2016 Postmortem

joshcryer

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165. This is not an OP praising MLK.

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 02:14 AM

Nov 2015

It's speculating about what MLK would've done in a continuation of the regular race baiting articles that Sanders "supporters" can't let go ever since BLM.

We can argue all day and night about what MLK would've done or could've done, but I suspect that not much would've been different. He would've fought for a basic income but it would not have passed. He probably would've focused on redlining and breaking up redlining in various cities, that may have had an impact, since we still see redlining today. Probably would have fought against the drug war, but it would've been a losing battle with the rise of the neocons.

But I'm not going to fight with the OP about this, because I know what it is, just a cludge between Sanders "supporters" and most of the AA posters who see it that way as well. And if you disagree, why is it that so many AA posters here are pissed off?

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If MLK were alive today... [View all] hootinholler Nov 2015 OP

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Nov 2015 #1

I believe you are correct. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #2

K&R..... daleanime Nov 2015 #3

I believe you are right, I have also come to realize that Autumn Nov 2015 #4

That's odd Autumn hootinholler Nov 2015 #6

Oh hoot, that candidate is very uncertain. Autumn Nov 2015 #12

Huge +1! Enthusiast Nov 2015 #17

If MLK were alive today, he wouldn't approve of Sanders' constant criticism of our first Black BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #5

If MLK were alive yoday, bvar22 Nov 2015 #8

And now you think I should take you seriously, right? BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #72

Pardon your Freudian slip is showing . . . ucrdem Nov 2015 #81

No kidding. n/t JTFrog Nov 2015 #83

Here is my google search for this new Mike. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #182

;) sheshe2 Nov 2015 #113

Who the fuck is "Black Mike"? JTFrog Nov 2015 #85

Bravenak Black? I use that myself. This was funny. bravenak Nov 2015 #91

His name is KILLER Mike. bravenak Nov 2015 #90

Who is Black Mike? sheshe2 Nov 2015 #115

Who is "Black Mike?" nt msanthrope Nov 2015 #181

I think you might be correct, this is an attempt to convince POC Bernie Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #28

Nobody knows who Dr. King would support... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #31

Yes, what we can say is John Lewis and Andrew Young has endorsed Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #37

Better to let Dr. King rest in peace and not turn his legacy into a political football. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #39

I totally agree. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #43

I hope no Clinton supporters try to turn deceased civil rights icons into political footballs. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #46

I wonder what would been the reactions from people such as MLK Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #51

While I am circumspect when it comes to saying what dead folks think I think Dr. King would be happy DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #55

I am sure he would, he was a good speaker. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #56

He was a great orator , organizer, and strategist. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #57

Amen n/t JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #86

Quite the opposite hootinholler Nov 2015 #32

Wells are poisoned.......? sheshe2 Nov 2015 #116

Hillary has stabbed Obama in the back several times. AtomicKitten Nov 2015 #30

There's a HUGE difference between criticizing policy or trying to boot the first Black president BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author AtomicKitten Nov 2015 #75

Yes, there's a huge difference. Clinton's remarks were damaging to Obama & entirely inappropriate. AtomicKitten Nov 2015 #79

It's not inappropriate to criticize the sitting president. Were they damaging? Not to BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #191

Your whole post is speculation.... smiley Nov 2015 #38

Only if you don't understand what Rev. King was fighting for. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #69

With all due respect that's an ignorant comment smiley Nov 2015 #74

Only to those who don't understand Rev. King's fight. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #76

Im glad you admit the fallacy in your previous comment. smiley Nov 2015 #87

If there was a "fallacy" in my previous comment, you've failed to point it out. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #192

Maybe you should finish this conversation before you move to another. sheshe2 Nov 2015 #118

Which is another way of saying okasha Nov 2015 #139

Please. bravenak Nov 2015 #143

I don't think he'll take us up on it. okasha Nov 2015 #150

Oh god. bravenak Nov 2015 #152

I hope he ignores us. okasha Nov 2015 #160

You read my mind bravenak Nov 2015 #162

If MLK were alive he wouldn't endorse anyone and he would criticize Obama if he felt the need. Autumn Nov 2015 #88

