2016 Postmortem

TSIAS

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172. Did you support Prop 8?

Thu Nov 26, 2015, 06:09 PM

Nov 2015

It is a fact that African Americans supported its passage by the largest margin of any group.

I don't think opposition to gay marriage is really the centrist position anymore.

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If Bernie Loses, Are POC Going to be Blamed? [View all] firebrand80 Nov 2015 OP

Sanders and only Sanders is to be blamed if he loses. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #1

Yes, that IS common sense thinking. But I fear that when he loses, PoC will be blamed BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #28

Of course they will. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #36

I hope we're proven wrong, NCT. I hope that after the primaries and Sanders loses BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #43

Hopefully, if Clinton wins, Chemisse Nov 2015 #102

Regardless, people will be too busy crediting POC Hortensis Nov 2015 #106

I would also venture that some of Sander's supporters also contributed negatively to his still_one Nov 2015 #97

That is a meme AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #158

Bernies message is attracting BootinUp Nov 2015 #2

Bull crap, but keep repeating it because repetition makes perfect--and true, right? merrily Nov 2015 #6

"... s/he said after 5 whole minutes. " NurseJackie Nov 2015 #18

Anxious to show you missed the point entirely? Good for you! merrily Nov 2015 #22

I'm equally amused at the posters who ... NurseJackie Nov 2015 #40

And, you also win the second non sequitur award of the thread. Congrats again! merrily Nov 2015 #42

Tee hee! NurseJackie Nov 2015 #51

Anytime you conservative Dems wish to discuss issues with us, please do pinebox Nov 2015 #29

+1. Posts by them discussing issues are *extremely* rare. kath Nov 2015 #89

Oh god randys1 Nov 2015 #101

Oh! I do! Let's go. eom Fawke Em Nov 2015 #139

i will say the same thing i said about gore restorefreedom Nov 2015 #3

No. People of all colors will have Wall St to blame. nt lumberjack_jeff Nov 2015 #4

IF Sanders loses, I will blame Third Way corporatists and a rigged system. merrily Nov 2015 #5

ditto ibegurpard Nov 2015 #11

don't forget the neo-liberals and the DINOs redstateblues Nov 2015 #81

They would be included in "Third Way corporatists." merrily Nov 2015 #85

Do you mean the primaries or the general? brush Nov 2015 #105

I saw the OP as about the primary. Therefore my reply was about the primary. merrily Nov 2015 #107

+1000 nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #164

The only blame games being played at DU TM99 Nov 2015 #7

Your post serves as a perfect demonstration BainsBane Nov 2015 #9

Lordy! bravenak Nov 2015 #10

BINGO. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #33

And your response serves as an illustration of every grudge progressives hold against centrists: Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #34

Insults, treating people as inferior isn't a winning campaign strategy BainsBane Nov 2015 #48

It's good to remind folks that Bernie is indeed a member of the "political elite." yardwork Nov 2015 #62

Yes, this Bernie is a fictional creation treestar Nov 2015 #156

Your post was in defense of a centrist Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #141

Then why do you persist in doing it? Scootaloo Nov 2015 #160

Wow. You guys are really tone deaf. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #140

^^^THAT.RIGHT.THERE!^^^ onecaliberal Nov 2015 #16

If you point can point to any post on DU using the term "retards" I will alert on it yardwork Nov 2015 #23

The tacit approval of Rahm Emmanuel TM99 Nov 2015 #44

I intensely dislike Rahm Emanuel and I don't remember anybody approving of his use of that term. yardwork Nov 2015 #60

Then you better dust up your searching skills. TM99 Nov 2015 #61

Oh so now it's my fault for not doing the work myself? yardwork Nov 2015 #63

I took the challenge back to 2010 on DU2 JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #146

Killed it as usual, JAG. Awesome post. But I guess our dear friend will have to reply later Number23 Nov 2015 #171

His being flagged is unfortunate JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #180

Preach!! nt artislife Nov 2015 #72

Bingo! kath Nov 2015 #91

Really? You've been called a "retard"? On DU? Rose Siding Nov 2015 #150

+1000 nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #165

Just waiting for you to be able to post. This is taking quite a while, imo. bravenak Nov 2015 #181

Heh. bravenak Nov 2015 #8

No. LWolf Nov 2015 #12

"I wish you wouldn't decide for yourself...." okasha Nov 2015 #170

Leaving out part of a quote can really twist the meaning, can't it? LWolf Nov 2015 #185

