2016 Postmortem

JonLeibowitz

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Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:45 PM

Nov 2015

Well while a president may not be the decisive force, they do have the bully pulpit. And Obama used that to say a big fat NO to encryption weakening.

I have read the paper signed by most of the security experts and i doubt there will be serious disagreement amongst the experts there. The reason is simple. Multiple times a day i use encryption software which the NSA has no capability or hope of cracking into. I use open source software which i can assure you will not be modified to obey US laws on weakened encryption, since for one reason many developers do not live in the US. The terrorists have already won here, the only changes will make the general public lose on security. It's just a fact, unfortunately.

And maybe i wasn't clear and i apologize for the confusion, i was comparing Rand Paul and HRC, not Bernie and HRC. Rand Paul has introduced legislation to end indefinite detention.

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OK then. A Message to Hillary Supporters... [View all] sibelian Nov 2015 OP

Oh lookie! It's another anti-Hillary post. leftofcool Nov 2015 #1

More like 30 seconds still_one Nov 2015 #2

More like 30 seconds AlbertCat Nov 2015 #343

+1 Bubzer Nov 2015 #370

"About Clinton, not the people who disagree with you." ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #386

in the 90's who couldn't stop bashing her? AlbertCat Nov 2015 #392

You must have missed a federal prosecutor on a witch hunt ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #394

His name was Ken Starr. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #396

OMG abakan Nov 2015 #404

LOL ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #416

I was very serious. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #420

No, it is just another slur against Clinton supporters, and it really is tiresome. still_one Nov 2015 #419

Huddle at Hillary Cave NOW NOW NOW MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #3

You certainly do spend a lot of time worrying about that website. murielm99 Nov 2015 #16

First site I open up each morning MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #29

This thread was worth opening just to read this ornotna Nov 2015 #93

! bvf Nov 2015 #113

LMAO! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #153

+100 ..... LMAO -nt- 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #167

Android guffaws and slams his head on his desk Android3.14 Nov 2015 #191

Just make sure it's not one of those Bofu toads or frogs or whatever. Fuddnik Nov 2015 #229

What is the worst thing? Enthusiast Nov 2015 #289

I'm sure glad Enthusiast Nov 2015 #288

Interestingly, BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #293

the only site that I have ever been blocked from on DU is the BS group. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #345

Lol for the vid! BeanMusical Nov 2015 #353

I was banned instantly for my first post of the slightest criticism as well from HC group LiberalLovinLug Nov 2015 #385

Exchange "Brittany" for "Hillary" and it makes sense for DU AlbertCat Nov 2015 #391

Same thing happened to me too Plucketeer Nov 2015 #403

If a polite request to stop BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #423

The Only site I've been blockes is imthevicar Nov 2015 #356

They are allergic to facts. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #365

Did you got to the Hillary Group and ask them politely to stop dissing Sanders? sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #393

I was hardly telling BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #422

That is quite clever, Manny. And you certainly serve up more than your share of frogs. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #312

well, I feel left out. MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #319

Well, if it makes you feel any better . . . Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #382

ROFLMAO. Amimnoch Nov 2015 #334

Its no "obsession" angrychair Nov 2015 #55

The owner of that website called Bernie supporters "ignorant white trailer trash". beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #155

What are you referring to? potone Nov 2015 #279

It's just like the Conservative Cave but was created by Hillary supporters. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #280

It's backlash after the way Hillary supporters have been treated here. murielm99 Nov 2015 #223

The "you started it" meme. And the "You reap what you sow" is projection. rhett o rick Nov 2015 #232

That's the pathetic excuse they made up AFTER they got caught AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #251

Got caught? murielm99 Nov 2015 #252

They got caught with their pants down AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #253

I knew it was there. murielm99 Nov 2015 #254

Pure comedy gold AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #255

Every cloud has a silver lining though. What that site did was to destroy completely sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #398

Manny, manny, manny. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #62

Jeez, you people MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #66

Go figure. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #70

I think that comment will move you up to number one on the hit list. It was WillyT rhett o rick Nov 2015 #233

In response to another right-wing yowling about the evil of bernie and his supporters Scootaloo Nov 2015 #5

