2016 Postmortem

Demeter

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13. Lying to oneself is the worst of bad habits

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:32 AM

Nov 2015

It's a defense mechanism against realizing one is being screwed unmercifully, for the amusement and profits of the screwer. It's done to maintain the status quo, when all parties would be better off making a change.

It's the Stockholm syndrome writ large.

And then, there are those who are paid well to do the spinning. Most of the payoffs are in promises: potential future favors, but the canny businesspeople get hard, cold cash money up front. This is what makes campaigns so expensive.

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Why do so many excuse Hillary's lies and 180 position changes?????? [View all] darkangel218 Nov 2015 OP

Why do so many believe the bullshit anti-Hillary spin? BootinUp Nov 2015 #1

That is the REAL question MaggieD Nov 2015 #27

Which ones? daleanime Nov 2015 #51

Lets use those excellent examples daleanime BootinUp Nov 2015 #57

They don't - they overwhelmingly don't trust her FreakinDJ Nov 2015 #2

HRC has 83% of support from Dems leftofcool Nov 2015 #3

You misplaced the decimal Android3.14 Nov 2015 #7

Bottom line....Bernie is done. leftofcool Nov 2015 #10

Why? daleanime Nov 2015 #53

Still haven't meet one in person.... daleanime Nov 2015 #52

If she gets the nom, and then loses the general election they will once again blame the progressives peacebird Nov 2015 #11

There you go FreakinDJ Nov 2015 #17

Here's their logic: They a priori assume she's the best person to beat any Repug, so anything she do reformist2 Nov 2015 #4

Yup nt artislife Nov 2015 #45

Sadly, politics is the art of TM99 Nov 2015 #5

Why are some on the fringe suffering from Hillary Derangement Syndrome? RBInMaine Nov 2015 #6

Sanders promotes policies that would make life less expensive for the 99%. TIME TO PANIC Nov 2015 #43

Her dishonesty is a major reason to vote for Sanders. Vattel Nov 2015 #8

It's her turn. Just ask the DNC. merrily Nov 2015 #9

bingo n/t SmittynMo Nov 2015 #12

Lying to oneself is the worst of bad habits Demeter Nov 2015 #13

Cult Of Personality Trumps Reason cantbeserious Nov 2015 #14

That sword cuts both ways. Orrex Nov 2015 #15

Please Elaborate cantbeserious Nov 2015 #16

You first Orrex Nov 2015 #21

You First With Your Unexplained Comment cantbeserious Nov 2015 #33

You first with yours Orrex Nov 2015 #34

Well played. n/t JTFrog Nov 2015 #36

So this is an example of winning for you? artislife Nov 2015 #46

Just as much as this is: JTFrog Nov 2015 #60

Does the Cult of Personality trump math, too? randome Nov 2015 #35

Your sigline Orrex Nov 2015 #39

2000 pounds of anything will leave you feeling down! randome Nov 2015 #44

If it were 2000 pounds of wool, you'd feel like you've been fleeced! Orrex Nov 2015 #48

2000 pounds of cell phones would leave you feeling disconnected. randome Nov 2015 #50

If they dropped 2000 pounds of Icy-Hot on you, you'd Feel The Bern! Orrex Nov 2015 #55

I do not understand why some people excuse Hillary's dishonesty Jarqui Nov 2015 #18

It's called "cognitive dissonance". Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #62

If Obama madokie Nov 2015 #19

It's a cult of personality. n/t Chan790 Nov 2015 #20

Much like supporting a quixotic campaign with no hope of victory, no? Orrex Nov 2015 #23

The diference is... Chan790 Nov 2015 #25

Clinton's supporters sound like the exact opposite of a personality cult, in fact. Orrex Nov 2015 #28

Pragmatism is always half-evil. Chan790 Nov 2015 #32

Empty platitudes like that will help secure the Whitehouse for Republicans. Orrex Nov 2015 #38

Electing Clinton will also help secure the White House for Republican values. Chan790 Nov 2015 #40

Well then, what is your solution? Orrex Nov 2015 #41

Nothing great comes from being timid. nt artislife Nov 2015 #47

Most just seem to have a great deal of bias against Bernie and need an avenue to express that Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #22

Sometimes in even direct methods. Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #63

How many is 'so many'? randome Nov 2015 #24

Another sad sour grapes post from the Sanders id squad GitRDun Nov 2015 #26

"Lies and deceit should have no place in politics." Orrex Nov 2015 #29

Because...because... Hepburn Nov 2015 #30

RW meme. JoePhilly Nov 2015 #31

I wish I was doing the drinking game..I would have a shot right now. artislife Nov 2015 #49

I guess the OP could bring up the ... JoePhilly Nov 2015 #56

And this kind of hyperbole should have no place on DU. JTFrog Nov 2015 #37

Popularity. Orsino Nov 2015 #42

Those people will tell you lie and deceit are *good politics* Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #54

I think some of them are angling for jobs, patronage, contracts. closeupready Nov 2015 #58

Yep. Particulary the *Hate Hillary 2008, Love Hillary 2016* folks Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #59

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