No, I can't read your mind. okasha Nov 2015 #189

No Kalidurga Nov 2015 #13

omg joke du jour Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #14

+1000!!!!! nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #32

A few did...nt artislife Nov 2015 #75

The blame falls to Sanders for running in the first place Freddie Stubbs Nov 2015 #15

Ouch. So true! nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #167

no. eom Hiraeth Nov 2015 #17

I don't think so. Chan790 Nov 2015 #19

Wow. Drank the whole pitcherful, didn't you? okasha Nov 2015 #59

Own the Kool-aid factory. :) n/t Chan790 Nov 2015 #64

Funny, how we hated posts like these artislife Nov 2015 #73

Childish and disgusting retort. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #169

. BootinUp Nov 2015 #66

Laugh. Chan790 Nov 2015 #67

Good for you. nt BootinUp Nov 2015 #68

No. Not by anyone who understands politics anyway. morningfog Nov 2015 #20

You proclaiming everyone has moderate jkbRN Nov 2015 #21

The Atlanta rally really has the Clinton camp frightened. That seems all too clear. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #24

Scared of Killer Mike? leftofcool Nov 2015 #27

as a heart attack. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #31

Nah. Civil Rights icon, Rep. John Lewis, is firmly for Hillary Clinton. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #45

He can't rap. nt Romulox Nov 2015 #46

Who says? I'm pretty sure, with that wonderful voice, he'd make a fine Rapper if he applied BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #50

You do understand that less than 50% of Black youth under the age of 30 know who Lewis is, right? Chan790 Nov 2015 #76

Doesn't that say more... MrWendel Nov 2015 #84

Time moves on. jeff47 Nov 2015 #95

So when... MrWendel Nov 2015 #108

Poor example Alittleliberal Nov 2015 #112

So anyone... MrWendel Nov 2015 #115

Easy there Alittleliberal Nov 2015 #116

While I agree... MrWendel Nov 2015 #117

It goes beyond a political prize though Alittleliberal Nov 2015 #120

No, "loses the visceral feeling" is not the same as "means nothing". jeff47 Nov 2015 #122

The same... MrWendel Nov 2015 #124

Mike never said that. He said that Bernie is the best candidate to carry on the legacy of MLK. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #127

Then Mike... MrWendel Nov 2015 #128

Again. He never said that Bernie is the next MLK. He said that Bernie is the best candidate to Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #130

Yeah, but almost 100% of blacks over the age of 50 know who MLK is. Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #153

Do you know how much respect Lewis lost when he sided with establishment at the Atlanta Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #135

+5 appalachiablue Nov 2015 #56

No, they won't.... daleanime Nov 2015 #25

Pop 8 was ugly. Voting for it was morally reprehensible. Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #26

Just for clarification...did you mean Proposition "Prop" 8 in California? BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #41

The same one: Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #90

Blamed by whom? MineralMan Nov 2015 #30

I take it, based on your sig Kelvin Mace Nov 2015 #35

If Clinton loses, will the Left get blamed...as usual? Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #37

Liberals Livluvgrow Nov 2015 #39

Of course they will. Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #94

Of course. Even when the turnout problem is moderates. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2015 #96

Only if far left liberals like you, who aren't really Democrats, .... CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #98

What are the qualifications for a "Real" Democrat? Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #100

A Democrat is any liberal who realizes that the worst thing that can happen to this country.... CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #121

+1 BootinUp Nov 2015 #123

first they will blame the left - then - now MARK MY WORD- if Secretary Clinton loses in the General Douglas Carpenter Nov 2015 #183

This seems like a shit stirring thread. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #38

Centrist = political cowardice Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #47

The week of Super Tuesday was the end artislife Nov 2015 #77

Hillary lost the black vote.... CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #99

Right on! I think that is true, too. Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #154

+10000 Douglas Carpenter Nov 2015 #184

Your fevered imagination is to blame for dragging this shit out today, bvar22 Nov 2015 #49

This OP seems like carefully laid bricks, doesn't it? nt artislife Nov 2015 #78

Must be glass bricks, bvar22 Nov 2015 #83

Perfect description artislife Nov 2015 #86

Yes Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #52

Yeah wben tbey were shouted down and tossed out by security oh wait SwampG8r Nov 2015 #125

Yep. Screamed at, demanded that they be tased. And to make a horrible situation even worse Number23 Nov 2015 #132