Yep, and they really like telling us what to do, too. George II Nov 2015 #8

some would rather tell you where to go. Fuddnik Nov 2015 #230

Goad away, dear. sibelian Nov 2015 #239

These pretzels are making me thirsty! BeanMusical Nov 2015 #246

omg...and here I already yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #267

Mmmm... Cookies with Sprinkles... BeanMusical Nov 2015 #270

They are the Vanilla kind with icing and sprinkles yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #271

Look delicious. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #273

yup...Lookie! yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #274

I voted: Did you save some for us? BeanMusical Nov 2015 #276

Always!! yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #277

Now my teeth hurt. blackspade Nov 2015 #355

they really like telling us what to do, too. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #347

The agenda to destroy Hillary and install a republican in the WH seems to have legs around here. randys1 Nov 2015 #87

It's a conspiracy! AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #262

yes, a nefarious plot known as "a primary" Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #284

The agenda to continue destroying the Democratic Party RiverLover Nov 2015 #285

If you have any respect for any of that, you dont go out of your way to randys1 Nov 2015 #321

My finances are fine, thank you. RiverLover Nov 2015 #322

Who are you talking about? randys1 Nov 2015 #325

Sure, I'll name names. RiverLover Nov 2015 #328

Not even the group? Then there is no way to respond. randys1 Nov 2015 #346

Its easier than thinking about what we're saying RiverLover Nov 2015 #348

Enthusiasm for Bernie Sanders is Real gordyfl Nov 2015 #351

Would be nice if she was the kind of candidate all progressive Democrats could get behind. Hissyspit Nov 2015 #104

Would be nice if we had a candidate all Democrats-period-could get behind. DFW Nov 2015 #134

+1 Totally agree. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #258

And one of the most patronizing posts I've ever seen SCantiGOP Nov 2015 #119

Your "concern" about Bernie's cause is duly noted. nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #170

Your story is confirmed SCantiGOP Nov 2015 #425

Awwwwwwwwww. Oh, dear. sibelian Nov 2015 #240

Republicans in disquise NotHardly Nov 2015 #124

+1 /nt RiverLover Nov 2015 #286

Welll, this is GD:P where people talk about the candidates... sibelian Nov 2015 #238

This post above is just another Hillary attack: Fact free post lewebley3 Nov 2015 #379

Yes, you are right these attacks on Hillary are very repetive and pointless lewebley3 Nov 2015 #384

Gamer ok thats new.... Historic NY Nov 2015 #4

You don't have to be a leader to run a government agency. jeff47 Nov 2015 #9

Well this is what her boss said about her....... Historic NY Nov 2015 #27

really don't care what one corporatist says about another. ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #52

More Bernie supporters should come right out and say how they feel about Obama. stevenleser Nov 2015 #89

I think Obama has been a fine president JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #96

my wife describes shoes as "fine" ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #101

He won't he's running away from Obama.......... Historic NY Nov 2015 #107

No shit. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #111

Tomorrow more of the same porridge. Historic NY Nov 2015 #117

Bernie has the right message for me right now, too. The Wielding Truth Nov 2015 #110

I think Bernie would have been a lot better president if had not had Rahm LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #123

I just dreamt that your title written in the future and got tangled in the wires. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #132

really, you think. ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #97

I said exactly what I think. Please proceed. nt stevenleser Nov 2015 #99

Why listen? SwampG8r Nov 2015 #308

Exactly please proceed .... Historic NY Nov 2015 #102

O.K. Chef Eric Nov 2015 #135

Nope, you can't lay that on me, that was discussed by two prior posters in the thread. stevenleser Nov 2015 #142

What a reasonable request. cui bono Nov 2015 #215

Yep. BootinUp Nov 2015 #207

More Hillary supporters should come right out and say how they FELT about Hillary cui bono Nov 2015 #214

+1000 BeanMusical Nov 2015 #259

I kind of like him and think that considering the political atmosphere of America these day Douglas Carpenter Nov 2015 #218

He was a far better choice than Hillary. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #260

