the reason such a small percentage of eligible voters make it to the polls election merrily Nov 2015 #8

It reminds me of the rationale the UFCW gave for endorsing Hillary Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #138

Maybe SEIU's goal was actually get a Union supporter elected? Not just "send a message"? brooklynite Nov 2015 #5

Considering Sanders polls better against the Republicans Kentonio Nov 2015 #6

So, "corporate" polls should be trusted when they support your candidate? brooklynite Nov 2015 #10

Nice try. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #20

Reality has Hillary bias. nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #40

Tell that to the Iraqis. That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #53

Amazing the number of folks here who want to blame Iraq on Hillary rather than George Bush. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #57

As you know, she voted to give chimpie a loaded gun That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #60

She voted to give war authorization under certain conditions. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #65

ROFL "certain conditions" bush said he wanted to be a wartime president. That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #71

We've all heard THAT excuse. bvar22 Nov 2015 #134

Hillary voted the way her constituents wanted her to vote. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #139

You seem proud of the admission that you try to follow a Weather Vane. bvar22 Nov 2015 #143

I did not make that "admission." Hillary is showing leadership. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #144

Hillary is an enabler. Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #108

So basically, you're going to ignore it and pretend it doesn't matter because... made up stuff? Kentonio Nov 2015 #47

Most GOOD unions support candidates that reject so-called "guest labor" programs... cascadiance Nov 2015 #15

Why are they backing Adlai Stevenson, v 2.0?? Don't they remember what KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #24

It's become clear they simply don't get it. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #27

Then they should have waited to endorse in the GE like AllyCat Nov 2015 #31

Solidarity. merrily Nov 2015 #9

Yes, true, but the union execs fight for their members using LOBBYISTS HereSince1628 Nov 2015 #12

And Bill Clinton has stated that lobbyists are very useful! merrily Nov 2015 #90

I was represented by unions twice in my life, both times in a minority group... HereSince1628 Nov 2015 #131

Union members are better than union leadership and unions are better than no unions, always, merrily Nov 2015 #132

I would think they sucked the air out of the Fight for $15. femmedem Nov 2015 #14

I hope you're wrong, too. What union would give up $3 an hour on behalf of its members--and that's merrily Nov 2015 #39

Lol misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #16

This thread will receive many recommendations. merrily Nov 2015 #18

Ahhh... MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #30

Thanks for the pic. merrily Nov 2015 #37

ZIPPY LIVES! gregcrawford Nov 2015 #68

Freaks! merrily Nov 2015 #85

Now THAT'S what I'm talkin' about! gregcrawford Nov 2015 #94

. merrily Nov 2015 #95

Oh. MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #135

Duh. Obviously. merrily Nov 2015 #136

K&R Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #22

K&R Scuba Nov 2015 #23

"After a rigorous, months-long member engagement process"... SidDithers Nov 2015 #25

In MARCH! I was asked in MARCH. Most AllyCat Nov 2015 #33

That explains A LOT! merrily Nov 2015 #41

"...�three national member polls from the fall of 2014 through the fall of 2015..." nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #45

Produce the polls aspirant Nov 2015 #48

I am not a member of SEIU. But I am a union member and I support Hillary. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #52

Simple, you are citing 3 national polls, produce them aspirant Nov 2015 #56

SEIU cited three polls in their statement. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #58

Produce the polls so we can correct all potential "misstatements" aspirant Nov 2015 #62

what an odd thing to demand from someone who has told you they don't have access to those polls. Sheepshank Nov 2015 #86

Citing numbers w/o transparency is real desperation aspirant Nov 2015 #98

what does that have to do with your attempt at labelling a DU'er?...ask the pollsters. nt Sheepshank Nov 2015 #100

Prove the internal numbers aspirant Nov 2015 #115

for the 3rd time...ask the Union for the numbers Sheepshank Nov 2015 #116

I'm not citing the numbers aspirant Nov 2015 #119

This message was self-deleted by its author SunSeeker Nov 2015 #54

"...from the fall of 2014 through the fall of 2015..." ieoeja Nov 2015 #75

The one(s) done in the "fall of 2015" would have included Sanders. nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #106

So, one out three at most. merrily Nov 2015 #111

No, one out of three at least. nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #112

At most. Bernie only started getting known around July, IF THEN. merrily Nov 2015 #113

The March vote was in addition to the three polls SEIU was talking about. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #125

Still: end of June. Why take a poll before anyone, including Hillary, announced? merrily Nov 2015 #126

To get a feel for who their members supported and their priorities. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #130