It's been eight years, and clinton's supporters can still only see Obama's skin. Scootaloo Nov 2015 #136

I never claimed he'd endorse anyone. The OP has. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #193

No as a matter of fact the OP did not claim that MLK would endorse anyone. Autumn Nov 2015 #194

"The rest is all speculation." Including the OP's assertions, yes? BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #200

No. The OP was very clear, the OP in no way claimed that MLK would endorse Bernie Autumn Nov 2015 #206

Yes, the OP was very clear in his assertions that had MLK been alive today, BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #211

To be fair, you made the claim that the OP claimed that MLK would endorse Bernie were he alive. Autumn Nov 2015 #213

I never claimed he'd endorse anyone. The OP has. hootinholler Nov 2015 #195

You're right. You *strongly* implied he would. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #199

Thank you hootinholler Nov 2015 #203

Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #209

Results for your post #209 LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #212

Sorry you got a bogus hide, BlueCali.. Cha Nov 2015 #216

Thank you MuttLikeMe Nov 2015 #218

Black people have a long, well established record of having our culture, our history and heroes etc. Number23 Nov 2015 #7

"Camp Weathervane" is a common way for some Sanders supporters to describe Hillary Clinton. BlueCheese Nov 2015 #9

Thanks, BlueCheese. I suspected as much. Number23 Nov 2015 #10

+1 lovemydog Nov 2015 #14

That was incredibly well-written. Thank you. BlueCheese Nov 2015 #63

Hey, you're welcome BlueCheese! lovemydog Nov 2015 #114

+1,000,000 tishaLA Nov 2015 #19

You're not suggesting he would be supporting Ben Carlson. jalan48 Nov 2015 #21

Who is Ben Carlson? And if you are referring to Ben Carson Number23 Nov 2015 #23

Yes-I did butcher his name though it wasn't intentional. jalan48 Nov 2015 #24

He didn't endorse presidential candidates. lovemydog Nov 2015 #25

Thank you. jalan48 Nov 2015 #27

I thought the poster knowingly called him "Black Mike" DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #33

Oh, for god's sake, come on now. People misspell (or mistake/confuse) peoples' names all the time kath Nov 2015 #35

Yeah, all the while acting like the person whose named they've mispelled (and not by a little Number23 Nov 2015 #42

Wonderbread. Aweful shit. sheshe2 Nov 2015 #129

You know someone alerted on this. murielm99 Nov 2015 #169

You are kidding me. sheshe2 Nov 2015 #172

I guess the alerter doesn't know that this has been around for decades: George II Nov 2015 #196

Some of the unhealthy stuff I ate growing up! murielm99 Nov 2015 #197

My biggest memory of Wonder Bread was that it was a big sponsor of the Howdy Doody Show. I was... George II Nov 2015 #201

Holy cow! murielm99 Nov 2015 #204

Dont forget Queen Latifah / Sister Souljah... SidDithers Nov 2015 #77

Yea, that last one was pretty telling. JTFrog Nov 2015 #84

Someone alerted on this one too. What the hell? jury results: kath Nov 2015 #26

Wow-I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. jalan48 Nov 2015 #29

The context of your post wasn't real clear,but I have enough neurons to rub together to figure out kath Nov 2015 #34

Yes, that is what I was trying to get at. jalan48 Nov 2015 #36

Yes! kath Nov 2015 #41

I know he had started linking the racism in this country to the racist nature of the Vietnam War. jalan48 Nov 2015 #48

I also recall some quote (paraphrasing) about judging people by the content of their character, not kath Nov 2015 #54

Which was directed at WHITE PEOPLE who were the ones doing the judging Number23 Nov 2015 #58

What "more" could MLK have fought for than the rights of his children?? What are you people Number23 Nov 2015 #47