I remember that SwampG8r Nov 2015 #311

Absolutely, and other things too: BeanMusical Nov 2015 #358

Then why are you here.............. Historic NY Nov 2015 #100

i like being here. ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #106

No but I suggest reading the TOS . Historic NY Nov 2015 #109

Thanks for your suggestion. ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #128

Right back at you... Historic NY Nov 2015 #136

Hah! good one ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #177

Yeah, lets run a Corporatist. artislife Nov 2015 #43

Bringing back the old "corporatist" meme redstateblues Nov 2015 #114

It is the truth, as I see it. nt artislife Nov 2015 #160

This reply only proves that you haven't been paying attention. Phlem Nov 2015 #188

You clearly have no idea what has happened within the Democratic Party. stillwaiting Nov 2015 #295

So in other words redstateblues Nov 2015 #421

You are hilarious FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #316

Her agency is bigger than the city the Vermont independent was the mayor of... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #10

The State Department also has several hundred offices and facilities around the world. George II Nov 2015 #413

Well then, based off that logic only CEO's Phlem Nov 2015 #13

That's about one third of the number of people who voted for Sanders for "Senator" George II Nov 2015 #56

"Senator", that's rich! beerandjesus Nov 2015 #409

Bush ran a government of far more employees MissDeeds Nov 2015 #69

So to you carly fiorina is a huge leader??? LOL, think before posting! nt Logical Nov 2015 #418

Thank you for your concern 72DejaVu Nov 2015 #6

Spot on. Makes no sense to get worked up when we know she's going to win. Laser102 Nov 2015 #46

And that's sure got them worked up! Rose Siding Nov 2015 #227

Another attack on Hillary Clinton and her supporters (SIGH) Redux DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #7

Thank you for making the case. murielm99 Nov 2015 #15

If someone doesn't like her it is his or her prerogative. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #21

Most of us Bernie supporters don't have an issue with her experience. Dustlawyer Nov 2015 #137

Problem is, Bernie is more qualified. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #47

I outlined my reasons for supporting Hillary Clinton. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #75

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #225

the Clintons are corporatists ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #61

I couldn't care less who you would vote for, really... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #79

So if Hillary is the (D) nominee you would instead vote for Trump? Carson? Hmmm. n/t Ineeda Nov 2015 #112

I have voted once since I've been of age to vote. ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #182

Pfft. So don't complain. Not voting guarantees your dissatisfaction. n/t Ineeda Nov 2015 #213

There is very little to choose between corporate dems and repubs. ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #236

But a there's HUGE difference between them Ineeda Nov 2015 #323

And a HUGE difference for every demographic that is not ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #335

And straight. Ineeda Nov 2015 #360

Yes ... And straight. My brain was certain my fingers typed that ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #361

Corporate dems need to dragged along all those issues you find important. ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #350

My points: Ineeda Nov 2015 #359

I don't think you understand where I am coming from. So I will try to explain. ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #390

I totally get "where you're coming from", I just don't agree with your fuck-'em-all attitude. Ineeda Nov 2015 #397

so vote for Sanders in the primary. Our problem is solved! ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #401

If you are not sure that your vote is properly tallied, then when you vote, you are legitimizing ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #402

Attack of the democratic party, I think. I think I will take it that way from now on randys1 Nov 2015 #88

Kicking demwing Nov 2015 #11

I like her position in the issues important to me, I have researched the candidates and she is on Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #12

. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #33

Show me a link to your claim. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #37

I am a registered democrat. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #39

Need the link. BTW, I am a lifelong Democrat and will be for the rest of my life. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #45

. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #48

Romney quote, as in President Romney. is that one your best? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #54

You asked for a quote or a link showing it was a RW talking point. Matters not if he was elected. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #58

I saw a quote, not a link. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #63

Well, in case you have amnesia from 2012 and aren't just being overly snarky JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #71

Actually I went to the links and did not see anything about increasing the income taxes on low wage Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #105

Link RichVRichV Nov 2015 #86

You complain about a small tax angrychair Nov 2015 #83

Everyone should have health insurance. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #72

Likewise everyone should shoulder the cost. I dont have a problem with everyone having health Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #130