While you are remembering those times remember also aikoaiko Nov 2015 #155

I don't give a fat flying fart what the "concerns" and "issues" were Number23 Nov 2015 #161

Very few people denounced the movement or used slurs. aikoaiko Nov 2015 #162

Then you weren't looking. Which is of course SHOCKING. Really. SHOCKING Number23 Nov 2015 #163

I did see the denouncement of the full blown Soros-HRC-BLM conspiracy and.... aikoaiko Nov 2015 #174

I couldn't less if you saw them. Many here did, including many black DUers Number23 Nov 2015 #178

I think you're interested because you're posting on a discussion board. aikoaiko Nov 2015 #179

Of course. okasha Nov 2015 #53

+1 Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #57

I hear we have Stockholm Syndrome. /nt yardwork Nov 2015 #69

I am in the process of identifying a condition called Montpelier Syndrome. Squinch Nov 2015 #88

You nailed it, okasha. Number23 Nov 2015 #133

Well, just going by the tone The Polack MSgt Nov 2015 #54

Well played, Polack! Number23 Nov 2015 #134

Well played sir! n/t JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #147

No, of course not-not in my opinion fredamae Nov 2015 #55

probably 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #58

Oh, h*** no. rogerashton Nov 2015 #65

in my case they will be cheered for not falling for the bullying and name calling. nt Sheepshank Nov 2015 #70

This is just made up artislife Nov 2015 #71

Off by one letter 'A' PAC not PoC - nt. Juicy_Bellows Nov 2015 #74

Less than a month here artislife Nov 2015 #79

No clue ibegurpard Nov 2015 #80

They always do, pershaps they invited this one in...nt artislife Nov 2015 #82

The better question is who won't they blame MaggieD Nov 2015 #87

We are better than this... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #92

They will blame wall street banks for rigging the vote. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #93

If this gets me banned, there is little mmonk Nov 2015 #103

I will blame everyone who votes for Clinton. Vattel Nov 2015 #104

The Bernsters are already blaming them. DCBob Nov 2015 #109

I have no idea, but if they are then the blamers are pathetic people. Rex Nov 2015 #110

If Bernie loses, it may be the fault of his own supporters Empowerer Nov 2015 #111

Empowerer!! It's wonderful to see you again! Number23 Nov 2015 #136

It won't be because of annoying internet "supporters." joshcryer Nov 2015 #143

I doubt it. moobu2 Nov 2015 #113

I think that candidate that loses or wins gets to take credit for the results. Either way. Nt. seabeyond Nov 2015 #114

If Hillary loses, will liberals be blamed? Doctor_J Nov 2015 #118

Seriously? Fearless Nov 2015 #119

If Bernie loses it is his own fault GitRDun Nov 2015 #126

Do Hillary supporters always act like they own black and brown voters? Cheese Sandwich Nov 2015 #129

3rd Way = Republican Lite Stale Thinking Joe Turner Nov 2015 #131

Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #137

I won't. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #138

You mean like Hillary supporters did in 2008? Scootaloo Nov 2015 #142

Did they all vote for Obama in the GE after he beat Hillary in the primaries? Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #152

If anyone throws the primary for Hillary AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #144

Got to love this thread.. Kentonio Nov 2015 #145

You have it wrong. PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #148

Sanders has not really made a case that he is viable in general election Gothmog Nov 2015 #149

Has Hillary made a case that she is viable in the general? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #157

Acually, Obama did, which is why he was able to beat Hillary. JoePhilly Nov 2015 #188

Specifics please... AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #190

Can you provide me the links to one of those notadmblnd Nov 2015 #151

Why not? 99Forever Nov 2015 #159

If any Democratic group succeeds in sinking his campaign AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #166

I couldn't agree more. 99Forever Nov 2015 #168

Did you support Prop 8? TSIAS Nov 2015 #172

This is the Democratic Party. Bernie will be blamed and called a "loser." McCamy Taylor Nov 2015 #173

People do not help Hillary's campaign by pushing batshit crazy Donald Trump style memes like this Douglas Carpenter Nov 2015 #175

Some will blame POC RandySF Nov 2015 #176

I can't say what people will say, I will say Bernie won't blame anyone except for the same people orpupilofnature57 Nov 2015 #177

If Hillary loses the general election, "professional leftists" will be blamed jfern Nov 2015 #182

I would say the propaganda blamed POC, not the people. It was a good way to create division Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #186

Far left? jalan48 Nov 2015 #187