Wait... are you seriously suggesting that King's work was RACE NEUTRAL??!!!!!! Number23 Nov 2015 #45

"Perhaps people should listen instead of acting as though they know better" SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #40

I wasn't planning on being here today either. It has been even more clueless/revolting than usual Number23 Nov 2015 #49

I appreciate you. nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #52

And you know I feel the same about you. Number23 Nov 2015 #53

Really? That's the "lowest" form of race-baiting there is? cheapdate Nov 2015 #65

Considering that black posters are always the ones considered the "race baiters" on DU Number23 Nov 2015 #66

Can't speak for the others -- whoever they might be -- only for myself. cheapdate Nov 2015 #67

I can't think of anything lower than using a decades long dead icon to millions of disenfranchised Number23 Nov 2015 #70

How about using that legacy as a cudgel? hootinholler Nov 2015 #78

Excuse me???? SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #93

That's what I perceive some Bernie "supporters" as trying to do. hootinholler Nov 2015 #98

I'm out. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #103

That's exactly how I see it as well. Thank you for the thread and your replies - nt. Juicy_Bellows Nov 2015 #121

I understand exactly what you mean here. cheapdate Nov 2015 #105

Which is exactly what you've tried to do. And been called out by other Sanders supporters Number23 Nov 2015 #120

Calling out the use of a legacy as a cudgel is using a legacy as a cudgel? hootinholler Nov 2015 #188

I'm not reading your links, but let me guess... all (or most) of them point to bravenak?? Number23 Nov 2015 #202

I believe you have an odd conception of politics, cheapdate Nov 2015 #95

Good God. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #96

Yes, he's your father's legacy as well. cheapdate Nov 2015 #100

I can escape here. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #101

Suits me. cheapdate Nov 2015 #102

Thank goodness DU has no effect on real life. nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #107

I wouldn't agree with that statement -- no surprise there, eh? cheapdate Nov 2015 #110

Bernie will do just fine. No need for you to worry. Autumn Nov 2015 #180

I don't agree and I am worried. nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #184

Life is much to short to worry that much. Autumn Nov 2015 #185

Yes. He and his legacy belong to us all. Autumn Nov 2015 #111

"I reject your self-declared prerogative to serve as the self-appointed trustee of MLK's legacy." Number23 Nov 2015 #123

The only thing that's "odious" here cheapdate Nov 2015 #158

And you promised you had "nothing more to say to me" and yet here you are! Number23 Nov 2015 #175

yes there are black people including civil rights activists LIVING TODAY JI7 Nov 2015 #59

This whole thread is an obvious bait. I should have ignored it as I have done with soooooooooooooooo Number23 Nov 2015 #60

JI7, as a Sanders supporter, how do posts like this make you feel? Number23 Nov 2015 #61

it's just embarrassing and so far from what Sanders himself is JI7 Nov 2015 #64

Please explain how an OP praising MLK is embarrassing to a Sanders supporter? Autumn Nov 2015 #73

Well, it's been more than an hour, and no one has explained how it's embarrassing... kath Nov 2015 #80

I'm all for praising MLK. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #89

Who's bludgeoning whom? hootinholler Nov 2015 #92

Good God. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #94

Just make sure to visit AA every so often. bravenak Nov 2015 #109

I'd like to, but SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #117

Honestly, the entire internet is like this. bravenak Nov 2015 #119

Well, maybe I'll visit AA and a few others, SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #124

Put some stuff in your trashcan. bravenak Nov 2015 #125

I tried that when Nance got snarky with me. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #130

If you put gdp in your trash bravenak Nov 2015 #132

The Op is not trying to tie MLK to Bernie. Autumn Nov 2015 #97

Camp Weathervane?? SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #99

You might want to check out that site. As for an app, it's easy enough to log out and leave DU Autumn Nov 2015 #104

I'm going to. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #106

Just send an email to skinner hootinholler Nov 2015 #108

I don't know who Walt Star is. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #126