LOL! merrily Nov 2015 #133

Comprador leadership. They should be pulling KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #26

Yeah! They should have gone against the wishes of the VAST majority of their members. Amimnoch Nov 2015 #32

Where's the poll??? I'm from Missouri - you've KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #35

Who were polled in MARCH, when Hillary seemed likely to run unopposed. merrily Nov 2015 #42

"...�three national member polls from the fall of 2014 through the fall of 2015..." nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #46

A union member on this thread says otherwise. Replies 33 and 34. merrily Nov 2015 #49

One anonymous poster says s/he was polled in March. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #61

I take the member's word over the union's story. The member has no reason to dissemble. merrily Nov 2015 #64

That poster cannot know if other union members were polled in the fall of 2015. nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #67

Sure that member can. You cannot. merrily Nov 2015 #73

How can s/he know unless s/he did the polling? SunSeeker Nov 2015 #74

Think hard. merrily Nov 2015 #81

I suggest you do the same. nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #103

LOL! merrily Nov 2015 #107

Produce the polls. aspirant Nov 2015 #51

75 % of the union favored her dsc Nov 2015 #28

Quit trying to bring logic to an emotional argument. Amimnoch Nov 2015 #29

We were polled before HRC even declared. AllyCat Nov 2015 #34

Produce the internal poll aspirant Nov 2015 #36

so now the union is lying dsc Nov 2015 #38

"Trust us" is an unscientific calculation aspirant Nov 2015 #43

"wow you are at the correct website" Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #55

There IS an established pattern of union leaders defying the wishes of the rank and file Maedhros Nov 2015 #120

See Replies 33 and 34 and then tell us again how democracy is supposed to work, merrily Nov 2015 #44

Amazing the lack of reading comprehension here. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #50

Let's start with number One. Post a copy. DhhD Nov 2015 #63

I am not a member of SEIU. But I am a union member and I support Hillary. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #69

So, you're saying we should believe unions over you. ok merrily Nov 2015 #83

Nope, not saying that. Just pointing out union members do support Hillary. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #84

And many union members don't support Hillary. Autumn Nov 2015 #99

Not as many as support Hillary. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #102

I can say the same thing but it's rather childish to do so since many Union members support Bernie. Autumn Nov 2015 #104

Deception over $12/hour? HRC appeared to lend support of $15/hour. DhhD Nov 2015 #76

She tried to have it both ways? Say it ain't so, Joe. merrily Nov 2015 #109

Yeah, funny how actual members of SEIU say they weren't polled Matariki Nov 2015 #117

you do know how polls work, right? dsc Nov 2015 #122

I know how dissembling works Matariki Nov 2015 #123

And the Traffic Controller's Union supported Ronnie Raygun fasttense Nov 2015 #66

Wonder if they were denied three polls too? DhhD Nov 2015 #78

Who knows but Raygun crushed them. Fired them all and banned them for life from ever working fasttense Nov 2015 #82

So Union leaders trusted Saint Ronnie? no test yet DhhD Nov 2015 #87

Rarely has an OP looked like it really should contain the words "kulaks" and "counterrevolutionaries NuclearDem Nov 2015 #77

Now who is countering, We the People Plans? I can rule Bernie out. DhhD Nov 2015 #79

Yes, it feels like a glimpse of life under the Sanders politburo frazzled Nov 2015 #88

Socialism is not communism. Communism is a Red Army controlling the government. DhhD Nov 2015 #91

I was talking about the OP frazzled Nov 2015 #110

More anit-union shit on du. Nothing more than that here. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #92

It is very transparent to me. This union leaders offered no polling and did not support the DhhD Nov 2015 #93

You sum up the Clinton legacy perfectly! Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #105

Are you a Union member? I am, have been long enough to remember the Teamsters endorsing Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #146

Traitors are those who voted for union-busting Reagan. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #96

Thank you Bobbie Jo Nov 2015 #114

I don't usually reply to these fanfic OPs Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #118

Teamsters Union endorsed the Union busting Reagan, which is why this Union member takes Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #147

They can't force the membership to vote for someone they don't want! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #101

Their job is to poll the workers and endorse accordingly Tarc Nov 2015 #124

I think I read 75% of membership supported her. Most of other 25% will too within a few years. Hoyt Nov 2015 #127

K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #128

"Traitors" zappaman Nov 2015 #137

So why would union leadership sell out to the big money oligarchy? They want a cut of the rhett o rick Nov 2015 #141

K/R UglyGreed Nov 2015 #145