I like animals, but it is amazint how much people spend on their vet bills and then how some of JDPriestly Nov 2015 #216

Not everyone can afford spending on their pets vet bills darkangel218 Nov 2015 #231

True. Or not have pets in the first place because they know they will not be able to pay the JDPriestly Nov 2015 #247

Many people have children, while poor. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #248

I was making the point that people will pay vets to take care of their pets but don't want JDPriestly Nov 2015 #249

Because "pets" are family to many!! darkangel218 Nov 2015 #250

I trust you on that. We had pets for years before we had children. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #263

Thats not citizens fault. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #264

I think we basically agree on this issue. Thanks. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #268

Some disagree tazkcmo Nov 2015 #141

A link to.. WHAT? pangaia Nov 2015 #80

Yeah, that is a weird RW talking point Ned_Devine Nov 2015 #84

This forum is full of right wing talking points lately. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #151

Totally agree with you. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #265

I try to avoid this forum if possible, the Reagan-speak and hatred is toxic. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #269

The admins are tolerating a lot of right-wing crap posted by HRC fans. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #272

There's not much they can do about it. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #275

There are a couple of rabid ones that were sent on vacation many times and keep coming back. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #278

It goes with the "I got mine" and "pull yourself up" type thinking. neverforget Nov 2015 #211

it's not the type of thing I would expect to read from someone here Ned_Devine Nov 2015 #220

Me too. I've seen lots of stuff posted here that I wouldn't neverforget Nov 2015 #222

It is one thing to be able bodied zalinda Nov 2015 #34

There are jobs, might be low wage jobs like the one I have but it is a job which pays wages, I do Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #38

"I do Need a cut in my wages" BeanMusical Nov 2015 #266

Title later line does not wrap, so it left off the word "not", thanks for edit Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #297

Do you know anyone who has refused a job. really? ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #64

Could you explain? Sorry I'm lost in this statement. The Wielding Truth Nov 2015 #121

Do you feel the same way about all services or just healthcare? whopis01 Nov 2015 #327

I thought you were a Scot. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #14

And your point is? Puglover Nov 2015 #77

What would be the importance of convincing him of anything in that case? Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #149

I agree Puglover Nov 2015 #186

That is the tone that will win ya friends. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #189

I have enough friends. Puglover Nov 2015 #190

Great! Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #192

LOL Puglover Nov 2015 #193

I am, yes. sibelian Nov 2015 #241

Then who is the "us" you are addressing in your question of voters? Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #337

You are already getting responses by those who scan OPs artislife Nov 2015 #17

The only problem I have with this post is: It is impossible to convince anyone to believe what Vincardog Nov 2015 #18

Huh?? NastyRiffraff Nov 2015 #23

The HRC supporter that calls me admitted she gets paid. Some posters seem incapable of rational Vincardog Nov 2015 #30

Maybe Sanders is starving his supporters or potential supporters. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #41

Lol! Whoooooooosh! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #19

Oh, they get the point, they just can't afford to address it. sibelian Nov 2015 #243

Another good point, I have friends who support Hillary. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #261

SCOTUS. msanthrope Nov 2015 #20

Are you pretending that Bernie would nominate inferior SCOTUS judges? Strawman argument Vincardog Nov 2015 #24

Bernie is never going to have the chance. Remember msanthrope Nov 2015 #26

SCOTUS would be a valid reason to say vote for Hillary in the general. RichVRichV Nov 2015 #95

Vote for whom you wish in the primary. Just remember msanthrope Nov 2015 #146

I love that logic there. RichVRichV Nov 2015 #163

Well, yeah. Who else do you plan on voting for in the general? nt msanthrope Nov 2015 #178

Bernie Sanders RichVRichV Nov 2015 #181

Do you plan on voting for Bernie if he isn't the nominee? nt msanthrope Nov 2015 #195

Do you plan on voting for Hillary if she isn't the nominee? RichVRichV Nov 2015 #206

No.. I will vote for and wear the creds of the Dem nominee. mt msanthrope Nov 2015 #208

Bernie welcomes your support. RichVRichV Nov 2015 #210

Bernie will not have my support. He will have my vote if he is the nominee. msanthrope Nov 2015 #212