He demanded to be banned years ago. Walt Starr. bravenak Nov 2015 #128

Thanks. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #133

Only he can stop this bravenak Nov 2015 #135

Yes, he does. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #140

Thom Hartmann has a DU profile. bravenak Nov 2015 #141

If he knows, he should say something. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #144

He did once. He was ignored. bravenak Nov 2015 #145

This is new info to me. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #146

Tad Devine bravenak Nov 2015 #147

I would say "you're kidding," but I know you're not. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #148

I know how you feel. bravenak Nov 2015 #149

Probably the majority of people do that. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #151

I know you do. bravenak Nov 2015 #155

This stuff bothers me as well. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #163

Ha! bravenak Nov 2015 #164

This is not an OP praising MLK. joshcryer Nov 2015 #165

You must have missed this part written by the OP Autumn Nov 2015 #168

That's absolutely fine. joshcryer Nov 2015 #173

There are some posters that I will not read their OPs. I find it best Autumn Nov 2015 #176

"trotting KM out over and over as some sort of prize" SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #186

But this of course is hunky dory. Puglover Nov 2015 #189

Damn. Talk about "trotting out". Autumn Nov 2015 #190

At this point I do not consider them supporters. joshcryer Nov 2015 #156

I'm afraid you are right. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #167

Why do all these white people murielm99 Nov 2015 #198

+1 joshcryer Nov 2015 #153

Ugh Bobbie Jo Nov 2015 #11

Cringe is becoming my reaction. And I'm a Bernie supporter. nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #44

this is downright buoyant! MisterP Nov 2015 #13

Seems quite apparent to me. 99Forever Nov 2015 #15

Kicked and recommended! Exactly right, hootinholler! Enthusiast Nov 2015 #16

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #18

Someone actually alerted on your post.... ??? alittlelark Nov 2015 #20

I suspect someone was already logged in hootinholler Nov 2015 #50

I was Juror #6. OnyxCollie Nov 2015 #22

Because I agree with so much of what MLK said, Vattel Nov 2015 #62

How anyone is getting that you're saying MLK would endorse Bernie is beyond me. marym625 Nov 2015 #68

I'd try to put the MLK Jr. connection in the rear-view fast. ucrdem Nov 2015 #82

If MLK were alive today BainsBane Nov 2015 #112

THANK YOU! SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #122

Susan, I don't think these people are umm... ABLE to understand how much they need you Number23 Nov 2015 #134

Thanks. I hope you are right. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #137

Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #154

There is literally nothing that can be done. joshcryer Nov 2015 #170

I know all too well. And you see who they attack, don't you?? Number23 Nov 2015 #174

The thing is this is the bubble. joshcryer Nov 2015 #177

You're right and that's a great point. I made a similar comment about the "bubble" except I called Number23 Nov 2015 #178

I disagree BainsBane Nov 2015 #187

I hope that more Sanders folks see the anguish in josh's post #170 Number23 Nov 2015 #207

Well, if you recall BainsBane Nov 2015 #208

I have to disagree. joshcryer Nov 2015 #217

MLK would've destroyed Michael Moore... joshcryer Nov 2015 #166

Wow! A common sense thought! GitRDun Nov 2015 #210

This Bobbie Jo Nov 2015 #214

Awesome post! Excellent! scarletwoman Nov 2015 #215

Sadly MLK is not alive today. George II Nov 2015 #127

Oh, goodie. okasha Nov 2015 #131

... sheshe2 Nov 2015 #138

So damn funny. bravenak Nov 2015 #142

Sorry about your cold. okasha Nov 2015 #157

This damn cold goes and comes. bravenak Nov 2015 #159

If MLK were alive today this would have never been said: Kalidurga Nov 2015 #161

A-ha! Indeed. Juicy_Bellows Nov 2015 #171

+1 kath Nov 2015 #179

Who is this gentleman? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #183

If he were, he'd be able to tell us which candidate he preferred. MineralMan Nov 2015 #205