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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Salon: "America has never recovered from Ronald Reagan. That’s why Bernie Sanders is so important." [View all]Hortensis
(58,785 posts)56. Well, that is true. FDR was quintessential paternalistic
establishment. An old money ideology that never entirely lost that sense of noblesse oblige to the lower classes, even if it was often set aside in pursuit of wealth. Fortunately for us, he was also liberal by nature.
Unlike all conservatives and economic-type libertarians. This is a good illustration of the reality that their policies unchecked naturally lead to a economically very unequal socioeconomic structure that has always existed in "underdeveloped"-type regions. Almost all of these areas have small, extremely wealthy classes and enormous impoverished working classes:
Liberty does not mean all good things or the absence of all evils. It is true that to be free may mean freedom to starve, to make costly mistakes, or to run mortal risks. In the sense in which we use the term, the penniless vagabond who lives precariously by constant improvisation is indeed freer than the conscripted soldier with all his security and relative comfort.
And that's the nicest way that a few advantaged people collecting as much wealth as possible into their own possession can be put. Nothing new here.
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Salon: "America has never recovered from Ronald Reagan. That’s why Bernie Sanders is so important." [View all]
Attorney in Texas
Nov 2015
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FDR only put Steigall after the crash: Hillary is plan is stronger than steigall
lewebley3
Nov 2015
#66
Her plan? Oh, right her "plan". Are you interested in some water front in the Everglades? nm
rhett o rick
Nov 2015
#69
Clinton has praised Reagan. She has supported his actions to cut Social Security. nm
rhett o rick
Nov 2015
#61
If Hillary were for the rich: She wouldn't be a Dem: Nor worked in public ser
lewebley3
Nov 2015
#67
Have patience, she's working on it! Think how much higher her speaking fees will be if she is nom!
peacebird
Nov 2015
#68
FDR was a" rich folk": Hillary is heir to Dem party: She is a smart politician
lewebley3
Nov 2015
#76
That's a joke. New Democrats like Hillary took the name "New Democrats" precisely to disassociate
merrily
Nov 2015
#74
Um, She and her husband help start the New Democrats. Lapse of time has nothing to do with it.
merrily
Nov 2015
#77
Sorry the Dem party didn't start with the Clintons: Its was the same party old Party
lewebley3
Nov 2015
#79
Quite so: it is no coincidence that those who espouse radical corporatism
Betty Karlson
Nov 2015
#57
I thought that Democrats, voters I mean, had realized this. I still think they do, but they
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#4
Agree. We are incredibly fortunate to have an opportunity for a sea change in favor or
merrily
Nov 2015
#6
If they are WILLING to miss this opportunity, then they don't matter. Far more
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#7
Most Americans have spoken for themselves That is why Bernie is doing so well, he
sabrina 1
Nov 2015
#60
Clueless. Republicans were against big government as soon as FDR got the Supreme Court
merrily
Nov 2015
#15
You sure love to put words into other people's mouths. It's how you convince yourself
pnwmom
Nov 2015
#25
This is what you said. It had nothing to do with my Reply 2, which never claimed Reagan
merrily
Nov 2015
#33
I don't care if he blew up the Capitol building. He's been out of office 27 years.
merrily
Nov 2015
#71
K&R - "Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid were all once labeled socialist and aggressively opposed
99th_Monkey
Nov 2015
#3
Well, he chose his battles, and did not want to fight that one. That's why we're
PatrickforO
Nov 2015
#8
When he took office, the nation was just about belly up. Then there was Hitler.
merrily
Nov 2015
#12
Reagan must have been bestest buds with Louis Powell (the bell ringer of the racist reich).
Dont call me Shirley
Nov 2015
#19
Head-to-head polling shows Rubio crushing Clinton. I prefer Sanders' chances in November.
Attorney in Texas
Nov 2015
#38
Sanders is polling higher than any FDR style-Democrat in my lifetime.
Attorney in Texas
Nov 2015
#40