Works for me. RichVRichV Nov 2015 #217

SCOTUS, schmotus tularetom Nov 2015 #31

I actually think Rand Paul would nominate better SCOTUS judges JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #36

That's full tilt crazy. Rand Paul is opposed to LGBT equality, opposed to women's right to Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #320

He would respect constitutionally protected Civil "Liberties" but not Civil "RIGHTS." n/t 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #336

I don't really see the difference. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #338

That's probably because you don't appear to be of the demographic ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #341

Perhaps we're just arguing semantics here, but JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #362

That is true ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #371

not a surprise to me Jon nt BootinUp Nov 2015 #374

Lol nice. I chuckled. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #380

I think one has to remember that a President BootinUp Nov 2015 #383

. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #399

Rand Paul is A-OK with businesses discriminating against minorities emulatorloo Nov 2015 #417

....x10+ 840high Nov 2015 #40

+ a zillion MissDeeds Nov 2015 #98

Now that smacks of desparation upaloopa Nov 2015 #377

OK then mcar Nov 2015 #22

I thought we were being treated like poker chips! MisterP Nov 2015 #25

But...Clinton is already winning, by quite a bit Tarc Nov 2015 #28

Says you. Why should anyone take a Bernie upaloopa Nov 2015 #32

Well, I don't think it's just ME that sees her that way, just cos I like Bernie. sibelian Nov 2015 #242

So Hillary wins and then what? jalan48 Nov 2015 #35

We'll get Trump. 840high Nov 2015 #42

I want a Democrat to win! moreland01 Nov 2015 #44

She will be a great leader who can bring the Democratic Party together bravenak Nov 2015 #49

She won't be bringing this lifelong Democrat anywhere, truebluegreen Nov 2015 #122

That is unfortunate. bravenak Nov 2015 #125

To use a favorite of her supporters... ybbor Nov 2015 #140

There will always be outliers. bravenak Nov 2015 #143

I like your gif ybbor Nov 2015 #148

I could make you one of me for the next time? bravenak Nov 2015 #154

Yeah I saw that one ybbor Nov 2015 #157

Who is being sprayed with poison? bravenak Nov 2015 #158

Really? ybbor Nov 2015 #161

I always do. bravenak Nov 2015 #164

Even in prison? ybbor Nov 2015 #166

How would I know? Never been to actual jail. bravenak Nov 2015 #169

Oh, metaphor? ybbor Nov 2015 #171

You're doing it too? Good on you! bravenak Nov 2015 #173

I just PMed you ybbor Nov 2015 #184

It's fine. bravenak Nov 2015 #196

If only you believed that SwampG8r Nov 2015 #197

The other side has shown their abilities are not up to my standard. bravenak Nov 2015 #198

OK if that's what you're going with SwampG8r Nov 2015 #199

Does it matter? My vote goes to Hillary. Twice. bravenak Nov 2015 #200

I find that hard to believe SwampG8r Nov 2015 #201

Too bad bravenak Nov 2015 #202

Just a conclusion made.from available facts SwampG8r Nov 2015 #203

. bravenak Nov 2015 #204

She will continue tearing the party apart. Her conservative wing of the party has nothing rhett o rick Nov 2015 #234

Ignoring bravenak Nov 2015 #235

You're ignoring yourself? BeanMusical Nov 2015 #281

Someone else on ignore replied. Hmmm. bravenak Nov 2015 #283

thats what I say even emailed / tweeted her at the front PatrynXX Nov 2015 #50

Waaaahhh. Stop looking at Hillary's record. merrily Nov 2015 #51

Haha.... y'all just can't seem to help yourself can you? quickesst Nov 2015 #53

Not winning fans??? angrychair Nov 2015 #174

First of all... quickesst Nov 2015 #194

Banal? ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #57

The seminal poster's argument is internally inconsistent... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #94

Agreed, taken in aggregate the posters theories are logically refuted ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #108

I really don't believe the intent of these threads is to foster discussion, any way... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #115

True enough, and I usually don't indulge ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #118

I don't like to be baited either but some times it is unavoidable. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #120

The irony... ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #139

Why is it so hard for some folks to believe other people can have different opinions? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #145

Detestable tactic??? angrychair Nov 2015 #175

WoW DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #183

You know as well as I angrychair Nov 2015 #187

I do ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #307

Indeed? And what do YOU think I think it means? sibelian Nov 2015 #244

Actually, that word describe's Hillary's candidacy PERFECTLY. beerandjesus Nov 2015 #411

LOL!!! Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #59

As soon as I started reading this I knew her supporters wouldn't get it Kalidurga Nov 2015 #60

HRC supporters owe nothing to those Sanders supporters... Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #65

"Hate hairballs"??? angrychair Nov 2015 #176

Oh you OWE nothing, for sure. sibelian Nov 2015 #245

Yep. That's how it works. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #298

The only thing they post about more often than polls are rants about Bernie's supporters. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #74

The went OTT months ago with "That's not good enough, Bernie" Kalidurga Nov 2015 #76

They created an entire website to troll DU and its members. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #78

I know right Kalidurga Nov 2015 #81

Quoting Hillary and citing her record is considered "anti-Hillary". beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #85

Haven't you read this thread? lunamagica Nov 2015 #82

Is it possible that Sanders supporters are as pedantic as their idol? Walk away Nov 2015 #67

Much, much more so. nt stevenleser Nov 2015 #90

For me, it's a toss up! Walk away Nov 2015 #116

Pedantic! Interesting word choice. Chef Eric Nov 2015 #221

Words have so many meanings. Flatter yourself if you must! Walk away Nov 2015 #305

Ah yes, the sixth definition at urban dictionary. Chef Eric Nov 2015 #309

Reccing, Bookmarking, Tweeting this post FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #68

You berniebots jehop61 Nov 2015 #73

I'm ready for the primaries to be over GitRDun Nov 2015 #91

Could it possibly be that a great many Democratic voters nationwide cheapdate Nov 2015 #92

"Bernie's supporters need to sell their candidates ideas and not..." They don't get it. stevenleser Nov 2015 #103

True, Steve. Never will. bravenak Nov 2015 #127

I'm worried that she won't fight against the money brokers who have co-opted our country. The Wielding Truth Nov 2015 #131

They would rather insult people than make converts. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #150

Either that or they don't understand the difference. Either way same difference. nt stevenleser Nov 2015 #152

LOL. Make your case. lovemydog Nov 2015 #126

Kick!! darkangel218 Nov 2015 #129

Yawn Chico Man Nov 2015 #133

. Capt. Obvious Nov 2015 #138

I don't give a tinkers damn what they think of me. Autumn Nov 2015 #144

It smells like victory hootinholler Nov 2015 #185

Here's some thing I'd like you to explain to me.... Moonwalk Nov 2015 #147

Back atcha. tazkcmo Nov 2015 #326

How very...predictable. Answer the question first.... Moonwalk Nov 2015 #375

excellent stupidicus Nov 2015 #156

First woman President ! Miigwech Nov 2015 #159

Jury results Capt. Obvious Nov 2015 #162

LMAO! Aw, someone has to go sit in the corner for 24 hours. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #165

"Make your case. She must bring something of value to people, not politics." George II Nov 2015 #168

She appeals to me like warm vomit. nolabels Nov 2015 #291

Good points. n/t zentrum Nov 2015 #172

Great mirror image post :-) CentralMass Nov 2015 #179

K&R 99Forever Nov 2015 #180

Good grief. "her clothing doesn't register with anyone" McCamy Taylor Nov 2015 #205

I missed that. bravenak Nov 2015 #209

Out of all the OP, thats the only thing you're going to refute? darkangel218 Nov 2015 #224

Sometimes one thing in these manifesto type rants sticks out as especially nutty. Rose Siding Nov 2015 #226

How about the poster chose not to attempt refuting the rest, because it is the truth?? darkangel218 Nov 2015 #228

Nope, pants suits, hair styles, all nutty crap. leftofcool Nov 2015 #290

nobody has to "make a case" for you. Lil Missy Nov 2015 #219

+ a million or so. eom BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #294

So much truth! Thanks for saying this. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #237

BANALITY! That's the REAL issue.,, PosterChild Nov 2015 #256

A Message To You, Rudy Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #257

Lol! BeanMusical Nov 2015 #282

What an incredible post! You have captured the essence. Enthusiast Nov 2015 #287

Frankly, I really don't care BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #292

Phrase "Front-runner" mean anything? Amimnoch Nov 2015 #296

You just dodged a bullet: Jamaal510 Nov 2015 #300

Oh I have my own special little group of followers on here. Amimnoch Nov 2015 #301

At this point, "fornt runner" means as much to me as "no votes have been cast" means to you. That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #302

You are spot on about the President Obama reference. Amimnoch Nov 2015 #304

At some point a stand must be taken, a horrible compromise that goes too far That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #306

At some point you gotta get in the game or you go 25 years BootinUp Nov 2015 #310

Yeah, Bill gave us NAFTA and Welfare reform That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #313

The only reason that your view doesn't lead the Democratic party BootinUp Nov 2015 #314

"NEVER fucking worked" ...oh my, such language. That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #317

Its so easy to take a political policy or candidate from many years prior BootinUp Nov 2015 #324

LBJ campaigned as a moderate??? If the Great Society was moderate we need more of it! That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #354

On LBJ 1964 BootinUp Nov 2015 #357

Odd editing That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #364

the link was there and it was there for you to go to BootinUp Nov 2015 #367

I was trying to be polite, it's very deceptive editing on your part. That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #368

Whether that is true or not it has no bearing on the discussion, of course BootinUp Nov 2015 #369

The only point deception makes is that facts don't support your conclusion. n/t That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #372

Just an interjection but IMHO. raouldukelives Nov 2015 #339

Feel free, no worries BootinUp Nov 2015 #342

Agreed, it is all about the money for some. Damn the consequences. nt raouldukelives Nov 2015 #424

Darling, your cherry-picked hyperbole is showing. Amimnoch Nov 2015 #333

Hmm... the White House accomplishments of Bill Clinton according to.... Bill Clinton's White House That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #349

Those facts only count in the real world, not on DU. n/t Lil Missy Nov 2015 #330

Is this in response to the "A message to Sanders supporters" post? That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #299

Feel better? Adrahil Nov 2015 #303

If the person running for the nomination was a White male, and had the exact same experience, Ikonoklast Nov 2015 #315

I think you, and many others, over-estimate supporters of either candidate. randome Nov 2015 #318

I think many of the anti Bernie posters are just antisemitic just as some of the anti Hillary Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #331

These brawling message are comedy gold liberal N proud Nov 2015 #332

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #340

Slam, Slam, Slam SmittynMo Nov 2015 #329

It's really very simple. I cannot vote for people who will continue to destroy onecaliberal Nov 2015 #344

Will Not Vote for Clinton gordyfl Nov 2015 #352

I guess the thought of repukes winning really doesn't bother you much then. BootinUp Nov 2015 #363

And you live in FL? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #387

Results of alert. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #389

I was the one who alerted ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #395

Where did he/she advocate a Republican win? Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #400

Anyone who does not vote for the Democratic nominee, whether it be Bernie or Clinton.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #415

Anyone who equates not voting for Hillary with advocating Republican rule Maedhros Nov 2015 #410

Good, ignore me ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #414

You are right Gore1FL Nov 2015 #366

Make up your minds, Bernistas. Nitram Nov 2015 #373

Kicketty Kickin' Faux pas Nov 2015 #376

Agreed 100% Fearless Nov 2015 #378

And she is by far the favorite to be the next president, so your arguments are wrong muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 #381

Again, not our job Tarc Nov 2015 #388

This message was self-deleted by its author IHateTheGOP Nov 2015 #405

And probably get us into a ground war with Russia in the Middle East. PERIOD. Maedhros Nov 2015 #412

This message was self-deleted by its author IHateTheGOP Nov 2015 #406

No way OhDemMom Nov 2015 #407

Excellent!! marym625 Nov 2015 #408

Nicely done. GoneOffShore Nov 2015 #426